If Jim Henson was alive and see Steve Whitmire, with his (unacceptable business conduct) Jim Henson would be extraordinarily patient and say, no let’s have him continue to perform. It’s going to be okay, it’s okay. And I think Matt Vogel never should’ve been chosen to perform Kermit. Because Matt didn’t know Jim, Matt Vogel has joined the muppets few years after Jim passed away. And I feel he’s only learned personalities and influences from Caroll Spinney & Jerry Nelson. Since he had performed Big Bird and Count Von Count after experiencing working with Caroll Spinney and Jerry Nelson on Sesame Street. And what he’s learned from Caroll and Jerry.