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Jon Bankes
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Jon commented on the article |Anyone ever heard of free-range??? It cost me about $20 to raise a clutch of 15 turkeys. The real price killer for someone like me is the price tag for getting 'organic' certified, which I don't spend the money on.
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Jon commented on the article |You need to dig a little deeper if you think Native American's social structure wasn't based on faith in a creator.
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Jon commented on the article |
If you want to know what the founders believed, read what they wrote (instead of what others wrote ABOUT them). The opening line of the Declaration of Independence, for starters.
If you would choose to create a government totally free of any and all religion, what then would you base it on? Without basing laws on SOME faith, what do you have left? If you won't base your law on a higher power, there can be no moral law. That means everything is subjective and personal. If everything is subjective and personal, anything is allowable. Anything. The entire concept of wrong doesn't exist without there being a right. As such, nothing is punishable. People would be free to beat, rob, rape, and anything else you can imagine with no consequence to themselves. In such a world there can be no rights, constitutional or otherwise.
A nation without religion is a nation of evolution, with man as top dog in the universe. The only laws in that world is survival of the fittest and rule by the most powerful. I don't know if the city gangs or the rednecks from the Deliverance movie would win the war, but I wouldn't want to live under either regime, personally. ;-)
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Jon commented on the article |
What about moral laws against things like stealing, or murder? Shall we get rid of these? They take their basis from church teachings, too.
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Jon commented on the article |
Wow, I'm full of hate... good to know!
I do have a heavy sarcastic streak, though. ;-)
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Jon commented on the article |
Is forcing Christian morals out any different? The law is what it is - our founders based it on biblical values. Will you now undo the framework of our nation simply to replace it with your own moralities?
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Jon commented on the article |
True, but it's the other that appears to be in danger of happening.
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Jon commented on the article |
You completely misinterpret the constitution in saying that we need to keep religion a Church (building). The government is forbidden by the constitution from making any such law.
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Jesus' death was pre-ordained, just like his birth.
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I used to be definable as someone who was constantly looking for the next drink, followed quickly by the next fight. That was more than a set of acts, it was my identity, just as homo/heterosexuality can be seen as an identity for someone who is defined that way by society. God created both of us, but He didn't intend for me to live that way. He didn't give me the ability to change, He changed me. I had no part in it other than admitting the life I was living was outside of His will.
There has been mention made of the 'perfect life' Christians are called to lead, with Christ as the example - its both more complex and more simple than that. Jesus wasn't sent as an example of the life we had to work towards. He was sent to pay the penalty for our complete inability to live that life. He was sent to bridge the gap sin placed between God and mankind. People tend to look at sins as misdemeanors or felonies or some such. They're not something God tallies up against us that way. To God, sin causes a complete separation of Him and us. It only takes one. One white lie. One time of not listening to our parents. One sin. Nothing we can do can ever undo that. A good life? Worthless. That's what we should have done all along, not something that pays the debt. The only way the debt could be paid was for God to pay it Himself, and that's exactly why Jesus came. He paid our debt. Are you willing to admit you owe one?
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