Minnesota Senate and House Leaders: Protect Children From Dangerous Anti-Gay Conversion Therapy

The Issue

My name is Alec Fischer. Growing up as a gay male in Minnesota I have experienced many forms of discrimination due to my sexual orientation.  I was bullied horrifically in middle school for being perceived as gay, and like many people who experience bullying, the problem got so bad that I attempted suicide.

Thankfully, when I got to high school, I was fortunate enough to come out to peers and family members who loved and accepted me for who I was. But we know this is not the case for many other youth who identify as LGBT in our state and across the country.  That's why I want my state to take a stand for LGBT youth, and ban "ex-gay" conversion therapy.

Gay conversion therapy is a discredited practice in which youth are subjected to psychologically damaging "treatment" by psychologists and counselors who falsely claim they can "fix" the sexual orientation of children who identify as being LGBT. 

The American Psychiatric Association (APA) and every leading medical organization condemns conversion therapy. The APA claims it can lead to depression and suicidal thoughts among those who experience it.  Specific symptoms acquired from patients post-conversion therapy have included:

Depression, guilt, helplessness, hopelessness, shame, social withdrawal, suicidality, substance abuse, stress, disapointment, self-blame, loss of friends, and high risk sexual behaviors.

According to the CDC and the Trevor Project, lesbian, gay, and bisexual youth are 4 times more likely to attempt suicide than their straight peers. In a study conducted by San Francisco State University, researchers compared LGBT teens who were accepted by their families with LGBT teens who were rejected and met with hostility and anger by their families.  They found that teens who weren't accepted were 8 times more likely to attempt suicide than teens who were accepted by their families.  They also found that these teens were 6 times more likely to report high levels of depression, more than 3 times as likely to use illegal drugs, and were 3 times more likely to be at a high risk for HIV and other STDs.

Minnesota has gathered national attention due to Michele Bachmann's husband Marcus Bachmann. His counseling clinic "Bachmann & Associates" was exposed by national news outlets for offering gay conversion therapy as a method of "treatment" for LGBT citizens.

Currently, every state except for California and New Jersey allows conversion therapy to be performed on minors. Many states have recently introduced legislation to ban the harmful practice, including PA, FL, OH, and Washington DC.

Legislators in MN are already looking into addressing the problem of allowing conversion therapy as a "treatment option" for youth.

In order to successfully introduce legislation banning conversion therapy for minors in MN, public support and outreach towards MN Senators and Representatives is essential.  Together we can spread awareness and create a movement to end ex-gay therapy in MN.  Together we can show that we won't stand idly by and let our LGBT youth suffer from this unethical therapy.  With your help we can show our lawmakers that we don't want to allow psychiatrists within our state to fix something that isn't broken.

Please sign my petition asking lawmakers to support legislation banning this harmful practice and help us make Minnesota a safer place for all children.  

Thank you,

Alec Fischer

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The Issue

My name is Alec Fischer. Growing up as a gay male in Minnesota I have experienced many forms of discrimination due to my sexual orientation.  I was bullied horrifically in middle school for being perceived as gay, and like many people who experience bullying, the problem got so bad that I attempted suicide.

Thankfully, when I got to high school, I was fortunate enough to come out to peers and family members who loved and accepted me for who I was. But we know this is not the case for many other youth who identify as LGBT in our state and across the country.  That's why I want my state to take a stand for LGBT youth, and ban "ex-gay" conversion therapy.

Gay conversion therapy is a discredited practice in which youth are subjected to psychologically damaging "treatment" by psychologists and counselors who falsely claim they can "fix" the sexual orientation of children who identify as being LGBT. 

The American Psychiatric Association (APA) and every leading medical organization condemns conversion therapy. The APA claims it can lead to depression and suicidal thoughts among those who experience it.  Specific symptoms acquired from patients post-conversion therapy have included:

Depression, guilt, helplessness, hopelessness, shame, social withdrawal, suicidality, substance abuse, stress, disapointment, self-blame, loss of friends, and high risk sexual behaviors.

According to the CDC and the Trevor Project, lesbian, gay, and bisexual youth are 4 times more likely to attempt suicide than their straight peers. In a study conducted by San Francisco State University, researchers compared LGBT teens who were accepted by their families with LGBT teens who were rejected and met with hostility and anger by their families.  They found that teens who weren't accepted were 8 times more likely to attempt suicide than teens who were accepted by their families.  They also found that these teens were 6 times more likely to report high levels of depression, more than 3 times as likely to use illegal drugs, and were 3 times more likely to be at a high risk for HIV and other STDs.

Minnesota has gathered national attention due to Michele Bachmann's husband Marcus Bachmann. His counseling clinic "Bachmann & Associates" was exposed by national news outlets for offering gay conversion therapy as a method of "treatment" for LGBT citizens.

Currently, every state except for California and New Jersey allows conversion therapy to be performed on minors. Many states have recently introduced legislation to ban the harmful practice, including PA, FL, OH, and Washington DC.

Legislators in MN are already looking into addressing the problem of allowing conversion therapy as a "treatment option" for youth.

In order to successfully introduce legislation banning conversion therapy for minors in MN, public support and outreach towards MN Senators and Representatives is essential.  Together we can spread awareness and create a movement to end ex-gay therapy in MN.  Together we can show that we won't stand idly by and let our LGBT youth suffer from this unethical therapy.  With your help we can show our lawmakers that we don't want to allow psychiatrists within our state to fix something that isn't broken.

Please sign my petition asking lawmakers to support legislation banning this harmful practice and help us make Minnesota a safer place for all children.  

Thank you,

Alec Fischer

The Decision Makers

Former State House of Representatives
2 Members
1 Responded
Paul Thissen
Former State House of Representatives - Minnesota-61B
Thank you for your email in support of banning the use of “gay conversion” therapy. I appreciate you sharing your perspective, and wanted to just drop you a short note to let you know that I agree with you completely. As you may have heard, two federal courts recently weighed in on this issue. Earlier this month, U.S. District Court Judge Freda Wolfson upheld New Jersey’s ban on the use of such therapies for minors. Specifically, Judge Wolfson ruled that states do have the authority to prohibit mental health professionals from employing those types of “treatments.” That decision follows on the heals of a ruling in August by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals, which upheld a similar ban by the state of California. Enclosed are two news articles that discuss the courts’ decisions. I thought you might like to read them. I was pleased to see Judge Wolfson and the 9th Circuit reject the challenges to California’s and New Jersey’s statutes. I hope this assures you that I share your concern, and am supportive of efforts to address the issue here in Minnesota. Again, thank you for contacting me. Please stay in touch. I value your input and would welcome hearing from you anytime. Sincerely, Paul Thissen State Representative Enclosure (2) Judge dismisses lawsuit against N.J. gay-to-straight conversion therapy ban By Susan K. Livio/The Star-Ledger November 08, 2013 at 6:41 PM, updated November 11, 2013 at 11:44 AM TRENTON — A federal judge today dismissed a lawsuit challenging the legality of New Jersey's newly enacted ban on gay-to-straight conversion therapy for minors, saying the law does not violate anyone's freedom of speech or religion. Days after Gov. Chris Christie signed the law in August, the lawsuit was filed on behalf of Tara King, a therapist in Brick, Ronald Newman, a therapist in Linwood, the National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality, and the American Association for of Christian Counselors. They argued the law violated their responsibility to their clients who wanted the treatment. They also contend the terms "sexual orientation" and the phrase "sexual orientation change efforts" are too vague to be understood and enforced. In a separate lawsuit, a South Jersey 15-year-old boy and his parents claimed the law interferes with teenager's "right to self-determination and the parents’ fundamental right to direct the upbringing of their children." U.S. District Court Judge Freda Wolfson , who presides in Trenton, disagreed. "Having found that the statute only regulates conduct, and not speech in any constitutionally protected form, Plaintiffs’ arguments regarding the statute" being overly broad "are largely irrelevant," according to her decision. Nothing in the law "prevents licensed professionals from voicing their opinions on the appropriateness or efficacy of Sexual Orientation Change Efforts, either in public or private settings," according to Wolfson's opinion. The law prevents any licensed therapist, psychologist, social worker or counselor from using sexual orientation change efforts with children under age 18. Offenders jeopardize their licensed status for violating the law, which does not apply to clergy or anyone who is not licensed by the state. Supporters of the law cite position papers by the American Psychological Association and other professional organizations that question the efficacy of the treatment and criticize the practice as emotionally demoralizing and damaging. “The court’s decision today is a huge victory for New Jersey youth. This law will save lives by protecting young people them from these horrible and damaging practices,” said Troy Stevenson, Executive Director of Garden State Equality, the civil rights organization that fought to get the ban enacted. "Today a federal judge agreed that the abuse has to stop," according to a Garden State Equality's Facebook page posted at about 5:30 p.m. "We won summary judgment, and the opposition's case to overturn the ban was dismissed. Thank you to Assemblyman Tim Eustace for championing this legislation and to The State of New Jersey, and our attorney's at the National Center for Lesbian Rights, Gluck-Walrath, and Kirkland & Ellis, for making sure the ban stands." New Jersey is the second state in the nation to therapy that purports to change a child's sexual orientation from homosexual to heterosexual. California enacted the first ban, but Liberty Counsel, a national religious-based legal and public policy group, filed an injunction it before it took effect earlier this year. A judge later upheld the law. The plaintiffs' attorney could not be reached for comment. California gay conversion therapy ban upheld By Howard Mintz hmintz@mercurynews.com San Jose Mercury News Posted: 8/29/13 MercuryNews.com California's unprecedented ban on gay conversion therapy for minors is back on the books. In a decision that could spark a U.S. Supreme Court review, a federal appeals court on Thursday upheld the state's new law barring the practice of counseling minors to convert from homosexuality, rejecting the free speech and religious rights arguments of therapists and families who support the practice. The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals unanimously concluded that the ban, the first of its kind in the nation, did not violate the free speech rights of therapists and was within the state's authority to outlaw medical or mental health practices it considers harmful to minors. The court also rejected the argument the law interferes with parents' rights to seek such counseling for their children. "Fundamental rights of parents do not include the right to choose a specific type of provider for a specific medical or mental health treatment that the state has reasonably deemed harmful," 9th Circuit Judge Susan Graber wrote for the three-judge panel. In two separate cases, a group of therapists and families sued over the ban, arguing that it violates the free speech rights of therapists to discuss gay conversion with young patients and tramples on parents' religious freedom to seek therapy to convert their children from homosexuality. The law barred licensed mental health professionals from using the therapy on youths under the age of 18. One federal judge had blocked enforcement of the law while the case is on appeal, while another refused to issue an injunction. The 9th Circuit has now lifted the injunction against the ban, although the therapists and families can ask the court to reconsider the case with an 11-judge panel. The Pacific Justice Institute, one of the organizations challenging the ban, vowed to appeal. "This decision is a dark day for those who believe in the First Amendment and the right of parents over the proper upbringing of their children," said Brad Dacus, the institute's president. Opponents of the ban have expressed concern that other states would follow California if courts uphold the law. In fact, while the 9th Circuit was considering the case, New Jersey recently adopted a similar ban on gay conversion therapy, and that law has been challenged in federal court. California legislators and gay rights advocates sought to abolish the therapy for minors, arguing that it stigmatizes youths and can lead to depression and even suicide. Gay rights groups praised the decision, as did some of the individuals who were forced to undergo the therapy and testified about its harmful effects. "My first response at hearing (about the ruling) was chills and tears," said James Guay, a pastor's son who lived in San Francisco for 20 years until recently moving to West Hollywood. "This barbaric treatment has been deemed ineffective and likely harmful by all the legitimate medical and mental health associations." Howard Mintz covers legal affairs. Contact him at 408-286-0236 or follow him at
Erin Murphy
Former State House of Representatives - Minnesota-64A
Thomas M. Bakk
Former State Senate - Minnesota-3
Sandy Pappas
Minnesota State Senate - District 65
Mark Dayton
Former Governor - Minnesota

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