Restore BIDDING SENIORITY to original Date of Hire (first date of Initial Training, giving credit for time lost due to Involuntary Furloughs) for sUA Flight Attendants and BIDDING credit sCO & sCMI Flight Attendants for their Initial Training periods.
The Issue
Restore legacy United (sUA) Flight Attendants' bidding seniority to their original Date of Hire (the first date of Flight Attendant Initial Training, giving credit for time lost due to Involuntary Furloughs), and give legacy Continental (sCO) & legacy Continental Micronesia (sCMI) Flight Attendants credit for time spent in their Flight Attendant Initial Training period, for bidding seniority.
CHANGE the AFA Constitution & Bylaws:
- To REINSTATE (bidding) seniority which has previously been lost due to Involuntary Furloughs to sUA Flight Attendants; and,
- To give sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants (bidding) seniority, retroactive to the date of entering Flight Attendant Initial Training, provided that training was unbroken.
- To make ALL Jumpseat Boarding Priorities EQUAL to original Date of Hire.
In other words, provide equal treatment for all parties involved, to be FAIR and EQUITABLE to all.
When AFA was competing against IAM to win votes to be the union representing United Flight Attendants, one of their campaign promises was that Flight Attendants would be merged at their Date of Hire seniority.
Now that AFA has won the election, we are being told that will not be the case.
Furthermore, sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants were not an AFA-represented airline when the merger was announced. Therefore, the governing constitutional language is a Section X.J.
AFA leaders wrote language in the 1980's to rectify the integration of Pan Am Flight Attendants following the purchase of the Pacific Division. THIS, however, does not mean that they had the infallible foresight to predict each and every possible merger issue going forward.
AFA has always championed their participation and support of the language, stipulations and process outlined in the McCaskill Bond legislation: FAIR and EQUITABLE seniority integration of two merged carriers.
This concept alone, should supersede the specific language in the AFA Constitution with regard to the compilation of seniority data as defined in the AFA Constitution Section X.C.2.
It is clearly the "FAIR and EQUITABLE" thing to do for our current leadership to recognize and adjust the seniority of sUA Flight Attendants while on involuntary furlough as well as recognizing and adjusting the seniority of sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants for their time spent in training in order to equalize all groups.
The intent is NOT to return each and every individual on the seniority list to their original "Date of Hire", as there are many other reasons that Flight Attendants from each sub-group may have an adjusted seniority date (i.e. binding arbitration awards of previous mergers at both carriers and voluntary leaves of absences).
Furthermore, AFA and the company made a decision that violates the current sUA contract by not imposing loss of seniority during an involuntary furlough for those flight attendants who were furloughed as of April 1, 2014. While we are ecstatic for those flight attendants who did not lose neither bidding, nor pay, seniority, to be FAIR and EQUITABLE to ALL sUA Flight Attendants, ANYONE who has ever lost seniority due to Involuntary Furlough in the past should likewise be RESTORED to their ORIGINAL DATE OF HIRE!
Presently:
- sUA Flight Attendants start accruing seniority once they have been assigned a line of flying, retroactive to the date of entering Flight Attendant Initial Training, provided that training was unbroken.
- sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants start accruing seniority once they are placed on the Flight Attendant payroll, which occurs when they are assigned a line of flying. (Not retroactive to the date of entering Flight Attendant Initial Training).
- sUA Flight Attendants do not accrue (bidding or pay) seniority during an Involuntary Furlough.
- sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants do accrue (bidding) seniority during an Involuntary Furlough (but do not accrue pay seniority).
- sUA Flight Attendants who were most recently Involuntarily Furloughed were given amnesty from the CONTRACT regarding seniority accrual, and continued to accrue seniority.
- Additionally, sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants are potentially receiving an adjustment to their seniority, as per the letter from AFA dated March 3, 2015.
- sUA Flight Attendants travel on the Jumpseat at their DOH Bidding Seniority.
- sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants travel on the Jumpseat at their Company Seniority.
Furthermore, sCO HIRED Flight Attendants during part of the time in which SUA Flight Attendants were Involuntarily Furloughed. Not accruing bidding seniority was irrelevant as long as sUA remained a lone carrier. It becomes VERY RELEVANT, however, when merging with another carrier.
Additionally, if sUA HIRED Flight Attendants during sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants' Initial Training, even though the sUA Flight Attendant was JUNIOR to the sCMI or sCO Flight Attendant, they would be considered SENIOR to them, under the present order.
sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants who were hired during these Involuntary Furloughs, AFTER many sUA Flight Attendants, would now become senior to some sUA Flight Attendants.
Likewise, without sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants receiving credit for time spent in Flight Attendant Initial Training, sUA Flight Attendants, who were hired on the same dates, or any sUA Flight Attendant hired during the sCO or sCMI Flight Attendant Initial Training becomes "senior" to the sCO or sCMI Flight Attendant.
THEREFORE, we are asking (and EXPECTING) AFA to properly represent all Flight Attendants and restore (bidding) Seniority to sUA Flight Attendants to their ORIGINAL Date of Hire (the first date of Flight Attendant Initial Training ~ giving credit for time lost due to Involuntary Furloughs), and credit sCO & sCMI Flight with their Flight Attendant Initial Training periods (for bidding).
The precedent has been set in changing seniority with the most recent Involuntarily Furloughed sUA Flight Attendants.
AFA is also considering changing the seniority dates for the sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants as well, to adjust for their training dates. That is the FAIR and EQUITABLE thing to do, and we would expect the SAME FAIR and EQUITABLE treatment for ALL sides.
If AFA can adjust the seniority for one group, then to be FAIR and EQUITABLE, ALL groups should be adjusted, in like manner. The most simple and straightforward way to complete this task is to make everyone's bidding seniority (with the exception of any binding arbitration awards of previous mergers at all carriers and voluntary leaves of absences) their original Date of Hire - meaning, the FIRST day of entering Flight Attendant Initial Training, provided that training was unbroken.
AFA is purporting that this can not be changed because it is constitutional. AFA's Constitution and Bylaws very FIRST page shows the most recent amended date. Further, the second page gives a list of all the dates this document has been amended.
BOTTOM LINE, the AFA Constitution and Bylaws, CAN be changed, HAS been changed, and WILL be changed. The document itself supports that fact.
Therefore, it is in the best interest of ALL sUA, sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants to change the current document, to be FAIR and EQUITABLE to ALL Flight Attendants, and REINSTATE (bidding) seniority which has previously been lost due to Involuntary Furloughs to sUA Flight Attendants, and to give sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants (bidding) seniority, retroactive to the date of entering initial Flight Attendant Training, provided that training was unbroken.
FINALLY, if YOU SUPPORT this endeavor to be FAIR and EQUITABLE to ALL sUA sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants, and restore (bidding) Seniority to sUA Flight Attendants to their ORIGINAL Date of Hire (the first date of Flight Attendant Initial Training, receiving credit for time lost due to Involuntary Furloughs), and credit sCO & sCMI Flight with their Flight Attendant Initial Training periods (for bidding purposes)…
…we ask you to take FURTHER ACTION, and continue to spread the word by sharing this petition, contact your local union president, as well as any other person or entity you deem beneficial to our cause.
Thank you!
Agenda Item
To:
Association of Flight Attendants-CWA, AFL-CIO
Forty Third Board of Directors Meeting
April 28 – 30, 2015
Las Vegas, Nevada
__________________________________
SUBJECT:
Restore sUA Flight Attendants to their ORIGINAL Date of Hire Seniority (the first day of Flight Attendant Initial Training; crediting them for time loss due to all Involuntary Furloughs, to date) for Bidding Purposes, and credit sCO and sCMI Flight with their Flight Attendant Initial Training period for Bidding Purposes.
STATEMENT OF QUESTION:
Should ALL Flight Attendants receive their Date of Hire (DOH) Seniority for Bidding Purposes (those sUA Flight Attendants who lost Bidding Seniority due to Involuntary Furloughs, and sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants who did not receive Bidding Seniority during their Flight Attendant Initial Training period, provided that training was unbroken).
(DOH being determined as the first day of Flight Attendant Initial Training, provided that training was unbroken.)
SOURCE AND DATE SUBMITTED:
The Signer of this Petition, and
United Flight Attendants
March 25, 2015
BACKGROUND INFORMATION:
sCO AND sCMI flight attendants were not an AFA-represented airline when the merger was announced. Therefore, the governing constitutional language is a Section X.J.
Further, the AFA leaders who wrote language in the 1980's to rectify the integration of Pan Am flight attendants following the purchase of the Pacific Division did not have infallible foresight to be able to predict each and every possible merger issue going forward.
AFA has always championed their participation and support of the language, stipulations and process outlined in the McCaskill Bond legislation: FAIR and EQUITABLE seniority integration of two merged carriers. This concept alone, should supersede the specific language in the AFA Constitution with regard to the compilation of seniority data as defined in the AFA Constitution Section X.C.2.
It is clearly the “FAIR and EQUITABLE” thing to do for our current leadership to recognize and adjust the seniority of sUA flight attendants while on involuntary furlough as well as recognizing and adjusting the seniority of sCO and sCMI flight attendants for their time spent in training in order to equalize both groups.
The intent is NOT to return each and every individual on the seniority list to their original 'date of hire' as there are many other reasons that flight attendants from each sub-group may have an adjusted seniority date (i.e. binding arbitration awards of previous mergers at both carriers and voluntary leaves of absences).
sUA flight attendants start accruing seniority once they have been assigned a line of flying, retroactive to the date of entering initial Flight Attendant training, provided that training was unbroken.
sCO and sCMI flight attendants start accruing seniority once they are placed on the flight attendant payroll, which occurs when they are assigned a line of flying. (Not retroactive to the date of entering initial Flight Attendant training).
sUA flight attendants do not accrue (bidding or pay) seniority during an Involuntary Furlough.
sCO and sCMI flight attendants do accrue (bidding) seniority during an Involuntary Furlough (but do not accrue pay seniority).
sUA flight attendants who were most recently Involuntarily Furloughed were given amnesty from our CONTRACT regarding seniority accrual, and continued to accrue seniority.
sCO and sCMI flight attendants are potentially receiving an adjustment to their seniority, as per the letter from AFA dated March 3, 2015.
Because of the inequities in seniority accrual at each subsidiary, with a merged seniority list, some Flight Attendants would become junior to Flight Attendants who they were actually senior to.
PROPOSED RESOLUTION:
WHEREAS, seniority is determined to be the date from which a Flight Attendant accrues competitive (bidding) seniority; and,
WHEREAS, the date from which a Flight Attendant accrues competitive (bidding) seniority is determined to be the date from which a Flight Attendant enters the first day of Flight Attendant Initial Training; and,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that sUA Flight Attendants will receive credit for lost (bidding) seniority time, due to any and all Involuntary Furloughs, to date, and restored to their original Date of Hire Seniority (the first day of Flight Attendant Initial Training); and,
THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants will receive (bidding) credit for time spent in Flight Attendant Initial Training, provided that training was unbroken.
THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that ALL Flight Attendants will travel on the Jumpseat at their company seniority, or ALL Flight Attendants will travel at the bidding seniority ~ whichever the majority chooses, but not some at one priority, and some at another priority.
Petition Closed
The Issue
Restore legacy United (sUA) Flight Attendants' bidding seniority to their original Date of Hire (the first date of Flight Attendant Initial Training, giving credit for time lost due to Involuntary Furloughs), and give legacy Continental (sCO) & legacy Continental Micronesia (sCMI) Flight Attendants credit for time spent in their Flight Attendant Initial Training period, for bidding seniority.
CHANGE the AFA Constitution & Bylaws:
- To REINSTATE (bidding) seniority which has previously been lost due to Involuntary Furloughs to sUA Flight Attendants; and,
- To give sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants (bidding) seniority, retroactive to the date of entering Flight Attendant Initial Training, provided that training was unbroken.
- To make ALL Jumpseat Boarding Priorities EQUAL to original Date of Hire.
In other words, provide equal treatment for all parties involved, to be FAIR and EQUITABLE to all.
When AFA was competing against IAM to win votes to be the union representing United Flight Attendants, one of their campaign promises was that Flight Attendants would be merged at their Date of Hire seniority.
Now that AFA has won the election, we are being told that will not be the case.
Furthermore, sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants were not an AFA-represented airline when the merger was announced. Therefore, the governing constitutional language is a Section X.J.
AFA leaders wrote language in the 1980's to rectify the integration of Pan Am Flight Attendants following the purchase of the Pacific Division. THIS, however, does not mean that they had the infallible foresight to predict each and every possible merger issue going forward.
AFA has always championed their participation and support of the language, stipulations and process outlined in the McCaskill Bond legislation: FAIR and EQUITABLE seniority integration of two merged carriers.
This concept alone, should supersede the specific language in the AFA Constitution with regard to the compilation of seniority data as defined in the AFA Constitution Section X.C.2.
It is clearly the "FAIR and EQUITABLE" thing to do for our current leadership to recognize and adjust the seniority of sUA Flight Attendants while on involuntary furlough as well as recognizing and adjusting the seniority of sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants for their time spent in training in order to equalize all groups.
The intent is NOT to return each and every individual on the seniority list to their original "Date of Hire", as there are many other reasons that Flight Attendants from each sub-group may have an adjusted seniority date (i.e. binding arbitration awards of previous mergers at both carriers and voluntary leaves of absences).
Furthermore, AFA and the company made a decision that violates the current sUA contract by not imposing loss of seniority during an involuntary furlough for those flight attendants who were furloughed as of April 1, 2014. While we are ecstatic for those flight attendants who did not lose neither bidding, nor pay, seniority, to be FAIR and EQUITABLE to ALL sUA Flight Attendants, ANYONE who has ever lost seniority due to Involuntary Furlough in the past should likewise be RESTORED to their ORIGINAL DATE OF HIRE!
Presently:
- sUA Flight Attendants start accruing seniority once they have been assigned a line of flying, retroactive to the date of entering Flight Attendant Initial Training, provided that training was unbroken.
- sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants start accruing seniority once they are placed on the Flight Attendant payroll, which occurs when they are assigned a line of flying. (Not retroactive to the date of entering Flight Attendant Initial Training).
- sUA Flight Attendants do not accrue (bidding or pay) seniority during an Involuntary Furlough.
- sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants do accrue (bidding) seniority during an Involuntary Furlough (but do not accrue pay seniority).
- sUA Flight Attendants who were most recently Involuntarily Furloughed were given amnesty from the CONTRACT regarding seniority accrual, and continued to accrue seniority.
- Additionally, sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants are potentially receiving an adjustment to their seniority, as per the letter from AFA dated March 3, 2015.
- sUA Flight Attendants travel on the Jumpseat at their DOH Bidding Seniority.
- sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants travel on the Jumpseat at their Company Seniority.
Furthermore, sCO HIRED Flight Attendants during part of the time in which SUA Flight Attendants were Involuntarily Furloughed. Not accruing bidding seniority was irrelevant as long as sUA remained a lone carrier. It becomes VERY RELEVANT, however, when merging with another carrier.
Additionally, if sUA HIRED Flight Attendants during sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants' Initial Training, even though the sUA Flight Attendant was JUNIOR to the sCMI or sCO Flight Attendant, they would be considered SENIOR to them, under the present order.
sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants who were hired during these Involuntary Furloughs, AFTER many sUA Flight Attendants, would now become senior to some sUA Flight Attendants.
Likewise, without sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants receiving credit for time spent in Flight Attendant Initial Training, sUA Flight Attendants, who were hired on the same dates, or any sUA Flight Attendant hired during the sCO or sCMI Flight Attendant Initial Training becomes "senior" to the sCO or sCMI Flight Attendant.
THEREFORE, we are asking (and EXPECTING) AFA to properly represent all Flight Attendants and restore (bidding) Seniority to sUA Flight Attendants to their ORIGINAL Date of Hire (the first date of Flight Attendant Initial Training ~ giving credit for time lost due to Involuntary Furloughs), and credit sCO & sCMI Flight with their Flight Attendant Initial Training periods (for bidding).
The precedent has been set in changing seniority with the most recent Involuntarily Furloughed sUA Flight Attendants.
AFA is also considering changing the seniority dates for the sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants as well, to adjust for their training dates. That is the FAIR and EQUITABLE thing to do, and we would expect the SAME FAIR and EQUITABLE treatment for ALL sides.
If AFA can adjust the seniority for one group, then to be FAIR and EQUITABLE, ALL groups should be adjusted, in like manner. The most simple and straightforward way to complete this task is to make everyone's bidding seniority (with the exception of any binding arbitration awards of previous mergers at all carriers and voluntary leaves of absences) their original Date of Hire - meaning, the FIRST day of entering Flight Attendant Initial Training, provided that training was unbroken.
AFA is purporting that this can not be changed because it is constitutional. AFA's Constitution and Bylaws very FIRST page shows the most recent amended date. Further, the second page gives a list of all the dates this document has been amended.
BOTTOM LINE, the AFA Constitution and Bylaws, CAN be changed, HAS been changed, and WILL be changed. The document itself supports that fact.
Therefore, it is in the best interest of ALL sUA, sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants to change the current document, to be FAIR and EQUITABLE to ALL Flight Attendants, and REINSTATE (bidding) seniority which has previously been lost due to Involuntary Furloughs to sUA Flight Attendants, and to give sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants (bidding) seniority, retroactive to the date of entering initial Flight Attendant Training, provided that training was unbroken.
FINALLY, if YOU SUPPORT this endeavor to be FAIR and EQUITABLE to ALL sUA sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants, and restore (bidding) Seniority to sUA Flight Attendants to their ORIGINAL Date of Hire (the first date of Flight Attendant Initial Training, receiving credit for time lost due to Involuntary Furloughs), and credit sCO & sCMI Flight with their Flight Attendant Initial Training periods (for bidding purposes)…
…we ask you to take FURTHER ACTION, and continue to spread the word by sharing this petition, contact your local union president, as well as any other person or entity you deem beneficial to our cause.
Thank you!
Agenda Item
To:
Association of Flight Attendants-CWA, AFL-CIO
Forty Third Board of Directors Meeting
April 28 – 30, 2015
Las Vegas, Nevada
__________________________________
SUBJECT:
Restore sUA Flight Attendants to their ORIGINAL Date of Hire Seniority (the first day of Flight Attendant Initial Training; crediting them for time loss due to all Involuntary Furloughs, to date) for Bidding Purposes, and credit sCO and sCMI Flight with their Flight Attendant Initial Training period for Bidding Purposes.
STATEMENT OF QUESTION:
Should ALL Flight Attendants receive their Date of Hire (DOH) Seniority for Bidding Purposes (those sUA Flight Attendants who lost Bidding Seniority due to Involuntary Furloughs, and sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants who did not receive Bidding Seniority during their Flight Attendant Initial Training period, provided that training was unbroken).
(DOH being determined as the first day of Flight Attendant Initial Training, provided that training was unbroken.)
SOURCE AND DATE SUBMITTED:
The Signer of this Petition, and
United Flight Attendants
March 25, 2015
BACKGROUND INFORMATION:
sCO AND sCMI flight attendants were not an AFA-represented airline when the merger was announced. Therefore, the governing constitutional language is a Section X.J.
Further, the AFA leaders who wrote language in the 1980's to rectify the integration of Pan Am flight attendants following the purchase of the Pacific Division did not have infallible foresight to be able to predict each and every possible merger issue going forward.
AFA has always championed their participation and support of the language, stipulations and process outlined in the McCaskill Bond legislation: FAIR and EQUITABLE seniority integration of two merged carriers. This concept alone, should supersede the specific language in the AFA Constitution with regard to the compilation of seniority data as defined in the AFA Constitution Section X.C.2.
It is clearly the “FAIR and EQUITABLE” thing to do for our current leadership to recognize and adjust the seniority of sUA flight attendants while on involuntary furlough as well as recognizing and adjusting the seniority of sCO and sCMI flight attendants for their time spent in training in order to equalize both groups.
The intent is NOT to return each and every individual on the seniority list to their original 'date of hire' as there are many other reasons that flight attendants from each sub-group may have an adjusted seniority date (i.e. binding arbitration awards of previous mergers at both carriers and voluntary leaves of absences).
sUA flight attendants start accruing seniority once they have been assigned a line of flying, retroactive to the date of entering initial Flight Attendant training, provided that training was unbroken.
sCO and sCMI flight attendants start accruing seniority once they are placed on the flight attendant payroll, which occurs when they are assigned a line of flying. (Not retroactive to the date of entering initial Flight Attendant training).
sUA flight attendants do not accrue (bidding or pay) seniority during an Involuntary Furlough.
sCO and sCMI flight attendants do accrue (bidding) seniority during an Involuntary Furlough (but do not accrue pay seniority).
sUA flight attendants who were most recently Involuntarily Furloughed were given amnesty from our CONTRACT regarding seniority accrual, and continued to accrue seniority.
sCO and sCMI flight attendants are potentially receiving an adjustment to their seniority, as per the letter from AFA dated March 3, 2015.
Because of the inequities in seniority accrual at each subsidiary, with a merged seniority list, some Flight Attendants would become junior to Flight Attendants who they were actually senior to.
PROPOSED RESOLUTION:
WHEREAS, seniority is determined to be the date from which a Flight Attendant accrues competitive (bidding) seniority; and,
WHEREAS, the date from which a Flight Attendant accrues competitive (bidding) seniority is determined to be the date from which a Flight Attendant enters the first day of Flight Attendant Initial Training; and,
THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED, that sUA Flight Attendants will receive credit for lost (bidding) seniority time, due to any and all Involuntary Furloughs, to date, and restored to their original Date of Hire Seniority (the first day of Flight Attendant Initial Training); and,
THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that sCO and sCMI Flight Attendants will receive (bidding) credit for time spent in Flight Attendant Initial Training, provided that training was unbroken.
THEREFORE BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that ALL Flight Attendants will travel on the Jumpseat at their company seniority, or ALL Flight Attendants will travel at the bidding seniority ~ whichever the majority chooses, but not some at one priority, and some at another priority.
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