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Save NHFD Engine 9

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The citizens of New Haven deserve adequate fire and EMS service in all of their neighborhoods.  By taking Engine 9 off duty, response time to the area around Ellsworth Ave station would be increased.  Please sign the petition to save Engine Co. 9!

Some recent comments:

A couple of facts not being stated on the City’s side.
1: The Squad Company will now be responding on medicals even with the cheaper unit in house as this is Dept/City protocol. So now this transfers the wear and tear from a $750,000 fire engine to a $1.3 million dollar Special Operations Company. How does that make sense?
2. The Squad as stated above is a Special Operations Company capable of more than just firefighting operations. Squad members are equipped and proficient in Auto/Machinery extrication, Hazardous Materials response and mitigation (Yale has many laboratories that the Squads respond to yearly), High/Low angle rope rescue (think East & West Rock, multiple rescues there a year), Water rescues, Confined space rescue, Trench collapses and minor to major gas leaks. Taking Squad 2 and confining it to Engine 9’s district only cuts a city wide rescue company that is strategically placed to cover the west side of the city. Why deny a highly specialized service to the taxpayers? Why should the residents of the Hill now have to wait 5-7 minutes longer for the Squad to come out of Whitney Ave, when there is a staffed Squad right down the street?
3. AMR is well known throughout the country to reduce the amount of ALS cars on duty when a municipality increases their ALS staffing. This equates to more time the NHFD units will be spent in and out of the hospital, NOT in the district they cover, meaning the engines assigned will be going to to provide BLS coverage until an ALS unit frees up.
4. The fire department is an insurance policy you never want to use, but if you do; you want the absolute best coverage possible. Public safety and education should be the best funded and operated city departments. Those departments provide a positive future for the residents of the city.
NHFD has a system that works, and works great. ADDING paramedics to the current daily operations would be a great asset. Medicals calls are up sure and make up a large amount of what they do, but should not be the only consideration when deciding staffing. (Courtesy of Jacob O'Malley)

For the uninitiated. A squad is not a unit used as a medical unit unless absolutely required. A squad is an engine with a lot of technical rescue gear on board which is manned by by highly trained and skilled firefighters who can use ropes to rappel down cliffs, cut up vehicles to get trapped people out and other specialized tasks which can’t normally be done other fire companies. There is one squad on Whitney Avenue which covers the entire east side of the city and one squad on Ellsworth Avenue which covers the entire west side of the city. On particularly difficult calls, it is not unusual to have both squads respond and work together. To take engine 9 out of service and use squad 2 as a fire engine makes no sense and strips the entire west side of the city of specialized services. If the mayor has her way, it is not a question of will something tragic and preventable happen, is is simply a question of when. Think of the squad units as really big toolboxes on wheels that are capable of doing really difficult and dangerous jobs that other units can’t do. The firefighters that are assigned to the squads are typically senior people who have spent years learning to do technical rescues under adverse conditions. Do we really want to roll the dice on this one? Fontana does not live in New Haven and could care less!!!!!!! (Peter99)

Engine Company #9 is the key fire company at the Ellsworth Avenue station and every fire station has its key first responder. Just like our military they are all “combat ready” to take action “in their district” and beyond. Taking out of service Engine #9 or any other firefighting company will impact more than just the district they are assigned to. The ten fire stations in New Haven are all strategically located. Currently if Westville’s Engine Company #15 is at another alarm and a fire or emergency occurs Engine Company #9 is the closest to cover. The proposed deactivation will impact and endanger the response time in several neighborhoods where Engine Company #9 covers. (Edward Francis)

On top of the 20,000 medical calls responded to by the NHFD, 6,000 other calls (more than other CT city’s firefighters) are covered by less engine and truck companies. And what do you do when those 4 Paramedic Units are all out on calls, which by current call volume would be happening at least several times per day? Push for cutting 7 engines and 3 trucks, because it is only those in need of the emergency services when those precious seconds count, who will suffer—maybe it will be you-who knows.

As far as The Mayor’s & Rick’s: Their proposal is just that, a proposal. When the people of the City get to read and see the facts, they will choose whether or not to back the Fire Department, who understands the needs of the City Stakeholders. But, they can opt for a guy from Orange and his plan that was already tried and failed in the 1980’s—-this lead to the current, more efficient and rapid services. The Union’s stance is not being against the 2 Units, it is in fact to not diminish services, while increasing Paramedic Units. Statistics show that the NHFD’s call volume is only increasing, both in Medical, Fire, Hazmat, Rescue, and the various other calls they respond to. New Haven’s population, unlike most in CT, is on the rise. New construction permits are being taken out at a rapid pace, and there is so much demand for rents, that New Haven is in the top 5 per capita on rent fees. Growth is here! Within 10 years, New Haven’s population is projected by the City to expand by 10,000 people, to approximately 140,000+ people, not including undocumented residents. This also doesn’t include the 80,000 people who are in New Haven on a daily basis to work or go to school, or the tens of thousands of commercial vehicles that travel in and around New Haven—there has been an increase in these hazardous calls over the past decade, as well as every other class.

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