Patreon Embezzles at the speed of lighting, taking bad notes from YouTube. Both websites think that channel owners money is theirs, they take their "portion" and the majority of "your's" and think they can get away w/ it. Surprises are coming for everyone, and no matter how many times you tell an idiot, a criminal that they need to watch their step, and you are on to them, they continue w/ their crimes spree, especially now Patreon. For YouTube Who is hiding my subscribers and has been for years, what do you think the chances are in this lifetime of me meeting people inside a restaurant that recognized me in a small town the in middle of nowhere with only the 5 million views you fake on my channel? In reality, it would not happen, but we had a great laugh over that. Next, imagine my surprise when they are publically subscribed me to (2 different people and 2 different addresses) and they don't show up on my list of subscribers. That is added to the other people that I have in a list that are subscribed and do not show up. And then next, imagine my surprise when they told me their family across the country watches my videos and they were going to go home and tell they they met me in person. https://youtu.be/NkG_h_T1rrg And then for Patreon, the obvious embezzlers Here's a little FYI for you, It's a really bad idea to finish out the month without adding the September subscribers that you are hiding, and then the October new subscribers that you are hiding on top of the people that changed their pledges to a higher pledge It's really going to be an issue coming up in November and you are running out of days in October, and once the November clock tick tocks, and you have not fixed it, ooops, we get to file the magnitude of embezzlement charges and did you know, it's an individual count of embezzlement per act, per person, per subscriber, per time you do it? We are talking several hundred counts of embezzlement, in just my account alone, but ooops, we found it in others also. But you know what, if you want to keep doing it your way, you go right ahead, when it's time for consequences, they get to use everything we have collected. Good luck with that.