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  • A Right to Breed? What Are You Smoking?
    Ethan commented on the article | over 3 years ago

    Ok Alex, since Ive gone beyond the scope anyway, why you refer to the topic/arguments here as "our" why dont I see a byline for you? If you are saying I am drawing assumptions then its funny I did not assume you were on the side of Stephanie..in fact you didnt post prior to that and why should I look at any archive for your sake?

    I'll be blunt, this whole breeding, right to own nonsense comes down to the fact that we rely too heavily on dogs and other companion-like animals. There are the many people who truly need them I understand that, though now we have gone from protecting them from uneccessary and even neccessary euthanization to controlling the way owners breed them? "most private, personal events any animal-the human included.." Geez Stephanie? Its this whole equating dogs to humans stuff that kills me. Dogs if not neutered will reproduce over a 7-8 year period. THATS A LOT OF PERSONAL EVENT-ING Steph. You know what they do in China and Korea now thats great. They have prevented humans from overpopulating becuase its smart responsible governing. So why dont you just start that whole uncomfortable "for another day" conversation now becuase you know if dogs are left to their own devices which theyll love theyll push out 100 kids..times how many dogs in the world..wow were going to be ruled by mutts soon arent we? It is a no win situation becuase if they are controlled and held back and "domnesticated" by humans they will just whine and whimper and bark...name your poison. Maybe I'll move to Korea where they seem to have a more sane perspective on life and they'll just serve them for lunch after they play baseball with their bodies :-) Theres a trip you and Alex can take!

    Back to you Alex..I think we have reached an impasse of sorts with this banter. You try to persuade those who obviously arent on the side of the author or you becuase we "havent read the AR literature." Truth is, this is not even a debate its a one sided judgment, no one needs your bombastic commentary on why we're illeterate, uneducated, and other things. You are a pseudo-intellect that is grossly out of touch with the world.  

    OH and by the the way, Mountain Lions ARE Omnivorous!! And PLEASE visit China some day it will change your life!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0AUaFM-uPU

    bon apetit!


  • A Right to Breed? What Are You Smoking?
    Ethan commented on the article | over 3 years ago

    "Like Katheleen Ethan, your argument isn't predicated on our arguments but on your own assumptions about our arguments. That's just bad reasoning. "

    Prior to that statement Alex, I did not see an argument of yours. I didnt see much less an original thought...

  • A Right to Breed? What Are You Smoking?
    Ethan commented on the article | over 3 years ago

    Alex (.edu Ph.D guy)

    Im sorry to interrupt you as you grade term papers on humpback whale research as well as try and intimidate others on this site. Dont want things to get too tough for you at the ivory tower.

    Alex, in essence your comments are pretty much a Darwinian approach to discussion. You exercise your 1600 SAT mind to not persuade but to pick on "Weaker" postings and insist they have no basis when the point of this forum is open expression. You're going to hunt clay pigeons with a grenade launcher.

    Anyway, on to my argument on the irrelevance of Animal rights as a discussion peice, cause, legislation, etc. I say this becuase it involves the interraction of animals (productive or counterproductive) of any species with different levels of physical and mental capabilities.

    Humans are held to a higher standard in this regard becuase we are the only known animal that has a constitution, laws, monetary systems, etc. It is absoultely a choice a lion (an animal that does not have to eat meat) has to make to either hunt a zebra or eat leaves from a tree. If he or she chooses to eat the zebra that is perfectly acceptable. He is using his greater stature and intellegence to hunt his prey. No Lion has been fined 2,000 dollars with a max 2 year sentence for killing a poor zebra..has it? A Bear may eat a human under the same circumstances...the guy's buddies might shoot it afterwards, but the bear was bigger and stronger and faster and used that to overcome any shortfalls the bear may have.

    People need to eat. People are animals but it is because we are so removed from our primative roots and have that inner need to govern and be governed is why we create such a double standard with regard to our role in the animal kingdom.

    I think I made myself pretty clear Alex et al. Im sorry to have wasted your time. Next time I'll but down the Maxim and read Tolstoy you smug jerk.


  • A Right to Breed? What Are You Smoking?
    Ethan commented on the article | over 3 years ago

    Heres my thing with animal rights....its INCONSISTENT!! Why does Sarah McLaughlin have to make a nauseating song of dog abuse but the fact that cows get processed every day is just a matter of life. I'll even say anything people domesticate seems to fall under the abuse category. I am not concerned that dogs have this "companionship" element to them. I know a family that raised a pig to be domesticated. How much you want to bet if that pig was walking around a farm and someone wanted bacon theyd cut it up no questions asked. Not in a house though, it always makes things more criminal. Any animal, even humans are fit for consumption. I have no problem with  Korean dog slaughter, or animal trapping for sport. We are the more intellegent species, we will exercise our power over lesser beings like they to others...signed sealed delivered. Your local news is next.

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