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Life has been very hectic for us the past two days, but here's the verbatim transcript of the exchange between reporter Nicole le Fever (NOS) and the Dalai Lama during the Meet & Greet in the Nieuwe Kerk in Amsterdam today (15 September 2018).

"Nicole le Fever: "Your Holiness, yesterday you had a meeting with four victims of sexual abuse by Buddhist teachers. What did you learn from them?"

Dalai Lama: "I already know these things, nothing new. But, particularly in Dharamsala... during the Western Teachers Conference in 1993, I think more than ten years… twentyfive years… the Western Buddhist Teachers Conference at Dharamsala. So, someone mentioned, I think most probably Sogyal Rinpoche, with these, how to say, about problems, sexual problems.

Thubten Jinpa: "Allegations were made at that conference."

Dalai Lama: "So, I told self-discipline as far as Buddhists and also some other people… the original teacher, in our case the Buddha, made very clear that self-discipline and sexual misconduct, I think even lay people..."

Thubten Jinpa: "This ethics related to sexual behaviour does not apply just for the monastics alone. Buddha himself spoke about the lay practitioners' sexual ethics as well."

Dalai Lama: "So, these people, they don't care about Buddha's teaching. So, now the only thing is: make public, these things. Then people may be concerned about their shame, their embarassment. So, I told, so yesterday also I mentioned, since many years ago I already mentioned that: 'Now you make things clear, so very good, I don't care.' Then also, you see, I mentioned, in the Winter, in November, all the important religious leaders of Tibetan traditions gather in Dharamsala. So at that time, you see, they should appeal, I suggested. So, I think the religious leaders, I think, should pay more attention, like that."

This verbatim transcript is based on an audio recording of the Meet & Greet that I made myself. An edited version of that same exchange can be viewed in the linked video.