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Plausible commented on the article |I agree that she should be eligible for parole. I also agree that she should be punished - this isn't a script, not a movie, you can't just kill someone, the police wouldn't be allowed to kill him if they caught him mid-rape. If the case were such that he was raping her, she defended herself, was able to wound him to where he was immobilized and no longer harming her, if she continued and killed him... that is a separate issue from self-defense. But, emotionally, I must say it is satisfying to imagine her getting this revenge.
I have checked the other blog, linked in the first few sentences of the first paragraph of this blog, and neither elucidate how she actually killed this person. That is vital in sentencing.
Amongst everyone who has commented on both of these, the only other person to take a direct interest in the actual event that has put her in prison (the murder) is Yumnah Aguba-El, who asked for the information above.
For everyone's sake, look for holes in the stories you're given so your opinion is based on the crux of the story, and not spend time arguing about emotional tangents like how one feels about abuse, prostitution, etc. This is about murder.
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Plausible commented on the article |Hello,
Prostitution was legalized in the Netherlands, Amsterdam (home of legalized marijuana, all of that superficially exciting stuff) in 1988.
Here's a habit everyone could benefit from, including the creator of this video itself, citing the sources and including all necessary information:
http://www.dutchamsterdam.nl/585-amsterdam-prostitute-stabbed-death
This publication states the recent stabbing of a 19 year-old prostitute being the 13th death of a prostitute since 1988. 13 deaths in 21 years.
This is not to say I feel prostitution should be legalized, or cognitively focused on, unless we would truly want to exhaust all areas, all perspectives. As tempted as I am to give into your pattern, Gabriel, of creating several slippery slopes to seemingly overwhelm the reader with morally-laden, sourceless claims of how the future would pan out were we to give into this 'sin' of legalization, I would much rather prefer to cite something very f----ing important to this entire thread:
Evaluating all perspectives, starting at the source of our discussion (Sarah); we have gained the sense of credibility, intelligence, overall moral sentience she possesses. The two things that bother me the most about this are as follows, and I would prefer the first item be ignored:
1. Music is manipulative and isn't necessary if the case speaks for itself. Please understand I find Sarah's story emotionally touching, it makes me wish I were there to have helped her out. The music in this runner makes me wonder why it was added at all, it isn't necessary. It's a post-production thing.
2. ******* The actual case wasn't discussed. I have no sense of what happened in that courtroom, or what truly precipitated it. She didn't get charged with murder for being a 13 year-old prostitute who was sexually abused, she was charged with murder for murdering someone. Did I miss something? How did she kill this man?
From the information I HAVE been provided with, it is such that this judge (who may have been racist, judgmental, et. al) apparently felt that this 13 year-old's methods were emergent enough, well-thought-out enough, to be tried as an adult. Once again, I truly have no idea what this entails, and therefore the heated discussion being placed on emotional topics such as "How could this happen," "How could you feel that way about prostitution," completely misses the point.
The points presented to us are that despite her situation, despite the horrible upbringing, the trauma she endured, and its ultimate manifestation in the form of ending her tormentors umbrella of abuse... the judge still felt she deserved this.
We can delve deep into our insecurities of sexuality, about the very imbalance of masculinity vs. femininity, and how the former always tends to abuse the latter, revealing plenty about our own problems, but the PROBLEM I HAVE is that I just had an emotional trip with music that tried to tell me more about the story than the words itself.
If we can delve into the minutaie of all precipitants, and intertwine our rhetorical inconsistencies into oblivion, I think we can turn our attention to whatever moved the judge to the point of causing us to discuss this in the first place: how did this man die.
Then we should discuss the validity of sexuality converted to a monetary means, discuss the validity of moral relativism and actually pull ourselves out of Western-based thought and discover how people in other areas of the world cope with situations potentially more dire than a ghetto in America.
Legalizing prostitution very well may clean up both our legal system, the streets, the participants, but may invariably bring its new viability to the forefront and morph our views of sexuality. This might be a good thing, it may extinguish desires of jealousy, knowing that all are equal and not some particular attribute, level of intelligence, class status, breast or penis size, will determine the sexual acceptance from one person to another. Those unwilling to imagine clean individuals participating in these things, those locked into the zeitgeist that prostitution is purely dirty and that only the perverse could cope with such morally convoluted situations that mirror the entanglement of their own psyche.
When I gained access to the Internet at the age of 14, being a curious and sexually accepting person even then, I searched for archives of information on sexuality. From Tantra, to whatever tutorial I could find on sexual ability. Cunnilingus tutorials for example, or how to kiss well (www.rom-101.com is a romance website, which I also studied as a freshman in highschool). I eventually researched the book "The Hite Report" by Sherry Hite, at age 16. It is a questionairre of mannny detailed, scientific questions about the nature of relationships, sexuality, climax, frigility, lesbianism.. whatever topic so fascinating to a teenager but cannot find the right volume with it all condensed. Not only this but each question contains responses from tens to hundreds of women, all whose response varies vastly from "which direction this feels good from" to "why I haven't had an orgasm yet at age 70." Why am I citing this? Because a curious mind should find real sources, find the real information, and not just worry about the emotional content which is a manifestation of our evolved brains, trying to weave a beautiful mysticism around something inherently biological. It is from this separation of the emotional, the biological, that one can start to evaluate the separate moral climates that others approach how they deal with their sexuality in tandem with their current lifestyle.
There's way more to all of this, everything, including what Sarah really has to say.
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