Why a country being "spiritually united" should trump a humane and sensible decision is beyond me. There are plenty of "spiritually united" countries out there whose fundamental governments border on dictatorships. Saudi Arabia, anyone? There are plenty of moderate mostly-Muslim nations, just as there are plenty of moderate Western nations who are primarily Christian. Compassion toward the mother is completely absent in this case; where is the Christian love here?
David sez: "Is it right to a couple to have unprotected sex without considering what might happen and then have an abortion --- no, I don't think so."
David, nowhere in this article does it say that this was an unplanned pregnancy, that the mother is unmarried, nothing like that. If my husband and I weigh all the evidence, decide to conceive, and find that our unborn baby has no brain and no chance at any kind of life, does that mean we should have considered that option, however unlikely, and just not bothered to conceive in the first place? That's not realistic.
The article doesn't mention whether this woman is married or not, had unprotected sex or not - contraception could have been used but failed - planned to conceive or not. And frankly, I don't think those circumstances are any of your damn business, or mine, or anyone's. I'm not in a position to judge this woman, or her pregnancy, or how it began, nor any other pregnancy in which I'm not a participant.
I don't think anyone should feel they have to resort to abortion as a form of birth control, but unplanned pregnancies happen despite precautions. Rape happens. Incest happens. Contraception fails. Teens use bad judgment, especially if they're not taught about any other option than abstinence. We aren't informed about the circumstances of this woman's pregnancy, of the baby's conception, so in the absence of that information, we can't really comment on the morality of her circumstances.
@James: Organ development in the fetus is not necessarily dependent on the fetus having a brain.
Also: families whose newborns are born with defective organs, and those newborns - those are the ones who would benefit from those baby organs.
OK, I've read the article, I've read the links, and I'm trying to understand, so please please please, no flames. :-)
I confess to being a dedicated omnivore, although we do tend to go lighter on the meat and heavier on the veggies than most people we know. We raise a lot of the veggies we eat ourselves when we can - can't get much more local than that - and we've found that dairy generally disagrees with us unless it's been cultured. We've also discovered that our bodies cannot seem to tolerate soy well; tamari as a condiment is OK, but tofu, soy cheese, tempeh - BIG digestive problems. Soy as a protein source doesn't work for us if we can't digest it. :-( Beans? Want to talk methane production? Enough said. (That was an attempt at humor. :-)) It's also easy enough to find negative information on soy: see here for one example: http://www.soyonlineservices.co.nz . (I know this link isn't the be-all and end-all - just posting it as an example of what else is out there.)
The article from Consumer Freedom doesn't seem to be making up statistics, at least at the beginning; its source is the EPA. And while Berman may be in the pockets of a number of groups skewing statistics, such skewing can happen in any direction; sensationalism and exaggeration aren't strictly the purvey of one side or another, of one cause or political position or another. He does bring
up a number of points worth thinking about, whether or not you like his overall approach or agree with his ethics.
After some quick Googling on methane as a fuel, it seems that there has been and still is work on using it as a fuel, but some of its properties make it less than practical in many ways. The best source of lots of info on this seems to be wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane .
Thank you for the "food for thought" on how raising animals plays a part in the larger picture of our world and the issues we face. I may not agree with the premise, but I certainly cannot argue that we should all be taking a good hard look at what we eat, how much we eat, how it's grown and produced, and where it comes from - along with many many other things we can do to reduce our personal and collective carbon footprints.
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