Department for Education: Please address the inequality between Early Years Teachers (EYPs or EYTs) and teachers with QTS

Department for Education: Please address the inequality between Early Years Teachers (EYPs or EYTs) and teachers with QTS

    1. Julie Dervey
    2. Petition by

      Julie Dervey

      Hull, United Kingdom

EYPs were promised that their ‘status’ would be equal though different to that of QTS. The DIFFERENCE is clearly that they will continue not to be valued as equal in status or in financial terms. The funding has never been made available to settings to ensure that EYPs could be employed. In fact most staff budgets are under pressure to sustain existing pay awards.

If qualified EYPs are not to be paid an equivalent rate to those with QTS then those that wish must be enabled to be fast-tracked to access local, free, additional training to achieve Early Years QTS.

Some training providers, for ‘Early Years Teachers with QTS’, do not regard Early Childhood based degrees or Early Years Professional Status as relevant or equivalent core studies to apply for this training. These providers prefer applicants to have academic core study degrees such as Maths, French or History over specific studies relating to Child Development, etc. - and will not consider applications from Early Years Professionals or candidates with Early Years degrees.

Similarly, potential Schools Direct candidates struggle to find locally available training for Early Years Teaching and are generally required to have had primary school experience to get beyond the interview stage.

Unless, EYPs are able to self-fund further training through the Early Years PGCE, they encounter a total block to accessing QTS and receiving Teacher's pay.

Regrettably, many EYPs have been unable to secure permanent and well-paid employment that will enable them to afford additional training. In fact, I am in exactly the same job as when I commenced training in 2008, in spite of my vastly improved qualifications and levels of skill.

It is unacceptable and damaging to the Early Years landscape that Early Childhood Specialists are discriminated in this way and the situation should be resolved with immediate effect.

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    1. Salaried Early Years Teacher Training with Schools Direct

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      I have been looking out for September 2014's list of Salaried Early Years Schools Direct Teacher Training Places.

      Regrettably, I have observed that the new Schools Direct list has NO salaried training places for Early Years. (https://education.gov.uk/schooldirectapplications/ui/public/search/course/_source/menu/_pageId/10/_pageVn/0.21)

      This implies that I must give up my low paid but secure Early Years job to undertake further training in an age group that is different to the Early Years to enable me to achieve QTS and then to apply to teach in the Early Years!
      How is this even remotely fair?

      School Direct Application System

      This application portal is for 2013/14 candidates. Anyone wishing to apply for 2014/15 period should visit the Get into Teaching webpages for further information. To search for a Lead School, please use the filter section below: To select multiple search criteria for example more than one 'Subject' or 'Your preferred funding option' hold the ctrl key on your keyboard while making your selections.

    2. Nursery World Article: EYPs denied Early Years Teacher certificate 230913

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer
      EYPs denied Early Years Teacher certificate

      For this reason, existing EYPs will not be eligible for a conversion certificate which they can show to employers. This clarification from the National College comes in the wake of EYPs contacting their training providers to request a conversion certificate. It has now confirmed that these requests will be declined.

    3. Equivalency Certification

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      Please be aware: No provider should be issuing 'new EYTS certificates' to existing EYPs. The NCTL site states that this is against regulations. The EYPS & EYTS while equivalent are different and relate to a differing set of Teaching Standards.

    4. Definition of equal (from the Oxford English Dictionary)

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      The Oxford English Dictionary clarifies that the word equal means as follows:
      adjective-
      • (of people) having the same status, rights, or opportunities
      I understood that EYPs were supposed to be equal to QTS in terms of Early Years expertise but it seems that we will never have the same status. rights or opportunities. Now it seems we will also be usurped by EYTs.
      Don't get me wrong, I totally support the aim to professionalise the workforce but feel that by effectively down-grading and demotivating EYPs, we will lose their excellent skills by forcing them out of the sector!

    5. Official message from Best Practice Network

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      I have received a request to publicise this message from Best Practice Network:

      In July we offered to provide a personalised confirmation of equivalence between Early Years Professional Status and Early Years Teacher Status that can be used in conjunction with EYPS certificates. The reason that we have offered this is to support EYPs in their conversations with employers about the equivalency of two distinctive awards. There has been some confusion about what this means – to clarify, a statement of confirmation of equivalence does not mean this is a conversion or replacement certificate.
      Maureen Lee
      Director

    6. Kathy Brodie asks: Has anyone asked for a 'conversion' certificate for the

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer
      Has anyone asked for a 'conversion' certificate for their existing EYPS to Early Years Teacher? How successful have you been?

      Have something to say? Join LinkedIn for free to participate in the conversation. When you join, you can comment and post your own discussions. Has anyone asked for a 'conversion' certificate for their existing EYPS to Early Years Teacher? How successful have you been?

    7. UPDATE: EYPs are now EYTs - BUT equivalency certification is not available

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      With effect from this month (September 2013), all existing practitioners with Early Years Professional Status have been conferred the title Early Years Teacher Status by the Department for Education.
      UPDATE: We have been advised that no provider should be issuing 'new EYT certificates' as this is against DfE regulations. The qualifications while equivalent are different with a differing set of Teaching Standards.

    8. Reached 1,000 signatures
    9. Emailing the media and MPs

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      Ways you can help to increase awareness:
      ministers@education.gsi.gov.uk = FAO Mr Michael Gove MP
      elizabeth.truss@education.gsi.gov.uk = Ms Elizabeth Truss MP
      Stephen.Twigg.MP@parliament.uk = Mr Stephen Twigg MP (Shadow Cabinet)
      sendyourstory@itn.co.uk = ITN News
      news.plan@bskyb.com = Sky News
      newseditor@independent.co.uk = The Independent
      dtnews@telegraph.co.uk = The Telegraph
      letters@tes.co.uk = Times Educational Supplement
      education@guardian.co.uk = The Guardian
      reader@observer.co.uk = The Observer
      jake@teachnursery.com = Teach Nursery Magazine
      neil.henty@markallengroup.com = EYE magazine
      liz.roberts@markallengroup.com = Nursery World
      c.e.nutbrown@Sheffield.ac.uk = Cathy Nutbrown (Early Years Consultant)

    10. Direct contact address for Ms E Truss MP

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      I have today been advised, by Graham Stuart MP, that I should write to Ms Truss at the following address to ensure a direct response: Elizabeth Truss MP Department for Education Castle View House East Lane Runcorn Cheshire WA7 2GJ I wonder if anyone will care to join me in mailing this MP? Don't forget to pass on the links to the Blog and the petition whenever you can. http://eyptrials.blogspot.co.uk/ http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/department-for-education-stop-discrimination-against-early-years-professionals Many thanks Julie

    11. We agree on some things!

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      http://www.theguardian.com/education/2013/jul/11/standards-pre-school-teachers
      Even the DfE agrees that Early Years Teachers must have the same status as QTS teachers?

      New standards for pre-school teachers

      Early years teachers will need to have the same level of qualifications as those working in primary schools in the future under plans to reform pre-school education, it has been announced. Teachers working with young children will be expected to meet new standards similar to those that classroom staff are expected to meet, the Department for Education (DfE) said.

    12. KCFM interview to be air today. 99.8

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer
      Local campaigner calls on Government to improve rights of preschool workers

      Tuesday, August 27th 2013 08:45 A Qualified Early Years Professional from East Yorkshire is calling on the Education Minister, Liz Truss, to improve the rights of pre-school workers. Julie Dervey is campaigning for the workers to receive the same status and salary as teachers, which they had previously been promised.

    13. POLL RESULTS: Should Early Years Teachers have QTS?

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      The results for this poll are in - An overwhelming majority of respondents are in agreement:
      YES - they should have parity with primary and secondary school teachers = 79.59%
      NO - it isn't necessary = 20.41%

    14. My email to Ms Truss -16th August 2013

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      I have responded to Ms Truss and asked that she responds directly to me in future.
      I have asked Ms Truss to explain the £6000 disparity between QTS wages and unqualified teacher wages (http://media.education.gov.uk/assets/files/pdf/s/2013%20stpcd%20master%20final.pdf ) and pointed out some problems with the Assessment Only route for QTS. See my Blog for more information: http://eyptrials.blogspot.co.uk/

    15. Ms Truss responds 12th August 2013

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      I have today received a copy of an email that Ms Truss has forwarded to my local MP in response to my complaints.
      Her response leads me to ask whether Ms Truss knows how much difference the QTS pay scale makes to those working as teachers. Currently QTS teachers receive between £21,804 pa and £31,868 pa (excluding London areas). Unqualified teachers receive between £15,976 pa and £25,267 pa.
      She also suggests that QTS may be achieved via the assessment only route but I thought that applicants had to have primary school experience. I will investigate!
      More details available on: http://eyptrials.blogspot.co.uk/

    16. Daynurseries.co.uk article published 15th Aug 2013

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer
      Early Years Professional launches petition in battle to gain Qualified Teacher Status

      Date of article: 15-Aug-13 Article By: Laura McCardle, News Editor An experienced Early Years Professional (EYP) has launched an online campaign calling for action from the Department for Education after she was refused access to a course offering Qualified Teacher Status (QTS), despite having a first class degree in Early Childhood, Education and Care.

    17. Reached 750 signatures
    18. TACTYC (Association for the Professional Development of EY Educators)

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      TACTYC have responded to the new Early Years Teachers' Standards in a document dated 18th July 2013, available on: http://www.tactyc.org.uk/pdfs/Teacher's%20Standards.pdf

      The document describes that the Committee takes a poor view in regard to several elements of the new Teaching Standards and asks: " How can one set of teachers claim to be as important as or equivalent to those with QTS, when by virtue of the fact that they do not have QTS they will be paid less, have different terms and conditions of service and have fewer career opportunities?"

      TACTYC - Page not found

      TACTYC - Association for the Professional Development of Early Years Educators

    19. I have received another email from DfE dated 240713

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      Regrettably, the DfE seem to just repeat their previous email and assume that the issues petitioned against may just disappear.
      I am particularly annoyed that they seem to think that qualified EYPs need to repeatedly be told about on-going changes to the variety of criteria and standards relating to EYFS. They don't acknowledge that our training ensures that we continually research current legislation to adjust and maximise our provision accordingly!
      More on my Blog: http://eyptrials.blogspot.co.uk/

    20. 500 signatures proves that we mean business!

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      The petition now has 500 signatures. Amazing!
      I will be very grateful if you will support the campaign further by reposting the link (http://www.change.org/en-GB/petitions/department-for-education-stop-discrimination-against-early-years-professionals ) onto your Facebook, Twitter, email or other media devices and help to encourage others to join us.
      Most people do appreciate the need for dedication and skill from the team surrounding very young children and believe that such specific expertise should be rewarded.
      My Blog is being regularly updated and provides additional details about how the campaign is doing. (http://eyptrials.blogspot.co.uk/ )
      I am currently passing on the petition details to all of my local media but will be thrilled if you will consider reaching out to your local media to do likewise.
      Thank you
      Julie Dervey

      Department for Education: Stop discrimination against Early Years Professionals

      EYPs were promised that their 'status' would be equal though different to that of QTS. The DIFFERENCE is clearly that they will continue not to be...

    21. Reached 500 signatures
    22. I wonder what the Early Years Sector will make of this!

      Julie Dervey
      Petition Organizer

      <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p>Truss tipped for promotion. How can someone be rewarded for getting it so wrong! <a href="http://t.co/bkudQyy13P">http://t.co/bkudQyy13P</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/search?q=%23eytalking&amp;src=hash">#eytalking</a></p>&mdash; Jacqui Burke (@jacquiburkefp) <a href="https://twitter.com/jacquiburkefp/statuses/356335705200410624">July 14, 2013</a></blockquote>
      <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

    23. Reached 250 signatures

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    Reasons for signing

    • Naomi Summers WORCESTER, UNITED KINGDOM
      • about 1 month ago

      I am going to be qualified in December 2014

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    • Pat Gates MILTON KEYNES, UNITED KINGDOM
      • 3 months ago

      These trained early years practitioners do a fantastic job - equally as good as, sometimes better than, qualified teachers.

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    • M B MUNICH, GERMANY
      • 3 months ago

      I am moving back to England soon after 3 years working as an Early Years Teacher in Germany. I already have the EYP status and i would like this to be recognised so I can be seen as an Early Years Teacher in England.

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    • tanya rubio SWINDON, UNITED KINGDOM
      • 3 months ago

      I am an EYP, with 11 years experience, a degree, I would have waited to do the EYT Feel devastated

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    • Gemma Holden TROWBRIDGE, UNITED KINGDOM
      • 4 months ago

      Gaining QTS will give me the opportunity to secure a career path which will enable me to earn enough to support my family.

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