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Philosophia commented on the article |Most of these places use sweatshop labor.
Vegetarian Shoes brand ftw. Union and they actually last forever. They are expensive but they'll last the amount of time that 5 pairs of cheap china-made ones will.
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Philosophia commented on the article |I find it ridiculous that so many people in the animal rights community are actually supporting this.
I wrote a full entry about it here (rather than reiterate): http://arphilosophia.blogspot.com/2010/02/animal-abuse-registries-will-make.html
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Philosophia commented on the article |And PS, yes I would wear a human hair sweater until it ran out provided it was not as itchy as I think it would be.
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Philosophia commented on the article |
No one here is objecting to someone disliking wearing animals.
I dislike wearing leather so I don't wear it. I will wear old wool though because it doesn't bug me as much. This isn't rational but who cares, it's old.
This thread is about people judging other people and completely ignoring class and income issues. This is about people being vegan police and showing that they think it is more important to have everything vegan than it is to respect the very wasteful process it takes to make ANY article of clothing. This is about privilege and more well off vegans isolating the working class. And lastly, it is about acting superior, as if it is ok for another person to wear the gifted item because they are somehow less than us, because we're too good for nonvegan stuff.
The need to buy buy buy runs our culture. It is also responsible for the destruction of our planet and the industrialization of our treatment of humans and other animals. To act as if consuming more is a solution to aid animal liberation is silly.
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Philosophia commented on the article |
Yes and one can also argue that it opens up a discussion about wastefulness and consumerism rather than reducing veganism to a single-issue thing (which it is not, yet so many people make it into it).
I think any nonvegan or pontential vegan will be much less put off by an explanation of affordability and wastefulness rather than a holier-than-thou, completelyprivileged, capitalist view of us all being able to buy everything while ignoring the impact every new product has on our planet and the animals.
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Philosophia commented on the article |
Anai, all of this crap has been addressed both underneath your other comment (which you chose to ignore) and in Stephanie's reply. All you saw was the word "arrogant" I bet and started typing frantically the same crap that you already said and that has already been debunked.
You're not the vegan police and if you were, the last thing the world needs is another cop. Your superior attitude will turn people off faster than any fur coat or leather shoe, used or new.
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Philosophia commented on the article |
@llana, Chris is not saying there is a problem with keeping it in the cycle or giving things away. They are saying there is a problem with charity without mutual respect in that we are dumping the responsibility of nonvegan items on someone else so we can get rid of it from our own lives. It's about treating others as inferior and the moral superiority that vegans develop.
Chris, correct me if I am wrong.
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Philosophia commented on the article |
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES! Thank you, Chris.
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Philosophia commented on the article |
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES! Thank you, Chris.
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Philosophia commented on the article |
Why is it ok for one person to wear these things but not us? It's going to exist on someone either way.
You are making an argument of moral superiority here as if there are poor people who are less than us so they should be given the clothes so we need not be part of some controversy.
Consumerism is a weak "excuse"? Really? How many chemicals and truck trips and energy and so on do oyu think it takes to make a pair of vegan shoes, huh?
This is exactly the problem with every movement out there. Rather than stop the issue where it starts- in capitalism and oppression- people turn it into a capitalist and consumerist endeavor.
Buying too many things and being wasteful is bad- whether they are vegan or made of dead children.
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