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  R commented on the article | about 3 years ago

  Is Voting Pro-Choice, Anti-Catholic?

  Lisa,I appreciate your comments.  However, it seems like you are advocating a position of moral relativism.  "Thou shalt not kill," for example, may be a universal law - but how did it get to be universal?  On what grounds do we claim the moral authority to tell other people that they cannot kill, maim, and steal?  Ultimately, the reason must be connected to a law that is greater than man-made law, and an authority greater than any human authority.  Otherwise, your opinion about murder has no more weight than anyone else's, and even your claims to "freedom of choice" have no firm foundation.    For instance, on what authoity does anyone claim the right to have an abortion?  We can't just pick rights out of the ether.  They have to be grounded on something more than just subjective opinion.  The separation of church and state does not mean that people of faith cannot pass laws based on their religious/moral conscience.  The First Amendment states only that the U.S. Congress shall not establish a national religion similar to the Church of England, where people are rewarded or punished based on their membership status in the church.  It simply means that there will be no "Church of the United States."  It does not mean in any way that we are forbidden from building a nation founded on Christian principles.  In fact, the First Amendment says just the opposite in the "free exercise clause."  It says that Congress shall pass no law restricting the free exercise of religion.  However, many of those who advocate the straw-man version of church-state separation are demanding that all forms of religiously formed opinions be banned from public debate and the legislative process.  This is exactly what the Constituion was meant to guard against.  It was meant to protect people from anti-religious thugs who would forbid them from participating in their government based on their religion.America has always been a Christian country, and that has been our strength.  Look at the countries where religion was oppressed, and you'll see countries like the Soviet Union, Nazi Germany, Tibet, and Burma (Myanmar).  It always starts the same way.  If the radicals identify the agenda, then it won't be long before religious people will be jailed or otherwise punished for their beliefs.  If you don't think so, then just listen to the leadership of the pro-choice movement, and remember that it started the same way in the places mentioned above.  You may not be familiar with the history of totalitarianism, but it always starts with intollerance and disdain for religion.  The attitude is, "Get rid of all those who say we can't."  
  
  I have never seen so much hatred as when I see a radical pro-choice activist.  A woman praying her rosary beads on the sidewalk outside an abortion clinic becomes a target for these people.  They use ridicule, hateful words, and sometimes violence to stop such people.  I don't know how you feel about such people, but I would ask you to examine your own feelings.  What is the first thing you feel when you think of someone praying their rosary outside an abortion clinic?  If anger is the first thing you feel, then you have been conditioned by the radicals. 
  
  If you want to know more about pro-life people or Christians in general, then you (or anyone) should read or view material published by pro-life sources, rather than listening to the propaganda ABOUT pro-lifers that comes from pro-choice sources.  Everyone knows that most people are not in favor of killing babies, as you said.  Nevertheless, what good does it do to say you are against the killing of babies if you don't in fact do something to stop it from happening?  When will we have the moral courage to see this for what it really is.  Abortion kills human beings.  If your mother had aborted you, then you would not exist today.  She would have stolen your future.  Abortion not only kills, but it steals the entire future of those in the womb.  Every aborted fetus is an individual person who will never have the chance to be born again.  I don't know how people cannot see this, except that they willfully block the truth from their minds.    

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  R commented on the article | about 3 years ago

  Is Voting Pro-Choice, Anti-Catholic?

  If you are really a Catholic, Jen, then you should take seriously the mission that Christ gave the Church, which is to build the Kingdom of God on earth.  Do you really think that Jesus would approve of abortion?  Come on, even you can't possibly believe that? 
  
  As far as the separation of church and state goes, I don't think that most of the people in this forum even know what that is anymore.  Enforcing secularism on a Catholic is just as oppressive as forcing religion on an atheist.  Can you not see that?  What you are endorsing is not the separation of church and state, but rather the abolition of religion from public life.  
  
  I don't think that you realize that religion is the basis for law.  We have to assume that God exists in order for any moral norms to have any meaning at all.  If government takes an official stance of atheism, then on what grounds do we say that murder, rape, or anything else should be illegal?  If God doesn't have a place in the laws of our nation, then neither does morality - and if morality has no place in our laws, then it is perfectly okay to murder and rape.  Don't you see the conflict?