Withdraw all Australian Defence Forces from Afghanistan immediately
  • Petitioned Commonwealth of Australia, Federal Government

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Commonwealth of Australia, Federal Government

Withdraw all Australian Defence Forces from Afghanistan immediately

    1. Damian Ellwood
    2. Petition by

      Damian Ellwood

      Surrey Hills, Australia

Because the mission, to the extent that any mission has been determined, is utterly unattainable. The Afghan Government, both national and regional is corrupt. It is incapable of governing in any form as we understand 'government'. The Afghan Army is penetrated by 'enemies' of all kinds, both secular and religious. ADF cannot function effectively in an environment where we cannot trust our 'allies' in the field. There are better ways to fight international terrorism. Our resources can be more effectively used.

The time has come tonight [30th August] with the news of yet more green-on-blue to face the reality of Afghanistan and the war on terror. The Australian Government has no proper mission to achieve. It never had. The bravery of ADF is not in question. They are doing the best they can in an impossible situation and their best is very good indeed. But the situation - as usual - is one which intellectually lazy politicians continue to advocate. Today, again, the Prime Minister tells us the mission is to train the Afghan Army. But who exactly IS the Afghan Army? Repeatedly we find the enemy is within the ranks of that army. While they kill and maim our troops, sleepers will also be feeding intelligence to the enemy, learning our base layouts, our unit strengths and our mission planning, not to mention that we are, apparently, training the enemy in modern battlefield tactics, weapons and communications. They must be laughing all the way to Peshawar

Recent signatures

    News

    1. Out in December 2012 - well not quite

      Damian Ellwood
      Petition Organizer

      Minister Smith has chosen a NATO audience in Brussels, rather than a door-stop interview in Canberra, to announce that our troops will be out by December THIS YEAR. Well they say you should always check what the conjurer's other hand is doing. Apparently that withdrawal will not include our special forces, the S.A.S. and the Commando units, the ones who are at the sharp edge of this miserable little war. Why not? Well the Honourable Minister was not forthcoming on that.

      This announcement comes only a week or so after the International Crisis Group and the Red Cross announced their assessments of the very real probability that Afghanistan would descend again into chaos and Taliban rule - interchangeable descriptions - once I.S.A.F. forces were withdrawn. So the question has to be asked. If the mission is really to put Afghan forces in a position to provide security in their own country without outside support, why are we leaving? If it is not that, why are we there at all?

    2. Reached 10 signatures
    3. U.S. Army study of 'green on blue' fratricide - thanks to The Age

      Damian Ellwood
      Petition Organizer

      Tom Hyland, International Affairs writer for the Sunday Age wrote a lengthy piece in The Age of 31 August 2012 which you can find on-line. In it he refers to a U.S. report of 2011 on the reasons for fratricide killings. The statistics are chilling on the rate of increase of non-IED deaths of ISAF forces. The report is unclassified and ought to be read by everyone concerned with our continued presence in Afghanistan. Titled 'A Crisis of Trust and Cultural Incompatability' it demonstrates to my mind the impossibility of attaining anything like a stable government in that country in our lifetime. The cultural and educational chasm between that country and the West is - outside of Kabul - beyond our ken and it is outside Kabul where the battle is not being won despite the platitudes from Western plitical leaders.

    4. Reached 5 signatures
    5. Professor Maley's views (with thanks to ABC Live blog)

      Damian Ellwood
      Petition Organizer

      Australia's pre-eminent authority on Afghanistan, Professor William Maley, says the seeds of the latest tragedy were sewn in early 2003, when the Afghan mission took second stage to Iraq. He says that strategic blunder has blighted the mission ever since, warning there is a risk the Afghan army will "crack up" once the Coalition forces leave in 2014.
      Professor Maley told PM's Alexandra Kirk the Taliban for at least a year have had an official policy of trying to infiltrate the Afghan security forces so they can carry out attacks like the one last night. From the Taliban's point of view, these kinds of attacks are politically positive, not just because they unsettle the public in contributing countries such as Australia, but they also create in the minds of ordinary people in Afghanistan the sense that the Taliban are strong and that the international forces are weak.

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    Reasons for signing

    • Christine Cole PELICAN WATERS, AUSTRALIA
      • almost 2 years ago

      The war on terror is a fraud. Australia should not be involved in the crimes of the U.S Government. This is not war going on in Afghanistan it the bullying agenda of the USA Government for their own financial gains and empowerment. Australia and UK need to back away from U.S war tactics.

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    • Michael Day KEYSBOROUGH, AUSTRALIA
      • about 2 years ago

      We should not be wasting our diggers lives fighting this futile war that cannot be won because there is no government prepared to do what is necessary to win it..that is nuke the whole bloody country and while there about it..Pakistan too. That'll eliminate 90% of the worlds terrorists.

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    • Brooke Kuipers BUNBURY, AUSTRALIA
      • about 2 years ago

      Because my people are dying out there. Though not all of them are dead per say, a part of them is inside. The Afghan army needs to sort itself out before getting help from us. Their own army is running around infiltrated with enemies who're waiting for the time where they can turn around and stab us in the back. Our soldiers are out there needing to watch every person around them. How can they distinguish friend from foe? Anyone is an enemy capable of killing them.

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    • Amanda Ellwood SURREY HILLS, AUSTRALIA
      • about 2 years ago

      All the reasons are there in the petition. Ordinary people, good people are being sent to lose their lives in a "war" that our politicians are too weak to withdraw from. Our soldiers are in increasing danger and are being forced to train their eventual killers.

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    • Tracey Nimmo VANCOUVER, CANADA
      • about 2 years ago

      terrible ,unessecary ,violent.

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