Cicero Residents Against Lakeshore Village @ Lakeshore Country Club
Cicero Residents Against Lakeshore Village @ Lakeshore Country Club
Why this petition matters
PLEASE SHARE, WITHOUT SHARING WE CAN NOT GET THE WORD OUT! Even if you do not sign it, be aware of what could be coming!
**This petition will be printed and presented to the board during an upcoming meeting on this project**
This petition is signed stating that you are against the creation of the Lakeshore Villages Project at the current location of the Lakeshore Country Club.
During a recent Town of Cicero Board meeting (July 13th, 2022) it was proposed to expand the Lakeshore Country Club located @ 6777 Lakeshore Rd, Cicero, NY 13039. The planned expansion is to include but not limited to the following, a promenade, marina, parking area, parking garage, bridges, residential markets, restaurants, entertainment areas, 200 single family homes and town homes, 400 apartments and condos...all this with the possibility of adding more in the future.
Although this would be great for our community, for those of us that live in Cicero and travel South Bay Rd, Thompson Rd, Lakeshore Rd, and Rt 31, this build would be catastrophic to an already highly congested traffic system. Without making a SIGNIFICANT upgrade to the traffic system in the Cicero area this would become a nightmare for those of us who already live there. The apartment complex on the end of Mudmill and Lakeshore road that is in the process of completion will already add to the stress of the local traffic problems. Plus there are talks of other projects along the communities that use Lakeshore road and rt. 31.
Our road system in Cicero can not sustain this! Drive anywhere in Cicero at almost anytime of the day, try to get off or on any of the on ramps to major highways in the area - traffic is already backed up!
Meeting notes about the project from 7.13.2022 Town of Cicero:
Guy Hart from Hart Lyman and Brian Bouchard from CHA Companies gave a presentation for the Lakeshore Village. They explained that Hart Lyman Group is a Syracuse based company and has been developing since the 1960’s. They have created major projects in parts of Florida, and the Carolinas. They decided to return to the Central NY area to develop due to the upcoming growth in the next 5 years. They have met with the NY DOT, DEC, County Executive, County Legislature members, Governor Hochul, and Senator Schumer. They do have a plan to make a legacy lakeside community with shops, restaurants, businesses, and entertainment, with a townhouses, single family houses and luxury housing units. Brian Bouchard explained that there will be three major areas; The Point, The Harbor and residential section. The first step, procedurally is the intent to apply for a zone change to a Planned Unit Development, (PUD). They are interested in presenting intent of the project to the Town Board and public, to get input and feedback. The current golf course is 150 acres north and south of Lakeshore Road. The main feature of the project is the ¼ mile of lakefront shoreline. He explained the Point is going to have a lakefront area that features the promenade with walking access to the marina, and parking areas with the parking garage. The Harbor features the pedestrian bridge, residential, markets, restaurants, and entertainment areas. They continued their presentation and answered several questions from the Town Board about this project.
Following this presentation, there were several questions asked of Guy Hart Jr. and Brian Bouchard regarding this project. Councilor Karp wondered if any talks had taken place with the neighbors near this site. He asked if there would be sufficient public parking for people to patronize these businesses that are proposed. He also asked if there will be discussions with the County about widening South Bay Rd. Guy Jr. stated that he had talked to a few neighbors with trepidation. He stated that they have taken into consideration all the required parking spaces that would be needed for this project. He stated that they have talked to the County DOT about widening South Bay Rd. and will probably have a stub road somewhere on this project to access Route 31. Supervisor Aregano asked if they have secured funding for this project and is it sustainable without the Chip Fab project in the Town of Clay. He asked if there have there been talks with the DEC and would they be asking for a PILOT program for this project. Guy Jr. stated that they have funding capabilities with Valley Bank as one of their lenders. They bought Lakeshore Yacht and Country Club back at the end of 2017 as a real estate investment. It will be a great place to build a village with or without the Chip Fab component. They will be asking for a PILOT program and they have had talks with the DEC. The DEC was very positive with adding water ways and would consider enhancements of a local public pier site like in the Town of Sullivan, Skaneateles, and in Oswego County. Brian Bouchard stated that it would be a joint application through the Army Corp. of Engineers and the DEC. When you picture the excavation of the waterways, a lot of this occurs on dry land and you essentially leave a plug where the existing marina is until all that work is completed. Supervisor Aregano asked if this project could move forward without a parking garage and he was concerned about several residents losing their view of the lake with this project. Guy Jr. stated that they would have to look at surface parking in some of the larger green spaces. They would possibly have to down size the project to eliminate the parking garage. They could possibly use a shuttle service for bigger events from other areas. In talking about residents about losing their view of the lake, he stated that they will have to have discussions with those 4 or 5 homeowners. Councilor Karp wondered about the traffic study and could they get a copy of that to look at. Guy Jr. stated that they did have the DOT do a traffic study of all of Lakeshore Rd. both east and west. He would make sure that they Board received a copy of that study.
Councilor Becallo asked how many apartments total would they have with this project and what types of businesses and retail are planned. Guy Jr. stated that they will have 200 single family homes and town homes and about 400 apartments and condos within the entire complex with the possibility of adding more in the future. We are hoping to add shops for local artisans, a small ships store and some small pubs like in Cazenovia or Skaneateles. There could possibly be a clothing boutique. All of these would be owner operate and would create a lot of local jobs. We have about 70,000 square feet of shop space available. Councilor White stated that she took a recent trip to Cooperstown and had used a shuttle service there with great success. She thought that a shuttle service for this project would be a great idea to consider to help with parking issues. Councilor Mirizio asked how many rooms would be in the hotel and would they have access to South Bay Rd or Route 31. Guy Jr. stated that they plan on about 90-120 keys (rooms). They are not sure yet as they haven’t finished talks with the hotel investor. He stated that they are not sure about an access onto South Bay Road as they do not own any land there as this time, but that they plan on having an access onto Route 31 in the future. Supervisor Aregano asked Steve Procopio, if this project is changed to a PUD, how long would developers have to fulfill their obligation on a project. Steve Procopio said that the current code states that they have 5 years to complete the project.
BY SIGNING THIS PETITION, YOU AGREE THAT YOU ARE AGAINST THIS PROJECT MOVING FORWARD AND AGREE THIS IS NOT THE RIGHT PROJECT FOR CICERO!