Innocent until proven Guilty? What does that mean?

Hi friends and child protectors, 

In defense, when survivors or truth tellers come forward with testimonies, those who do not like the stories often take on standard responses as makeshift shields. One example runs something like this: "What you say are all opinions. You do not have ALL the facts. We have something in this country called "innocent until proven guilty," and this is what you must adhere to. Get ALL the facts and go through the legal procedures we have in place to pursue justice. If a court finds the person guilty, then you can say they are." I responded to one person who essentially put up such an argument. His name is Robert so I responded using that name and "Robert-think" to indicate that type of mind set.
"I think Robert believes that nothing happens unless it is proven to have happen or has been judged to have happened by a court of law. In the mindset of people like this, "innocent until proven guilty," is an existential sort of statement, not a definition that applies only to the manner in which our courts operate. If I shoot a person and they die, I have killed them. That is a fact. If I shoot people who are not threatening my life, I am a killer. Again..fact. The law, something manmade, weaves in and around human events and determines what, according to law, is lawful or "legal," and what breaks the laws, a set of codes that have been arranged and altered over the years by various people in a position to do so, what is, in this sense, "a crime."
Hence, if I stand up in movie theater and kill scores of people with an AR-15, if I make it to a trial, I will most likely be judged to have committed a crime, a mass murder and be charged with several counts. If, on the other hand, I take my AR or whatever into a village in Afghanistan and kill the same number of people, I will likely not be charged with a crime as this is effectively legal. I am a soldier. Killing innocent people, while it is supposed to be avoided, happens all the time.
In either case the killing happened and the person is a killer. This is a fact and needn't be proven in a court of law. Suppose the theater shooter kills himself! He will forever be innocent as he will never be tried in a court of law, according to Robert-think. Suppose he gets away and is never found. Innocent until proven guilty? No one should state what they saw or experienced there as "not ALL the facts are in" and people have not gone through the proper channels? Ridiculous.
Likewise with sexual abuse. A person is a sexual abuser the instant he or she sexually abuses another person. There are thousands of instances of sexual abuse that happened at Kirkwood High an in the schools. There as many survivors and a percentage of these have told their stories, have come forward with testimonies. They are telling the truth. The investigation confirms that there were at least 30 faculty or staff in the district who sexually abused children. And this determination was made with the facts the could access. Many files had disappeared, the files were in disarray, and most abused former students did not come forward for many obvious reasons with their stories.
I should not have to repeat some of the central reasons why survivors of sexual abuse do not report the abuse or do not continue to pursue justice against their perpetrators. I will note a few in no order of hierarchy for those with zero grasp of this subject.
1. They meet with what they have met with here... defensiveness, doubt, suspicion, they are told they do not have "ALL" the facts as if any single survivor should have every fact on 50 years of abuse by 30 abusers! They are insulted, demeaned, said to be anti-school, said to be anti-community. They are re-victimized as THE PROBLEM, rather than having it understood that what they are talking about was and is THE PROBLEM.
2. Many are ashamed to have these facts known by others as they will be seen, afterwards, as "that girl or woman who was raped, " or "that boy/man whose teacher raped him." These are highly emotionally charged facts, difficult for the survivor to live with and difficult for the survivor to have broadly known. What happened was NOT THEIR FAULT yet they are treated as if they are lepers, have some disease or were somehow culpable.
3. Going to the police following sexual abuse is traumatic. The line of questioning, physical examinations, having to recount this to strangers who are skeptical and will be trying to ascertain whether the victim brought this upon herself or himself, are all extremely difficult to experience particularly following serious trauma. Moreover, as it has been proven time and again in the past, in many communities, police have close ties to the schools, to the wealthy families in the area, they will protect reputations of powerful people, and become complicit in doing so. Many survivors simply do not trust the police and there is good cause not to.
4. Relative to the real world or the way things work in the real world, statistics indicate that out of 1000 instances of rape, 300 are reported. From these 52 are tried as felonies. Of these, 50 rapists ever do time. The incentive to go through the work of fighting straight uphill in a legal system that is slanted against survivors of sexual abuse, even rape, is minimal.
5. Many of the perpetrators are well known, broadly respected members of their communities, big fish in small bowls. This adds to the immunity they have. Survivors speak out against them and instantly, ten times that number swear what a good person the perpetrator is, how they never had trouble with him or her, what honors they have, etc. These predators often are fairly wealthy as well...not in all cases but many are wealthy or are connected to people who are and who can provide powerful lawyers. The combination of powerful lawyers and large reputation are difficult to beat.
There are many other reasons survivors do not bring this up. For some, the shock and lack of support of the original offense is so overwhelming they wall it up in their minds and can not as much as think about it. It is a form of amnesia for them. Others were threatened, coerced, particularly as children. The perpetrator will kill their parents, kill their family, kill them or something else incredibly violent and horrible will happen.
Robert-think would say that these perpetrators, mostly serial offenders, in the real world, are innocent because they have not been proven guilty in a court of law. If persons with such a mind set had been raped by a perpetrator who had not been tried nor convicted, I do not imagine they would hold that their perpetrators were innocent, were not rapists, andhad not committed a crime."