Smartphone Manufacturers: we want modern ANDROID Smartphones with physical keyboard (Slider) !

Smartphone Manufacturers: we want modern ANDROID Smartphones with physical keyboard (Slider) !

    1. Christian Wiesner
    2. Petition by

      Christian Wiesner

      Buxtehude, Germany

English (German version below) :

By starting this petition we strive to convince vendors (Samsung, Motorola, LG, HTC, SONY, etc.) to develop new Android powered smartphones with a physical keyboard (QWERTY slider).

Customers who are not willing to use touchscreen input methods have no option but to stick with their antiquated devices as in some regions no modern smartphones are released featuring a hardware keyboard. This is inacceptable from our point of view as physical input is still a necessity for advanced and convenient communication; especially in business scenarios, touch typing can never be an adequate replacement.

Some European customers are even willing to buy used recent devices on eBay and other platforms and import them from North America at their own risk, sometimes including hardware modifications (i.e. custom soldered SIM card slot).

With this petition we seek to demonstrate to the smartphone vendors that there are in fact a lot of potential customers willing to acquire such devices, hoping the companies will understand the market potential and launch new, modern Android powered smartphones coming with a hardware keyboard and slider mechanism.

Please vote for us if you share our interest!



Deutsch:

Wir wollen die großen Smartphone-Hersteller (Samsung, Motorola, LG, HTC, SONY, etc.) davon überzeugen, moderne Android-Geräte mit einer integrierten Hardwaretastatur anzubieten (QWERTZ/QWERTY Slider).

Kunden, die keine Bildschirmeingabe verwenden wollen, können derzeit kein aktuelles Gerät erwerben, da in der jeweiligen Region keine neuen Modelle mehr angeboten werden. Das ist aus unserer Sicht nicht akzeptabel, da eine echte Tastatur nach wie vor unersetzlich für umfangreichere und bequeme Kommunikation ist. Speziell im geschäftlichen Umfeld wird die Eingabemethode mittels Hardwaretastatur geschätzt.

Einige europäische Kunden erwerben derzeit unter Verzicht auf Garantie aus Nordamerika gebrauchte Geräte und importieren diese anschließend; ggf. wird dazu sogar eine Hardwaremodifikation in vorgenommen (etwa das Auflöten eines SIM-Kartenslots).

Mit dieser Petition hoffen wir, ausreichend Unterstützer finden zu können, um die Marktbedarfe in Europa nach Android-Geräten mit physikalischer Tastatur aufzeigen zu können. Den Herstellern aufgezeigt werden, dass das Potenzial von modernen Smartphones mit Hardwaretastatur größer ist als eine bloßes Nischenprodukt. 

Bitte unterstützen Sie daher diese Petition mit Ihrer Stimme, um uns in unserem gemeinsamen Interesse voranzubringen.

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    1. The 'big party' at SPRINT to which nobody ever came ?

      Christian Wiesner
      Petition Organizer

      Dear Supporters, dear Friends,

      you haven't heard from me for a while, but we are still active on our common case. When i was searching the internet this morning, trying to spot a new Android device with physical keyboard, i stumbled across this article again :

      http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/15/5104704/i-come-not-to-praise-qwerty-but-to-bury-it

      It is in fact an interesting article, one of the few (if not the only) who are really trying to put some light onto what happened with the QWERTY keyboard in modern smartphones. The author is giving information on the failure of the Motorola Photon Q (XT897) and the LG Mach in the SPRINT network, which were basically responsible for the decisions of all smartphone manufacturers to bury the QWERTY keybord.

      One key phrase in the article is the following :

      [quote]
      I wasn't totally buying that the world abandoned the idea of physical keyboards overnight. It seemed more likely to me that the cellular industry never gave them a choice.

      For the past several years, buying a smartphone with a QWERTY keyboard has meant settling for less than the latest and greatest technology on the market. When my Droid 4 launched in February 2012, it had already been completely outspecced and outclassed by devices with better screens. Arguably, there hasn't been a top-tier smartphone with a physical keyboard since the Samsung Epic 4G set a new high bar for Android devices in August, 2010. The carriers had decided to treat QWERTY sliders as messaging phones for teens rather than tools of the elite, and adjusted their asks and advertising respectively.
      [/quote]

      For me, this is the key to understand what had actually happened. At the time when the Photon Q and the LG Mach were launched, people were used to the fact that new Android models would pop up every single month of the year, so why should they believe that these models were the last to ever come with a physical keyboard ?

      The smartphone industry finally should understand that the failure of these two models in the SPRINT network was not a failure of the QWERTY keyboard concept, but simply the reaction of the potential customers towards two new phones which were launched into the market with completely outdates specs (dual core processors, old Android versions, etc.) at the first day of their appearance.

      One could laugh about the fact that these models, or at least one of the two (the Photon Q / XT 897), which actually caused this desaster for the QWERTY lovers, are now the best models we can buy for our money. Yes, we could laugh about it, if it wasn't such a tragedy ......

      I come not to praise QWERTY, but to bury it

      The once-vaunted smartphone keyboard is the victim of a fickle market I bought a Droid 4 twenty-one months ago. As a devout user of physical QWERTY keyboards, I'm pretty sure I'm screwed. My two-year contract expires in just three more months, but I don't know if my phone will make it.

    2. Reached 750 signatures
    3. New LG Optimus F3Q with QWERTY keyboard leaked in the USA

      Christian Wiesner
      Petition Organizer
      LG Optimus F3Q leaked: QWERTY landscape slider

      Lewis Curdie Jan. 17 at 12:00Oddly, just the other day, eggy80 asked: "What was the most recent Android phone with a QWERTY keyboard? I'd love an HTC Desire Z style phone!" Well, it's been incredibly quiet on the QWERTY Android front of late, but his/her prayers have seemingly been answered with a little something called the LG Optimus F3Q, the first QWERTY landscape slider in what feels like decades.

    4. Reached 500 signatures
    5. A great article on the obstacles for QWERTY smartphones

      Christian Wiesner
      Petition Organizer

      http://www.theverge.com/2013/11/15/5104704/i-come-not-to-praise-qwerty-but-to-bury-it

      There is a number of articles i read in the past on the potential future of QWERTY smartphones, but none was as much to the point as this one is. I fully agree, the real reason why there sees to be 'no market' for such phones is simply because there were no top-spec phones with physical keyboard launched since more than 3 years !

      For sure, a HTC One or Galaxy S4 or Xperia Z with physical keyboard would fine a big number of customers, as long as the extra cost for the keyboard are reasonable, of course.

      Anyhow, i just received message from Tomas Prochazka, the inventor of the SIM card mod for the Motorola Photon Q, that my 3 phones which i sent to him are ready modded, and will be in the post back to me on Monday. My plan is to use one of the three for myself, keep one as a backup and sell the third phone on ebay, to recover some of my cost for the action. Stay tuned !

      I come not to praise QWERTY, but to bury it

      The once-vaunted smartphone keyboard is the victim of a fickle market I bought a Droid 4 twenty-one months ago. As a devout user of physical QWERTY keyboards, I'm pretty sure I'm screwed. My two-year contract expires in just three more months, but I don't know if my phone will make it.

    6. Facebook Page with the same goal as our petition

      Christian Wiesner
      Petition Organizer

      Hi, in case you are having a facebook account, you may consider to also give this site here a 'Like', they seem to be having the same goal as us :

      https://www.facebook.com/QwertyAndroidPhonesEurope

      Bring back the physical keyboard in our European Android Phone

      Bring back the physical keyboard in our European Android Phone. 515 likes · 3 talking about this. This Facebook page is for all you physical keyboard Android Phones lovers. Maybe some manufacturers will open their eyes and bring out some decent physical QWERTY Android devices in Europe!

    7. Rumours about new MOTOROLA Droid 5 with keyboard going through the internet

      Christian Wiesner
      Petition Organizer

      Hi, it seems that there is light at the end of the tunnel, fotos of a potential MOTOROLA Droid 5 have been leaked in the internet :

      http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57602454-251/early-motorola-droid-5-details-and-photos-emerge/

      http://www.androidnext.de/news/motorola-droid-5-bilder-zeigen-smartphone-mit-volltastatur-slider/

      There can be no doubt that the new Droid 5 will be mine, should Motorola decide to launch it in Europe as well. While the fotos below are showing a Verizon branded model, it should be expected that they will launch the Droid 5 at the same time, or soon after the Verizon launch, to sell as many units as possible.

      In the meantime i have now bought myself a Photon Q in the US, i will import it to Europe and have it modified in Prague, CZ, so that i can use an ordinary SIM card with it. There is a thread on xda-developers about this, the maker of the mod is Tomas from Prague (CornholioGSM), the mod costs 70,- € if he does it.

      Early Motorola Droid 5 details and photos emerge?

      If recent leaks are any indication, the fifth generation of sliding QWERTY smartphone may soon touch down at Verizon. (Credit: NewCellPhonesBlog) Don't look now, but we might soon have the fifth generation of Motorola's sliding QWERTY Droid smartphone.

    8. Reached 250 signatures
    9. Die Ohnmacht der Swift-Key-Freaks

      Christian Wiesner
      Petition Organizer

      Kurzes Update :

      Den Swiftkey-Fans muss unsere Petition wohl ein absoluter Dorn im Auge sein, sehr wahrscheinlich können Sie den Gedanken überhaupt nicht ertragen eventuell kein echter 'Power-User' zu sein, nur weil sie der Freundin viele kurze Text-Messages auf dem Bildschirm tippen ?

      Anders lässt es sich nicht erklären, das der Petitions-Text auf dem bekannten Internet-Forum 'android-hilfe.de' mittlerweile für 'unseriös' erklärt wurde, da er zu viele Aufrufezeichen enthält (nachzulesen hier : http://www.android-hilfe.de/smalltalk-offtopic/435923-aufruf-kann-eine-online-petition-bzgl-modernem-qwertz-slider-eu-starten-4.html#post6036781).

      Wie zu erwarten war nimmt die Anzahl der Befürworter nun täglich zu, es scheint als ob die anfängliche Zurückhaltung wegen zu wenig Stimmen nun langsam zurückgeht, die Leute trauen sich nun, uns Ihre Stimme zu leihen. Bei Überschreiten der 100-Stimmen-Grenze werde ich Meldung machen !

      AUFRUF : Wer kann eine Online-Petition bzgl. modernem QWERTZ Slider in EU starten ? - Seite 4 - Android-Hilfe.de

      Zitat: Zitat von the-unknown du schreibst 69 benötigt. wie kommst du auf die zahl und ist das nicht ein bisschen wenig? Das macht change.org, nicht

    10. Reached 50 signatures
    11. Petition abgeändert, nicht mehr spezifisch auf Europa abgestellt !

      Christian Wiesner
      Petition Organizer

      Liebe Unterstützer,

      auf vielfachen Wunsch habe ich die Petition abgeändert, sie vertritt nun auch die Interessen der globalen Anhänger von Tastaturen. Ich hoffe sehr dass niemand sich an der neuen Ausrichtung stört, wenn doch dann sollte es möglich sein Ihre Stimme nachträglich auch wieder zu entfernen.

      Nach wie vor läuft die Petition leider nur langsam an, ich darf Sie daher nochmal um Ihre Unterstützung bitten was die Verbreitung derselben betrifft !

      Vielen Dank !

      C. Wiesner

    12. Reached 25 signatures
    13. Die wichtigen 10 ersten Unterschriften sind geschafft !

      Christian Wiesner
      Petition Organizer

      Super ! Die ersten 10 Unterschriften für die Petition sind geschafft !

      Da es bekannt ist dass die Leute nur selten den Mut haben, Wegbereiter zu sein, sind diese ersten 10 Unterschriften die wichtigsten. Ab jetzt werden die Leute weniger Hemmungen haben uns ihre Stimme zu geben, da sie ja nicht mehr die einzigen sind :-) ....

      Jetzt liegt es an uns, die nächsten Unterstützer einzuladen um so die notwendige Lawine loszutreten. Ich darf Sie daher bitten Ihre Facebook accounts, beliebte Foren, Blogs, etc. zu verwenden um die Öffentlichkeit auf unser Unterfangen aufmerksam zu machen.

      Sind dann erst 100 Unterschriften gesammelt, geht es meistens auch flott weiter ;-) .... Ich habe dazu u.A. auf Xing in wichtigen IT-Foren mit >70.000 Mitgliedern gepostet, ich erwarte daher einen ziemlichen Schub Montag morgen. Wenn Sie das Ihre dazu tun, werden wir die Petition erfolgreich zu Ende bringen, und etwas bewegt haben !! :-D

      Vielen Dank !

      C. Wiesner

    14. Reached 10 signatures

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    Reasons for signing

    • Erik Vogelgsang GERMANY
      • 4 days ago

      Ich kann mein Xperia pro wegen veralteter Hardware nicht mehr richtig nutzen komme aber mit den virtuellen Tastaturen gängiger Smartphones nicht richtig zurecht. Ein aktuelles Gerät mit physikalischen Tasten ist in Europa nicht auf dem Markt!

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    • vishal maru MUMBAI, INDIA
      • 5 days ago

      For me speed, accuracy and convenience to type is important.

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    • Sandra Unger GRAZ, AUSTRIA
      • 5 days ago

      Ich will ein Smartphone wie das LG Optius F3Q in in Europa. Habe immer schon QWERTY Slider geliebt. Ich weigere mich dann ein "normales Smartphone" zu kaufen- ich bin stur und finde das gut so.

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    • Arnold Wells SAUK RAPIDS, MN
      • 7 days ago

      You cannot use voice to text while music is playing

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    • Tamas Pataki LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM
      • 8 days ago

      I'm a systems Admin, I will be so nice to be able to ssh connect remotely to servers without carrying a laptop.

      For me the best ever made model was the Sony Xperia X1.. even sending text messages was more fun.

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