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M commented on the article |It's been great chatting with you. I think I have clearly stated my viewpoints and the foundations upon which they are built. While I would love to continue this conversation, I need to put my time and efforts into working for the betterment of humans. I'll leave the saving of turkeys and the like to all of you.
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Stephanie, I'm glad to hear your clarification and answer to my question. I didn't state it as a fact or say anyone implied it. It was just the impression I was getting and that's why I asked the question. I didn't want to assume.
And, to clarify, the reason I said what I did about finding a blog for human baby's rights is that I was referred back to change.org to find one. I suggested it as a cause but no one has answered me. Most of the animal rights groups I find are closely linked with liberal thinking groups and the pro human baby life groups are usually found connected to conservative thinking groups. Seems odd to me.
As a Christian, I believe I am to be a good steward of this earth and all that is in it. I believe I am. In eating meat, I also believe I am using animals for food as God said they were given for food. (Refer back to Genesis passage to Noah). I don't like the inference that anyone who eats meat is a cruel, tortuous, slaughterer. I'm none of those. Again my views are founded in the Bible. I still haven't heard what the foundation for others' views are except just personal feelings and opinions. And I am reading the websites you suggested, Stephanie. Thank you. -
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I can't take credit for anything I have said that I have taken from God's Word. I'm not speaking for "religion", or a denomination or a "church". I can only share what I have learned from studying the Bible and from the personal relationship I have with Jesus Christ since I was saved. Those are the foundations for my views and He has changed my life. I know that He sees me and all other humans differently than He sees a turkey and I am so very grateful for that. I am not a proponent of cruelty, mutilation or murder but I still thank God for giving me that turkey for food.
Question. Would you deny a human food if all you had to give them was a turkey or some other animal? That's the impression you give me.
By the way, I still haven't seen a blog for the cause of rights for unborn human babies on this site or any of the animal rights type sites I've looked at. Hmmmm. -
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Thanks for your response, Stephanie. I wish I knew what happened to that family. I'll look up those links you listed.
Lisa, you have called what I have quoted from the Bible, which I believe to be God's inspired Word, "Whacko" and "Religulous". God is who He says He is and He is NOT just whatever anyone wants to make Him. The Bible also says He does not show favoritism--His rain falls on the just and the unjust. But in the end, He will have His way.
To all--I pray God will bless your Thanksgiving and that you will give Him thanks for all we have to be thankful for. It's all a gift from Him. God is good all the time! -
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That would be interesting but that's not why He said He put them there so I'll take His word for it.
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My opinions and views are based on the Bible. Because of that, my view is that animals were given to us for food and enjoyment. God took great pleasure in making man "in His own image". He never says that about animals. After He created Adam, he brought all the animals to Adam to name them and He said that there was no suitable helper for Adam among them. That's why he created woman (Eve). They were put in charge of the garden and everything in it. After they sinned, it was God who clothed them in skins from animals. Jesus certainly told us to love and have compassion but I don't find anywhere in His teachings about this that refers to animals. It's for human relationships. It's humans He came to save, not animals. It's humans He wants a personal relationship with, not animals.
This is what I believe and it's based on the Bible and my personal relationship with Jesus Christ. I would be interested in what the basis of your views is. -
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Lisa Rimmert. You have a good point about "humane slaughter". I guess the dividing point then is a distinct difference between the innate value of human life over animal life. I think that's where most of us who do not agree on this issue are divided.
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Lisa Smolen-Jenk--Thanks for the tip. I searched change.org and didn't find a blog for human babies' rights. I did suggest it though so we'll see if it is accepted.
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Gary T.------uuuuuuhh, when did I say that?? I'm all for eating meat--it's a gift. Everything in moderation though--and kill them humanely.
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M commented on the article |
This is to Stephanie Ernst. I grew up in North St. Louis and knew a family well by the names of Virgil and Jackie Ernst. They had about 5 kids I think. Are you any relation???
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