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Linda commented on the article |If you eat things that your GI tract is not prepared to handle, you will give off mehtane, just like ANY rumenant that eats an unnatural diet. Grain is not naturally a part of a rumenants food plan. My cattle will eat a stem that has a seed head. But, when it gets to the end w/ the seeds, it drops it. They have to be taught to eat grain... it is NOT natural for them!
As to harvesting methane. Anyone who is inhumane enough to feed grain in the first place, I have no doubt that they would also restrict the movements of the animals to hook them up to collectors. Something very similar has been done before. Look athttp://www.premarin.org/ Premarin (taken by many animal rights grandmothers) was made by collecting urine from horses who were confined in stalls where they were confined for their pregnancies. They were required to stand, so the catheters would stay in. Their water intake was restricted, to concentrate the urine. That reduces the amount of amnio fluid. Premarin mares often die in foaling. This is not to say that cattle would die from having methane collected. But, it would, imvho, be very inhumane. Why not just stop them from producing methane & put them out on a pasture only diet? -
Linda commented on the article |
Debra,
I can tell you how much it takes to feed all 19 of my cattle, my 92 hseep/goats & my 4 pigs... ZERO grains/ounces/whatever. They are totally pasture fed, they eat whatever is out there, as is natural for them. -
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I'll talk about it. SOME animals cause environmental problems. Animals that eat grains that are NOT a part of their diet get indigestion. This is caused by the pH of the rumen being changed to be too acid. This causes extreme pain to the cattle, leading to death in time. If the intestinal wall is perforated by the acid, e.coli gets into the meat. Another by product of the acid condition is methane gas.
BUT.... gass fed cattle do NOT produce mehtane, they do NOT (usuall) die horrible deaths. MOST of them are NOT processed at USDA facilities. They are killed in the pasture they live in, never knowing what's coming. One minute a friend is walking toward them w/ a stick. The stick makes a noise & it's over. The animal's pasture mates know that the stick makes a noise that they don't like, so they move away & can't understand why one of their pasture mates is sleeping.
Pasture raised meat is far more humane, unless the USDA is involved. When the government or BigAg gets involved. Things get pretty inhumane pretty quick. I won't eat commerciall produced meat. I raise my own meat, in the most humane manner possible. -
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No, it doesn't matter if you raise Organiclly or conventionally. What matters if is you give them GRAIN!!! Grian is not a natural food of rumenants... orgaic or conventionally raised grain, it doesn't matter. The stuff that grows in the pasture, grasses, forbs, weeds, clovers.... THAT is the natural diet of a a pasture animal. If you feed them grains, the pH in the digestive tract drops.
What happens to you if YOU get an acid stomach? You get gas, just like a cow! THAT is the problem! MY cattle do NOT have a significant amount of gas. They have no more than you or I. It is not normal or natural for cattle to have gas. It is unnatural & cruel to put the cattle thru that! It is the cause of many cattle not being able to walk when they get to the slaughter house. The acid GI tract that they've had their entire lives fianlly eats thru their intestine wall. That's when they rush the animal to slaughter, before it dies. The intestinal content is spilling out into the abdomen. If you had your intesional content flooding your abdomen, could YOU walk?
Pasture animals, who life on pasture, don't have this problem. They are happy & healthy. MY animals NEVER see a peice of grain that isn't attached to a plant. They might eat the plant, but they leave the seed head for the chickens.
Would you have me kill my 18 cattle and 92 sheep & goats? They are happy & healthy living out on my pasture, with never a bite of grain & never a gas problem. -
Linda commented on the article |Thank you Tim.
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Linda commented on the article |
You should live in my town. In the last 5 yrs, we've had a 5% increase in population & a 34% increase in city workers, the city payroll has gone up by 50%. We have 17 firefighters making over $200K a year. Now, don't get me wrong... firefighters DO deserve to be well paid! But, how many communities have all volunteer fire depts? All new homes for the last 10 yrs have been required to have fire suppression systems. The prime function of fire'fighters' in my community is as inspectors. And... the more paper they push, the higher their pay. Salaried managers in my city get overtime! I'm working on the campaign of the former chief of PD who's running for city council to try to stop the madness!!!
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But, who decides what the criteria for being "diligent about trying to meet obligations" is? I had a tenant who contantly told me she was doing the best she could to pay her rent. She drove a nicer car than I did, if I pointed it out she asked me if she was supposed ot walk everywhere. She had a new, big plasma TV w/ high end cable. She had 2 poodles that had not only poodle cuts, but sculptured cuts. She said they were expensive dogs & deserved to have nice cuts. But, she couldn't afford to pay her rent. She constantly told me she was doing the BEST she could!!! She thought me totally unreasonable to tell her she didn't need to cut her dogs at all, or watch TV & she could take the bus. She also called me criminal when I evicted her. She quit several jobs because she didn't like the way they treated her.
You can't require a business to give charity by helping customers & at the same time require them to invest responsibly. The Dem congreass required banks to lend to low income home buyers, that's why the banks are in this mess.
Those of us who would rather let the car be repo'd or give up our bedrooms to renters are not under foreclosure. I knew a guy who lived in a big house, by himself w/ 4 empty bedrooms. He was whining about not being able to make his payments because the bank wouldn't work w/ him. I suggested he make the payment by renting the rooms. He siad he wouldn't feel comfortable having strangers living in his house. He got angry when I asked if he'd be more comfortable living under a freeway bridge. He felt his 'right' to live the good life was more important than the investors right to a return on their money.
What catagory would you put him in? He & my tenant certainly thought they were qutie diligent about trying to meet their obligations. All they wanted was that which it was their RIGHT to have. -
Linda commented on the article |
I can find an 'expert' to tell you the moon is made of green cheese too. Doesn't mean it's so.
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Linda commented on the article |
I think the people in this country need to look at the conduct of the citizens of Rome right before she fell. We are spending the Capital that it took our country over 200 years to build.
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Linda commented on the article |
So, Melvin...You don't shop at Walmart?
I didn't buy from Walmart, in fact... I'd never stepped inside a Walmart, until... I was at a local mercants shop, spending more monty to buy something than I'd ahve paid at Walmart. There was a conversation between the person helping me & the owner of the store. The owner was giving a party & needed some supplies. My salesperson mentioned that Walmart had them at the best price. The owner mentioned that she's stop by Walmart on the way home. I mentioned that they were also available at a locally owned shop & they both laughed and said, "Walmart is cheaper!" I stood up & told them that Walmart was cheaper for the product I was buying from them as well. They looked shocked that I'd buy that particular thing at WM. I told themthat I'd been willing to buy it from them because I supported buying local, but if they didn't care I didn't know why I should. They couldn't understand how I could think that they shouldn't buy from WM or how I could not buy from them & buy from WM instead. I held out until this same basic thing happend a few times. Now, I shop at WM as well. I go there a couple times a year.
Mostly I am self sufficient. My neighbors look down on me for it, but I grow nearly all my own food. I drive an old but reliable car & do my own repairs on my house. I rarely hand out money for others to do what I can do. I rent out all the rooms in my house to pay the mortgage. I do, to get by, what others are not willing to do. But, I've been able to keep my house, even tho I lost my job 9 months ago.
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