These frustrating discussions unfortunately often appears to be the only way to get the frustration out.
My link appears not to have worked, I will attempt again:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denialism
I realise I shouldn't waste time on this discussion.
Goodbye.
I am refering to anecdotes that report improvement outside decently controlled trials.
Either way you expect people to just take your word for it.
I do not find it inconcievable that the thousands of online comments with all these anecdotes are largely written by the same people, even though they swap usernames all the time - they are just too much alike. This would be a highly effective way to fallaciously discredit criticism.
It is true that the Simpsonwood conspiracy can hardly be called a theory, as a theory shouldn't be contradicted by the evidence.
The link discussing the Simpsonwood conference is yet another example of dishonesty - as it misleads readers to believe that the 285 page transcript supports the existence of a conspiracy, while it infact rejects any such thing.
Take a look at this post for some other selected excerpts.
One can't expect scientists to be convinced by anecdotes while data contradicts them either.
Vaccine-autism activists continue to give credence to JB Handley (the guy with legal threats), David Kirby (the guy misrepresenting court documents) and Robert F. Kennedy (the guy with the Simpsonwood conspiracy theory). I have really hard time seeing how people promoting a vaccine-autism link could be taken seriously if they do not distance themselves from the tacticts that these people have used and continue to use.
I really don't understand why the time is still wasted on the vaccine issue - the people who promote it has been revealed to have been dishonest so many times that I find it extremely incredible that people are still listening to them.
While some seem to find it inconceivable that more inclusive diagnosis has caused the so-called "epidemic", I find it even more unlikely that environmental factors can cause the kind of increase that so many pseudoscience advocates describes.
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