Milne Do: India, Pakistan, let people meet
  • Petitioning The Governments of India and Pakistan

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The Governments of India and Pakistan

Milne Do: India, Pakistan, let people meet

    1. Aman ki Asha Destination Peace
    2. Petition by

      Aman ki Asha Destination Peace

      India, Pakistan, United States

We welcome the signing of the new visa regime between the governments of India and Pakistan in their historic agreement of September 8, 2012, that has added new categories – in particular tourist visas - and eased some restrictions. This is a positive step in the right direction. We urge the governments to stay the course. The space for the hand of friendship to be extended across this border has expanded, but many of our other demands remain to be met, to allow people-to-people contact between India and Pakistan. These include:

- Allow long-term visas to people with families and to applicants who meet the visa criteria. [Some categories of visitors will now be able to obtain six-month multiple entry visas. We urge the governments to extend the duration to three years, or a year at least]

- Allow Indian and Pakistani cross-border spouses the same rights and privileges as spouses of other countries married to Indian or Pakistani citizens, or at least resident visas. [Not addressed].**See Note** below

- Allow visa on arrival to senior citizens and members of divided families, particularly children at all entry points. [The new visa regime enables senior citizens aged 65 and above to get a visa on arrival at Wagah/Attari border only, single entry, for up to 45 days only. This should be multiple entry for at least a year]

- Allow tourist visas between India and Pakistan [Tourist visas are now allowed for groups of between 10 to 50 going through approved tour operators. We urge governments to allow individuals to make their own itineraries and travel freely in both countries]

- Make police reporting on arrival and departure the exception rather than the rule [Senior citizens and children under 12 are now exempted from police reporting; this should be the case for all visitors except for certain cases]

- Do away with the requirement of entry and exit from the same point, using the same mode of transport [People can enter and exit from different check posts and change in mode of travel will also be permitted, except for those entering by foot/road at Wagha/Attari]

- Allow visas to be valid for the entire country (subject to reasonable restrictions) rather than one or two cities [Visitors will now be able to get visas for up to five cities – but the country visa is still elusive]

- Re-open the Mumbai and Karachi consulates, and consider opening more consulates in major cities [Not addressed]

- Make student visas freely available [Not addressed]

- Curtail unnecessary paperwork; [Not addressed. Pakistani visa applicants still have to obtain a ‘sponsorship certificate’ from India]

- Ease visa restrictions for citizens of other countries who are of Indian or Pakistani descent, dual nationals, or expatriates from each other's countries. [Not addressed. Pakistanis living abroad must apply for Indian visas on their Pakistani passports or renounce Pakistani nationality if they want to use their adopted country’s passports]

In addition, the governments must do away with restrictions that are completely outdated in today’s cyber world, and to:

- Allow more than two journalists each to be based in each other’s countries [Not addressed]

- Undo the ban on cell-phone roaming [Not addressed]

- Undo the ban on cross-border media, television and publications [Not addressed]

The authorities must refrain from trying to control the movements of their people, when their minds are free. It is mutual trust and genuine collaboration that will enable us to break from the past and repudiate the legacy of hatred and animosity. We can truly progress when ideas and art, business and tourism, and collaboration in the fields of health, sustainability and poverty alleviation are allowed to flourish and flow. Only then can our people and countries reach their full potential.
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** NOTE: Indians or Pakistanis who give up their original nationality to marry across the border have to go through the same hassle as others to obtain a visa for their original country. Pakistani spouses of Indians do not have automatic residential rights. They get a city specific Long Term Visa (LTV) granted to them as spouses, which requires annual renewal; Outside travel is allowed only once a year, though sometimes waived. But police permission before departure and reporting on arrival is mandatory. Internal travel is also restricted. Police permission before departure and reporting on arrival is required for short term travel. For a long term move, the LTV has to be reissued for the new city. An LTV does not entitle them to work, open a bank account or own property. These facilities are available to non-Indian spouses if they have PIO (Person of Indian Origin) or OCI (Overseas Citizen of India) status. However, no citizen of any country that has a common border with India can get a PIO or OCI status. 

Recent signatures

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    1. Reached 3,000 signatures
    2. Prominent artists, writers, journalists, filmmakers, others, sign petition

      Aman ki Asha Destination Peace
      Petition organiser

      Prominent artists, writers, journalists, filmmakers and academics in India, Pakistan and around the world have signed the ongoing Aman ki Asha online petition against visa restrictions between India and Pakistan.
      http://amankiasha.com/detail_news.asp?id=983

      Aman Ki Asha - Destination Peace

      The Jang Group and The Times of India have come together to develop a stronger Track 2 in the diplomatic and cultural relations between India and Pakistan.

    3. 'Sponsorship certificate' a blow to cricket fans

      Aman ki Asha Destination Peace
      Petition organiser

      Although the 'sponsorship certificate' that India requires for Pakistani visa applicants is not new, cricket fans hoping to attend the cricket series are disappointed at hearing that it will not be relaxed for this occasion. It is worth noting that all Pakistani cricket fans who went to watch the 2011 World Cup semi-final in Mohali returned home.
      We uphold our demand for the governments to:
      • Curtail unnecessary paperwork (India’s requirement of a sponsorship certificate for Pakistani applicants is particularly cumbersome);
      "Local sponsor must for Pakistani cricket fans to get visas" Read more: http://bit.ly/TEKm66

      Local sponsor must for Pakistani cricket fans to get visas

      (The decision to tighten...) NEW DELHI: Pakistani cricket fans keen to visit India to watch the forthcoming India-Pakistan cricket matches in December-January will have to have an Indian sponsor to get a visa.

    4. Reached 1,500 signatures
    5. What the visa nightmare really means for cross border spouses

      Aman ki Asha Destination Peace
      Petition organiser

      "A marriage of inconvenience" - An excellent article by Dhamini Ratnam in the Mumbai Mirror on what the visa nightmare really means for cross border spouses.
      http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.447631208616459.94693.179643805415202&type=3

    6. Good news: Pakistan ratifies the new liberalised visa regime!

      Aman ki Asha Destination Peace
      Petition organiser

      Good news: The newly proposed liberalised Visa regime gets finally approved in Pakistan: http://www.amankiasha.com/detail_news.asp?id=958

      Aman Ki Asha - Destination Peace

      The Jang Group and The Times of India have come together to develop a stronger Track 2 in the diplomatic and cultural relations between India and Pakistan.

    7. Petition updated

      Aman ki Asha Destination Peace
      Petition organiser

      Dear signatories and supporters of India Pakistan peace: our petition has been updated to reflect the changes in the visa regime as well as the issues faced by cross-border spouses. Please do have a look and promote aggressively. Thank you.

    8. "Visa woes of Indo-Pak couples" by Ajaz Ashraf

      Aman ki Asha Destination Peace
      Petition organiser

      Long Term Visa (LTV) is granted to the Pakistani spouses of Indians living in India. It requires renewal every year; it allows them to travel outside India once a year, though this requirement is occasionally waived. A Pakistani spouse must take permission from the police before leaving India, and must on her or his return report to the police.

      Severe restrictions imposed on internal travel include securing the consent of the police and report to them on their return even for a weekend getaway. The LTV is city-specific: if the Pakistani’s husband is transferred to another city, she cannot follow him there; her shift will have to wait until the LTV is reissued naming the new city of residence. The LTV does not entitle spouses to work, open a bank account or own property,

      Read more at "Visa woes of Indo-Pak couples" by Ajaz Ashraf in Daily Times, Sept 14, 2012: http://bit.ly/USs0lM

    9. Pakistan, India sign a landmark liberalized visa agreement

      Aman ki Asha Destination Peace
      Petition organiser

      ISLAMABAD: Pakistan and India Saturday signed a landmark liberalized visa agreement, which will go a long way in mending the fences between both the countries, Geo News reported.
      Interior minister Rehman A Malik and Indian external affairs minister SM Krishna inked the agreement here in Islamabad.
      The new pact offers eight types of visa.
      Under the new agreement citizens, aged 65 and above, would now be able to walk across the border between the two countries and need not go through the hassles of getting a visa from embassies in New Delhi and Islamabad.
      The new visa policy between India and Pakistan has eased restrictions on visitors from both the countries. For more details see http://bit.ly/Pc5jZ2

    10. New, relaxed visa regime a welcome first step…

      Aman ki Asha Destination Peace
      Petition organiser

      We welcome news of the new, more relaxed visa regime that the Indian and Pakistan Foreign Ministers are expected to sign at their meeting in Islamabad on Saturday to replace the outdated visa regime of 1974.

      According to reports, the new agreement will allow multiple-entry and police reporting-free visas for businessmen, allowing them to visit five cities instead of three as at present. It will exempt elderly people from police reporting, allow common people from either country to visit three earmarked cities instead of one, and introduce a visa-on-arrival facility at Wagah for senior citizens (65+ years) and children, and tourist visas for groups of 10 to 50 people coming through registered tour operators. It will also allow movement across LoC to enable Kashmiri pilgrims visit shrines on either side.

      We welcome these developments as a welcome first step. We urge the governments to stay the course, and meet the other demands in our petition.

    11. Reached 1,000 signatures
    12. Aman ki Asha launches online campaign urging governments to let people meet

      Aman ki Asha Destination Peace
      Petition organiser

      by Beena Sarwar

      KARACHI: Aman ki Asha, the peace campaign launched by the Jang Group and the Times of India, has launched an online petition urging the governments to ease the current restrictive visa regime and let people meet.

      The petition titled "Milne Do: India, Pakistan, let people meet" is online at Change.org (http://chn.ge/N5ffmQ). The campaign is being launched just ahead of the visit of the Indian Foreign Minister, S. M. Krishna, to Pakistan on Sept 7, 2012.

      Organizers hope to collect a million signatures by Jan 1, 2013, Aman ki Asha's third anniversary, and to present the petition with a million signatures to the respective Prime Ministers of Pakistan and India...
      More at http://www.amankiasha.com/detail_news.asp?id=886

    13. Reached 500 signatures

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    Reasons for signing

    • shaily iqbal INDIA
      • 2 days ago

      because we (my family and I love both sides of border

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    • Shakil Chaudhary F-11/1, ISLAMABAD, PAKISTAN
      • 4 days ago

      I think peace is needed in South Asia not only to ensure development, but also to avert a nuclear holocaust.

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      • 16 days ago

      We belongs to one family.

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    • Charu Verma INDIA
      • about 1 month ago

      i believe in world peace

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      • about 1 month ago

      Peace and Prosperity go hand in hand. We are wasting billions of dollars buying weapons...SHAME

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