Canonize the Lucy Loud NSL Retcon


Canonize the Lucy Loud NSL Retcon
The Issue
Many years ago, the infamous episode "No Such Luck" aired during the run of the popular Nickelodeon animated series, "The Loud House." The sheer unpopularity of the episode created a massive rift in the fandom and led to years of toxicity due to the perception that the Loud sisters did not truly love or appreciate their brother, Lincoln. Making matters worse, series creator and episode director Chris Savino further fanned the flames by defending the Loud family, saying that Lincoln deserved it, and that everything resolved without drama and there was no need for a sequel. Following this was 6 years of total radio silence as no one involved with the show or episode acknowledged the widespread unpopularity, fandom drop-off, and discord wrought by the episode (complicating matters was Savino's ouster following accusations of sexual harassment, which led to him being persona nongrata among the industry and Nickelodeon shutting down direct fandom engagement).
This led to the only real outlet for anger towards this and other episodes being fanfiction, typically involving Lincoln leaving his family behind (sans Lily) while the Louds receive much-needed and well-deserved karmic retribution, completely outside Nickelodeon writers' need to make sure the Louds never face punishment, instead often going way too far in punishing the Louds to absolutely needless and unnecessarily ruthless levels.
6 years later, with no signs of discussion about NSL or anger towards the Louds abating, fans began discovering an oddity: that the character Lucy Loud never actually called Lincoln bad luck at any point in the episode, on top of her role in the second half being extremely ambiguous to such an incredibly open point that it was entirely possible that Lucy (and Lucy alone unfortunately) could have stood up for Lincoln at some point and played a role in helping him out in the episode.
This fit with her character and the context around her character at the time: that she was known to be closer to Lincoln than others, that Lincoln had stood up for her in "Sleuth or Consequences," and that she may have regretted actions in previous episodes (such as Save the Date and Raw Deal).
With many in the fanbase still refusing to move on, an idea sparked that turned out to be unexpectedly novel considering how controversial the episode had proven to be: "Why not simply ask Nickelodeon and the showrunners?" Fans decided to seek out definitive answers, first to ask if it was possible Lucy had not believed Lincoln was bad luck, then to request a formal recontextualize so that she didn't believe, and now to request a formal comment on how No Such Luck properly ended to finally settle at least part of the matter and end the fandom bickering.
Surely, attempting to receive proper answers through official channels ought to be worth the time if fans have spent the better part of a decade complaining and is a better use of time than continuing to complain to other fans who cannot do anything about the matter.
It reached the point that the series original creator Chris Savino finally responded:
Here, he takes full responsibility for the episode's poor quality and fully agrees that Lucy did not believe Lincoln was bad luck and in a later comment commits to the idea that not only did Lucy stick up for Lincoln, but if there was an episode following her perspective, she would be the hero who outright "saved Lincoln." Presumably, at some point, the Loud family would have apologized to Lincoln for their wrongdoing.
However, for obvious reasons, Chris Savino no longer works on the show or has the rights to the characters. As such, while his answer is very welcome, it does not go far enough, and also his association with the effort proves controversial.
That is the point of this particular petition: to get a formal response from Nickelodeon to canonize this explanation of events as well as to provide a formal answer to what happened in the aftermath of No Such Luck at long last so that the fandom pain can finally be extinguished and fans can finally move on. There is no need for a comic or a short or an episode sequel (though it isn't unwelcome): all that's required is a formal statement sealing this into canon lore.
- Lucy does not believe Lincoln is bad luck. If anyone could see through Lincoln's lie, it would be the experienced fortunemancer. Thus it would make sense why she would initially be upset with Lincoln enough to lock him out of his room when he continues his lie and breaks Lori's golf clubs
- Lucy does not at all consent to Lincoln sleeping outside and repeatedly tries to get him back inside, but the rest of the family does not want him inside and Lincoln is comfortable outside "with the company of squirrels"
- Lucy does not consent to Lincoln being locked out.
That is the absolute baseline of the fantheory and request as is.
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The Issue
Many years ago, the infamous episode "No Such Luck" aired during the run of the popular Nickelodeon animated series, "The Loud House." The sheer unpopularity of the episode created a massive rift in the fandom and led to years of toxicity due to the perception that the Loud sisters did not truly love or appreciate their brother, Lincoln. Making matters worse, series creator and episode director Chris Savino further fanned the flames by defending the Loud family, saying that Lincoln deserved it, and that everything resolved without drama and there was no need for a sequel. Following this was 6 years of total radio silence as no one involved with the show or episode acknowledged the widespread unpopularity, fandom drop-off, and discord wrought by the episode (complicating matters was Savino's ouster following accusations of sexual harassment, which led to him being persona nongrata among the industry and Nickelodeon shutting down direct fandom engagement).
This led to the only real outlet for anger towards this and other episodes being fanfiction, typically involving Lincoln leaving his family behind (sans Lily) while the Louds receive much-needed and well-deserved karmic retribution, completely outside Nickelodeon writers' need to make sure the Louds never face punishment, instead often going way too far in punishing the Louds to absolutely needless and unnecessarily ruthless levels.
6 years later, with no signs of discussion about NSL or anger towards the Louds abating, fans began discovering an oddity: that the character Lucy Loud never actually called Lincoln bad luck at any point in the episode, on top of her role in the second half being extremely ambiguous to such an incredibly open point that it was entirely possible that Lucy (and Lucy alone unfortunately) could have stood up for Lincoln at some point and played a role in helping him out in the episode.
This fit with her character and the context around her character at the time: that she was known to be closer to Lincoln than others, that Lincoln had stood up for her in "Sleuth or Consequences," and that she may have regretted actions in previous episodes (such as Save the Date and Raw Deal).
With many in the fanbase still refusing to move on, an idea sparked that turned out to be unexpectedly novel considering how controversial the episode had proven to be: "Why not simply ask Nickelodeon and the showrunners?" Fans decided to seek out definitive answers, first to ask if it was possible Lucy had not believed Lincoln was bad luck, then to request a formal recontextualize so that she didn't believe, and now to request a formal comment on how No Such Luck properly ended to finally settle at least part of the matter and end the fandom bickering.
Surely, attempting to receive proper answers through official channels ought to be worth the time if fans have spent the better part of a decade complaining and is a better use of time than continuing to complain to other fans who cannot do anything about the matter.
It reached the point that the series original creator Chris Savino finally responded:
Here, he takes full responsibility for the episode's poor quality and fully agrees that Lucy did not believe Lincoln was bad luck and in a later comment commits to the idea that not only did Lucy stick up for Lincoln, but if there was an episode following her perspective, she would be the hero who outright "saved Lincoln." Presumably, at some point, the Loud family would have apologized to Lincoln for their wrongdoing.
However, for obvious reasons, Chris Savino no longer works on the show or has the rights to the characters. As such, while his answer is very welcome, it does not go far enough, and also his association with the effort proves controversial.
That is the point of this particular petition: to get a formal response from Nickelodeon to canonize this explanation of events as well as to provide a formal answer to what happened in the aftermath of No Such Luck at long last so that the fandom pain can finally be extinguished and fans can finally move on. There is no need for a comic or a short or an episode sequel (though it isn't unwelcome): all that's required is a formal statement sealing this into canon lore.
- Lucy does not believe Lincoln is bad luck. If anyone could see through Lincoln's lie, it would be the experienced fortunemancer. Thus it would make sense why she would initially be upset with Lincoln enough to lock him out of his room when he continues his lie and breaks Lori's golf clubs
- Lucy does not at all consent to Lincoln sleeping outside and repeatedly tries to get him back inside, but the rest of the family does not want him inside and Lincoln is comfortable outside "with the company of squirrels"
- Lucy does not consent to Lincoln being locked out.
That is the absolute baseline of the fantheory and request as is.
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Petition created on August 3, 2023
