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Animalia commented on the article |I always get annoyed with this "But it's a CAT" crap.
It really amazes me how little people think. -
Animalia commented on the article |I love this site. I reference them all of the time and share them with people.
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Animalia commented on the article |What a lovely story. I wish more escaped.
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Animalia commented on the article |I am not going to fight with all of the posters on here (how UNLIKE me! :-))
I am going to say to Stephanie, you should be cranky. If you are like me, being haunted by animal abuse, it's only healthy to get cranky about it once in a while. Sometimes I am nice. Sometimes I am a total twat. It is the way it is ;-)
I agree with everything you said here. There should be no carte blanche for cruelty. -
Animalia commented on the article |Jackie, none of the other stores claimed to be sweatshop free even though some of their items are from China. You did claim to be sweatshop free (whether or not it said 100%), even though your site now says "Fair labor agreement" so I guess that has changed. The fact is that the majority of the items on your site come from sweatshop ruled countries. Will you at least admit that? Do you truly believe, in your heart, that the stuff you have on your site IS in fact sweatshop free?
And, as I already said, plenty of companies implicated in sweatshop labor have said they had people sign things. I do see that you have changed what it says on your site about sweat-shops since this blog was posted. This is much less misleading so kudos on that.
I am sorry that you find my comments to be unfair. I will admit that I personally have purchased things likely made in a sweatshop, though I do my best not to and most things that were made in those countries, I bought used. But, you're right, it is hard to find those things. But, you seem not to have any guaranteed sweatshop free shoes on your site, even though many companies exist for that.
Next time, ask the manufacturers for documentation of the workers' salaries, hours, breaks, benefits, and such and read them. You have the right to know. You're paying them money.
Companies that really guarantee no sweatshops will be glad to tell you these stats.
Now, I understand you are just a business trying to make it. We all fall short sometimes. But as a business, you have responsibilities- especially as a "cruelty free" business.
Vegetarian Shoes, No Sweat, Adbusters Blackspot, Autonomie Project, etc are all great vegan, sweatshop free shoe places. I don't see any of those on your site and those are a guarantee to be sweatshop free. Maybe you should look into them. -
Animalia commented on the article |EP, if you were so comfortable with your involvement with breeders and pet overpopulation, why would you feel the need to come on an animal rights blog and defend your practices?
Guilt. Doubt. Projection. Look them up. -
Animalia commented on the article |I recently wrote to an org about this- I think Mercycorps- telling them that, if they really wanted to feed people, they should give them a gardening kit and/or a well system.
They told me they also offered gardening things. I wish I know why they only advertised the animal one... -
Animalia commented on the article |Excellent! I ask people all of the time: Why do you think I do this? Do I do it just to make you mad? Do I do it just to make your life harder? Because, I can tell you the world doesn't revolve around you...
Those who ridicule animal rights activists are either trying to compensate for their own guilt or they are people that are so selfish that they have an honest delusion that all things happening in the world are happening to THEM.
Good article... -
Animalia commented on the article |
Well, I ordered a pair of shoes from there. At the time, their site said "sweatshop-free" from US and Canada. You will notice that it no longer says this on thr front page. At the time, I received the shoes with big "made in China" stickers on the bottoms. I wrote to them expressing my concern.
I received this reply:
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Are the items you sell sweatshop-free? We believe that it is important that both animals and humans be treated with respect and compassion. We have spoken to all of the shoe companies that we work as well as many of our other suppliers. We have requested that our suppliers manufacturing outside of the United States and Canada supply us with signed documentation stating that their products are made under fair trade conditions and are not manufactured with child labor or under sweatshop conditions. Unfortunately we don't have the means to visit the manufacturing facilities ourselves, so we have to trust that they are being truthful in their statements. Again, we are really sorry about any confusion. Most of the items we sell are made outside the US and we would never want to mislead our customers. Please let me know where you read that so we can make sure to correct it. Also, please feel free to give us a call or send us an email if you ever have any questions regarding specific items. "
Turns out the COMPANIES are US and Canada, but not he factories. And, to me, having people sign something about Chinese labor does nothing because the ethical standards there are very different than they are here- which is why people use cheap labor there. Also, companies like Nike- notorious for sweatshop labor- had people sign agreements as well. But they are still using sweatshops.
I never bought from them again. While the service was fast and good and the items are likely all vegan, they are mostly from poor countries and cheap labor. And, for a store that claims to be completely "cruelty free" that's not something I can handle. In my opinion, it's a flat-out lie to claim something is "sweatshop free" knowing that it comes from China and other sweatshop countries.
If you want real sweatshop free shoes, companies like No Sweat Apparel, Vegetarian Shoes, and Adbusters Blackspot shoes are the places to go. They will send you details of the payments, benefits, etc of the employees as well as images. -
Animalia commented on the article |
All of those except Alternative Outfitters are sweatshop-free as well. Alternative outfitters gets a lot of Made in China sweatshop products, despite their claim of being sweatshop free.
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