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  • Killing the Lions to Save the Deer--To Kill the Deer
    Samuel commented on the article | almost 3 years ago

    I think that the issue of whether injustice and violence imposed on certain (groups of) individuals leads (or can lead) to the imposition of injustice and violence on others is a very interesting topic, but way more complex than what the generalizations I've read on this thread suggest.

    An animal rights advocate (or an 'evolutionist')need not be less empathetic to humans - especially when we are very well aware that humans are animals!

    Also, a 'creationist' or some other anthropocentric individual need not be either an egalitarian in regards to all-humans (there's no need to explain this in regards to the relationship between religion and human oppression), or a careless individual in regards to other humans-or even to all other animals.

    Perhaps some animal rights advocates can develop some kind of misanthropy when they become more and more aware of the vast amount of injustice that many humans impose on other individuals. Perhaps some human-centered individuals can get crueler and more violent towards humans due to their cruelty and violence towards other animals (like someone who tortures other animals for fun, or maybe someone who works at a slaughterhouse, etc.)

    But these aren't characteristics than can be generalized so easily. For example, it's not so clear to me how a nonvegan can become a cruel and selfish individual just because he/she eats/wear animal products, especially when he/she isn't involved in the direct (i.e. face-to-face) exploitation of other animals.

    In any case (and since I've extended too much already), I agree with the argument written in this article I read a while ago, which I found very interesting, reasonable and coherent:

    http://unpopularveganessays.blogspot.com/2009/01/gentleness-kindness-in-groups-and-out.html

    Take a look!

    Michael Langley, from the little I've read from you, you seem like a reasonable individual, and though I understand why you might have been annoyed by some comments, I don't understand your last comments in your last post.

    What 'fantasy' are you talking about? Could you elaborate?

    With respect,

    Samuel.

  • Go vegan!
    Samuel signed the petition | almost 3 years ago
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