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Obama got it wrong

Published March 26, 2009 @ 01:21PM PT

President Obama addressed the idea of taxing and regulating marijuana at an online town hall event today. His words: “No, I don’t think that is a good strategy to grow our economy.”

Clearly, he got that wrong. But that isn’t everything.

The president himself, not the moderator who was reading questions submitted via whitehouse.gov, raised the topic. His answer was prefaced with the recognition that this was a “fairly popular question.”

Actually, it was the most popular question, by far. Yet the president failed to treat it with the same thoughtfulness awarded to other topics. The entirety of his response is below (yes, it’s only 53 seconds long). Do you think he handled it fairly?

Comments

  1. Cherokee Fred Jesus

    I just watched Obama's town hall meeting and I must say if left me upset at our leader and the audience in attendance.

    When our leader brought up the question his forum had received on the legalization of cannabis and its effect on the economy. The crowd had a little giggle and our leader also had a little giggle and said no cannabis legalization cannot help our economy.

    First of all how can any human giggle at others suffering? This to me is a sign of ignorance or perhaps a person the enjoys others suffering. In either case I take offense to this display of disrespect to the majority of free Americans. That repeatedly say legalize, regulate and tax cannabis it helps many people. In my 60 years have never met a person that had a problem with cannabis. I know many people that enjoy cannabis it is the best option for them. Liquor on the other hand is very bad for you it killed my father and grandfather. I watched them die and being addicted to alcohol it is not a pretty sight. Yet this drug can be bought at any corner grocery and consumed legally. But if you choose cannabis a herb that relaxes and calms people. It is not addictive and cannot be overdosed on, is illegal. We that fight the war on drugs know all of the reasons and facts. Our leaders continue to ignore the facts and rely on lies for their defense.

    Our leader just stated 1 person every 36 seconds has to file for bankruptcy over a medical bills they cannot pay. I say you can recover from this you still have your job and working hard you can recover, been there done that.

    But the number one issue in our land gets giggled at. Putting 1 person every 36 seconds in jail. Taking every thing they own makeing them felons and destroying their lives! Take their children away from them, causesing them to loose their job. The local grocery store in my small town will not hire a felon to be a bag boy.

    That is why over and over ending the war on drugs is at the top of the list and all we get is a giggle. And a NO on our cries for justice! I am tired of this attitude and reading about more and more young people having their futures destroyed not by drugs, but by our own government and the racist laws.

    I suppose we are not screaming loud enough yet. But we are gaining momentum and I for one will not rest until our freedom is restored. The freedom of free choice for ourselves that is all we ask no demand!

    Americans will never conform to or respect a law born of racism perpetuated by greed and supported by lies....

    Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus

    Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/26/2009 @ 01:28PM PT

  2. Stephen Watters

    It was really sad to see Obama who had asked us all to contribute our ideas so dismissive of one of the most popular topics not only in America but here in Europe too.

    Why should people even bother making suggestions if they are dismissed out of hand without discussion or some form of benefit analysis. If I had known is was just a matter of him picking and choosing the ideas he likes or approves of then I for one wouldn't have bothered.

    If that's what change we can believe in looks like, I have to say it looks very similar to what we had before.

    You bad Obama.

    Posted by Stephen Watters on 03/30/2009 @ 02:11AM PT

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  4. James Litton

    The president's message was "I don't think that this is a good strategy to grow our economy" not that it would not grow the economy.

    What we need to do in order to start a dialogue is to change the framing of the question. Certainly, the primary driver for marijuana legalization could be economic, however with our current economic situation, this will not be taken seriously.

    We need to frame the idea of marijuana legalization in a context that is less in the forefront of the minds of Americans.

    I suggest that the next time the opportunity arises, we argue that legalization be motivated based on the science. Commissioned studies over the past 30 years have consistently suggested decriminilization or legalization of marijuana. President Obama has declared that he believes is making decisions based on scientific reason.

    We should be suggesting a scientific study be commissioned to determine the potential effect of legalization. This would be a much more politically viable option and could potentially put the administration between a rock and a hard place when the results come back in the same way that they consistently have. Either legalize or go back on your word to push science based legislation.

    We have to make clear that our intentions are clearly thought out and not the results of internet trolls faking or obscuring poll results.

    Posted by James Litton on 03/26/2009 @ 01:49PM PT

  5. John Stewart

    I completely agree that a scientific study should be commissions. That would definitely strengthen the debate. By 'strengthen' I mean 'end.'

    Anyone who takes a serious look at the effects of the drug war will agree that it does more harm than good. The Shafer Commission (conducted under Nixon over 35 years ago) recommended decriminalization and we're still stuck in this outdated, irrational, unscientific way of thinking about drug use. Of course, Nixon ignored it. It would be harder for Obama to do the same, so anti-legalization forces will definitely try to prevent a new study.

    Posted by John Stewart on 03/30/2009 @ 04:43PM PT

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  7. John Giordano

    Whoops, President Obama forgot that it was the #1 question and you don't get re-elected by ignoring the number 1 issue your constituents bring to you ON YOUR OWN WEBSITE!  The whole Change.org thing was Obama's idea, his baby and he laughingly blows of a huge number of voters who have an educated, scientifically backed, reasonable resolution to an antiquated, fear-mongering and archaic law.  Im so dissappointed, we thought change meant real change, not token changes.

    Posted by John Giordano on 03/26/2009 @ 02:18PM PT

  8. Lance C

    It's an outrageous that our President didn't take this issue seriously. 800,000+ Americans arrested every year for possession of cannabis, people dying because of the drug cartels in Mexico, and they're having a laugh? Get with the program, Obama, or you're going to lose a lot of votes!

    Posted by Lance C on 03/26/2009 @ 02:57PM PT

  9. John Giordano

    White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs is so well informed. 

    Gibbs suggested that marijuana advocates may have had a hand in stacking the deck by mobilizing supporters to send in questions and to go online and vote repeatedly for them.

    Wow, thats pretty lame, definitely not the way to admit that "Big Alcohol, Tobacco and Pharma paid us to shut up about legalization" 

    Just be a man and admit it, you're BOUGHT!

    Posted by John Giordano on 03/26/2009 @ 03:17PM PT

  10. Lance C

    Looks like the media caught wind of some of this attention...

    Better recommend this article on yahoo news!
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090326/pl_politico/20526

    Nobody's stacking the deck here... the vast majority supports legalization! Spread the word.. and keep e-mailing all your representatives.

    Posted by Lance C on 03/26/2009 @ 03:20PM PT

  11. John Giordano

    There were 11 comments on this an hour ago, guess someone is doing some housekeeping!?

    Posted by John Giordano on 03/26/2009 @ 03:53PM PT

  12. Nate Freed

    Way to blow off the question and insult the online crowd that got you into office Obama.  Keep ruining the lives of almost millions of americans a year all because of a nonsensical drug war on a plant.  I love America but alot of these laws are just ridiculous.  I got arrested for just a glass piece and now I cant get a job b/c of it.  legalize the damn plant and maybe cops will have to focus on REAL crimes! 

    Posted by Nate Freed on 03/26/2009 @ 04:02PM PT

  13. Jacob "Bear" Elert

    Guys,

    I just posted an iReport that I feel deals with this issue thoroughly. Could everyone check it out and tell me what they think and what I need to improve?


    http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-235632

    Posted by Jacob "Bear" Elert on 03/26/2009 @ 04:07PM PT

  14. Cherokee Fred Jesus

    covers everything

    Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/26/2009 @ 06:34PM PT

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  16. Laura Palfrey Murphy

    I actually cried when I heard the dismissive answer regarding the legalization of marijuana. And this from someone I had faith in from day 1. When they announced they had formed a presidential committee, I told everyone I knew he would win. He was the underdog then, but I could feel the energy shift in America. He was the man we had been waiting for to harness the power of the internet. Now he speaks as if the people who are now harnessing the power of the internet (change.org #1 issue), are just a bunch of organized stoners. It's very easy to dismiss us, but we will not be dismissed.

    I am tired of the munchie-stoner jokes. I am tired of the laughter and giggling in the media regarding this issue. THIS is a serious issue and should no longer be trivialized in the media. People are having their freedom taken away, their futures destroyed, all for what? I only want people incarcerated if they are a danger to society. Taking away a man's freedom should be the last choice and only done if they endanger others-period. This issue is about human decency. I am a convicted felon because I grew my own medicine. No, I didn't have a recommendation. Why? Because I knew the Feds refused to honor state laws. I watch the news. They took my 13 ½ month old from me for 6 months.

    I was a model student. In the sixth grade I scored 100% on the math placement test which was unheard of. I took my SATs stoned and got into UCSD. When I was 13 years old, the kids at asthma camp told me about cannabis for asthma. I told them they were crazy. You see, not only was I a model student, but a HUGE advocate for a drug free society. At age 19, against my doctors orders (he told me I would most likely die or be on an oxygen tank without my medicine), I stopped all the steroids, the *phyllins, the allergy pills, the pulmo aid, all of it. Those drugs had horrible side effects-shaking,anxiety,extreme fatigue,calcium loss, and on and on. I chose pot instead and guess what? Asthma gone. Every few years I might have an attack, but it's usually when I am exposed to a lot of dust or wildfires. The man who told me I would be on an oxygen tank if I smoked, would be shocked to see that at 41 years old, I am healthier now than ever before. I feel 20. I feel like I could run a marathon.

    As a person with lung problems since age 2, let me say this:

    Michael Phelps won the medals because of pot. I guarantee it. It increases your lung capacity. It has the fortunate effect of apoptosis (damaged cells die instead of reproducing) and to counter angiogenesis (the process by which blood vessels are formed -a requirement of tumor growth). Other antioxidants in cannabis may also be involved in countering malignancy. It is an anti-inflammatory, anti-bacterial, anti-viral, expectorant.

    I beg you to give this issue the respect it deserves.

    I am off to study constitutional law. Maybe I will see you in Washington soon. Just don't eat my brownies or use my lotion.

    Posted by Laura Palfrey Murphy on 03/26/2009 @ 05:39PM PT

  17. Cherokee Fred Jesus

    My man very well said!

    Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/26/2009 @ 07:16PM PT

  18. Cherokee Fred Jesus

    Excuse me My Lady

    Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/26/2009 @ 07:40PM PT

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  20. Andrew Snyder

    ONE WORD, REVOLUTION!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Andrew Snyder on 03/26/2009 @ 05:42PM PT

  21. Andrew Snyder

    The founding fathers said every so often the blood of its citizens must be shed to keep there freedom. We are not free anymore. We have let them do this to us. It is time to not let them few rule the many anymore, IT IS WE THE PEOPLE RIGHT>

    Posted by Andrew Snyder on 03/26/2009 @ 05:44PM PT

  22. Larry Brewer

    No change, no hope. This is just more proof that he is afraid to actually entertain facts, because he believes to be political suicide, just like almost all the other politicians. No change, no hope.

    Posted by Larry Brewer on 03/26/2009 @ 05:48PM PT

  23. Andrew Snyder

    I am so angry right now . I know and hope it does not fade. Though I know they will continue do do what ever they want an to hell with what the citizens want. That will keep me inspired. It just sickens me to be lauphed at. Millions of people voted for the (CHANGE) We did not vote for more of the same. If we wanted that we would of elected McCain. Be a man Obama and not a slave to the corporates that paid you off.

    Posted by Andrew Snyder on 03/26/2009 @ 05:48PM PT

  24. Cherokee Fred Jesus

    We will win join me in Washington DC on July 4, 2009

    http://www.trm3-801.org/

    Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
    State Rep MMMarch 7/4/09

    Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/26/2009 @ 07:21PM PT

  25. Kristin Gould

    I am extremely disappointed that the President once again shrugged off this subject. However, as disappointed as I am, I'm more offended. I think it was disturbing, to say the least, that he laughed and tried to turn it into a joke. I understand that people find the "stoned hippies" trying to legalize marijuana to be amusing, but this is not a joke. We don't laugh at the carnage of the Iraq war, what exactly makes this particular war so funny? I have to say, he's lost my vote. He can say he has an "open" government, but how open is it when he mocks the reasoning and concerns of his own supporters?

    Posted by Kristin Gould on 03/26/2009 @ 07:29PM PT

  26. Cherokee Fred Jesus

    DITTO

    CFHJ

    Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/26/2009 @ 07:36PM PT

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  28. Cherokee Fred Jesus

    Don't forget to smoke the CNBC pole

    http://www.cnbc.com/id/28621704

    36642 votes 97% in favor of legal cannabis


    VOTE  VOTE  VOTE

    Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/26/2009 @ 07:32PM PT

  29. Jacob "Bear" Elert

    Also, don't forget to go to CNN's iReport and argue against people saying marijuana should stay illegal.

    Here's one of those people.

    http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-235900

    Posted by Jacob "Bear" Elert on 03/26/2009 @ 07:46PM PT

  30. Laura Palfrey Murphy

    Took the poll. Joined the chat. Hey Fred Hood - the way you signed your first post cracked me up!

    Posted by Laura Palfrey Murphy on 03/26/2009 @ 08:48PM PT

  31. Cherokee Fred Jesus

    you me the CFHJ? it exposes racist from the beginning so I don't waste time....

    Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/28/2009 @ 10:56AM PT

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  33. jeffrey C oldman

    George Soros has made some serious cash in the financial crisis.he has before...and hopefully will stepup again and bankroll a few million bucks for the norml.org ad campaign.  Please help legalize cannabis and hemp by educating americans!
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1164771/Im-having-good-crisis-says-hedge-fund-manager-1billion-world-plunged-recession.html

    Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 03/26/2009 @ 09:09PM PT

  34. Laura Palfrey Murphy

    Is everyone here aware that the government spends millions of dollars a year to grow and supply cannabis to marijuana patients? I think only one patient is still alive. If he doesn't convince people, there is no hope. 

    Here is a link to his testimony:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvzX8aNwxgM

    Posted by Laura Palfrey Murphy on 03/26/2009 @ 09:51PM PT

  35. Osama Qussous

    Mr. Obama of you do read these blogs, I thought you thought science was the way forward, its not just just "these people on the internet" that asked this question, americans asked you as our president they we elected.  Why would this issue be a joke and laughing matter.

    Almost 900,000 people arrest last year
    Drug cartels make the profites rather then the US government.

    We wanted change, we thought you are the person that would bring considering your part of the minority in the US.

    It's not  just marijuina that can help the economy, and a smart man with logic like knows this, but HEMP will help the ecomony. Hemp is cheap to grow , grows year round, mass produce it, does not destroy the earth, to many benefits.  If you can become the president of the US then you know as much as millions of others that there is no harm but only good in endig prohibition, its a victimless crime.

    Besides you smoked, so put yourself in someone else shoes that got caught smoking a natural herb, how would you feel?

    p.s.

    You tube yourself in 2004 debate....what happen?

     

    Posted by Osama Qussous on 03/26/2009 @ 10:56PM PT

  36. mikey  johnson

    there's another oppertunity to question president Obama at an upcoming press confrence at the link below.

    http://www.communitycounts.com/forum/?id=obama&linked=xr4wf

    "Mr. President, why aren't you taking seriously the proposal to legalize marijuana? It's less dangerous than many legal substances, and offers the possibility of a huge new "green" industry. Prohibition has not reduced usage; instead, it creates an opaque, dangerous market for a substance particularly popular with young people, and empowers violent criminal cartels. So be honest - why won't you legalize marijuana?"

    i can't think of a better follow-up question!

    Posted by mikey johnson on 03/26/2009 @ 11:31PM PT

  37. Peter Campiou

    Obama lied to his peeps. He gave them false hope, he's a fraud. I called him "Rocko Obama," now I call him "Talk Obama!" Lol.. Ur smile can't fool the people. A lier is jus' that, a lier. No more add no less.  

    Posted by Peter Campiou on 03/26/2009 @ 11:40PM PT

  38. jeffrey C oldman

    I started supporting financially the Obama push even before his presidential campaign got going. Having read his books, listened to his podcasts, and heard him speak a few times i had so much hope. here’s a rational dude who is gonna focus on fixing the completely irrational parts of our government. or so I thought. Well mr Obama with all these damn troops you are lobbing at afganistan…and now this?!!!!

    Your uneducated, belittling, half-assed reply to the multitude of cannabis legalization questions was appalling. Please enlighten yourself and the american people!!!

    mr Obama, you owe us an explanation as to why cannabis & by association hemp were made illegal in the 1930s. why are they truly illegal today? Think about up arresting over 1 million people a year for cannabis for the next 100 years? As a human being, who has inhaled cannabis several times, do you find this not truly disheartening? that’s where the current drug war is headed unless you educate yourself and rationalize with the american people that NOW is the time to end the prohibition on cannabis and hemp.

    If you do not educate yourself and have a rational conversation about the pros of national cannabis & hemp legalization quite soon then I have some sad news for you…you will not be re-elected. unless you drop Biden and pick up Ron Paul as your running mate in 2012 ;)  This is not a laughing matter.

    Do not succumb to the powers of big pharma, big alcohol, big tobacco, corporate prisons, and big paper. They have had their say long enough. Now it is the american peoples turn to regain their freedom of choice.

    Legalize hemp and legalize cannabis! Prohibition of these plants will NEVER WORK.

    Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 03/27/2009 @ 01:59AM PT

  39. jeffrey C oldman

    mr Obama poorly answered merely the economic impact of legalizing cannabis. and he answered incorrectly. just checkout the prose of the california & mass legalize campaigns for some potential tax revenues. of course this would mean we could legalize hemp as well. do not underestimate the potential new economic growth created by these two wonderful plants.

    mr Obama you need to address the humanistic aspect of legalizing cannabis. you need to truly argue some of its effects on humans vs everything else out there and in particular tobacco, alcohol, and pills.

    how can these two plants remain illegal forever? they have been illegal for about 30% of USA’s existence. 70 freakin years! can it still be illegal 3000 years from now? how would that be possible?

    we need to make this national NOW so that we can move on to important issues.

    Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 03/27/2009 @ 03:04AM PT

  40. joseph beaver

    to bad so sad,this government sucks.obama had my respected untill yesterday no more.just another politian telling the public what they want to hear so he could be president.change was your slogan,what a joke.there will never be change in this country.yeah that question was veryfunny?NOT.its so funny to stereotype people huh?.I bet all the docters,business men and everyday working man that smoke and voted you in thought that was the funniest joke they ever heard.NOT.here's a funny one-we smokers will continue to smoke,sell and grow regardless of the this outdated law.thats pretty funny huh?i love my country ,but this government what a joke.1 more thing yeah that question does reflect what kind of people are online.alot of smokers and patients that feel strong about their beliefs on marijuana.maybe it should remain illegal,id rather give my money somewhere esle.by the way i am a tax paying hard working man that enjoys winding down,not some hippie from the 60s.TOMMY CHONG 4 PREZ.POT AMERICA KEEP TOKIN

    Posted by joseph beaver on 03/27/2009 @ 11:10AM PT

  41. Clifton Middleton

    A New Economic Foundation,

     Renewable Energy and the Social Contract

    We have an opportunity to create a new economic foundation based on renewable natural resources, yielding thousands of green jobs, producing a sustainable replacement for oil and the restoration of social consent and confidence in the body politic. All of that and more made manifest by a stroke of the pen, simply by properly classifying hemp as the medicine and beneficial resource that over 100,000,000 Americans already know it is. Hemp, cannabis is good.

    The social benefit of a rational hemp policy would be to restore social consent and confidence in the body politic. Currently, over 100,000,000 Americans have used marijuana and have decided that it is a good thing, not dangerous and should be free, not used to ruin peoples lives by arrest, confiscation and disenfranchisement. Thinking people do their own research and many times conclude that the laws against marijuana are arbitrary, unjust, wrong and that the only people who support them are either uninformed or their jobs depend upon the mandatory acceptance of marijuana prohibition.  This is the true silent majority, citizens who think that the marijuana laws are irrational and are afraid of persecution and discrimination if they express their opinions publicly.

    Industrial hemp production could provide a domestic and renewable source of fuel, fiber and jobs. Hemp can be grown, produced and processed all across the land by thousands of urban farmers using land, lots, parks and public lands lying fallow and unused. These green jobs are about the growing, harvesting and processing of locally grown organics for food and fuel and could constitute the bedrock of a truly independent economy, intrinsically secure, renewable and stable, sustainable and most importantly doable.

    The benefits of a rational hemp policy are financial, social and moral.

    The economic impact of is three fold; first is the creation of Jobs based on a sustainable, clean source of fuel, fiber and medicine, estimated at over One Trillion dollars. Good jobs that produce energy and tax revenue that is

    The second is the savings to taxpayers by eliminating the money spent on law enforcement, the courts and prisons, estimated at over 8 billion a year. The third is the cost to individuals and families who are criminalized by a system that encourages law enforcement to arrest people, fine them, confiscate their property, and disenfranchise them from the vote, healthcare, professional licenses and credit. This cost is measured in the billions of dollars. All totaled the war on marijuana and the lost opportunities to develop hemp; combined with the needless suffering of those persecuted is over 2 Trillion dollars a year.

    The moral benefit is simple; the truth will set us free.

    We need to decriminalize marijuana and repel the effects of the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act to restore the production, development and use of the most sustainable, renewable natural resource recorded in history.  Hemp production can replace the use of oil as a fuel quickly, efficiently and at low cost. Hemp is a renewable crop that can be grown on land not used for food, improving the land and providing a carbon neutral source of fuel. Hemp production and processing will create jobs all across the land while providing a local and domestic source of energy.

    The use of marijuana for medical purposes is the oldest and most universally documented use of any substance in medical history. 13 states have decided that marijuana is a beneficial plant and it is time allow and encourage the use and investigation of medical marijuana and industrial hemp.

    Hemp production was the economic foundation of colonial America because it was readily grown and used for over 25,000 different purposes; Hemp was grown for sails, rope, oil for lamps, clothing and high quality paper. The Declaration of Independence was drafted on hemp paper by Thomas Jefferson, an advocate of hemp for commerce, medicine and recreation. George Washington was one of the largest hemp growers in the colonies and the renewable income produced by this plant sustained our first president and his family before, during and after the revolution. It is fair to say that the spirit to be free and independent was made possible by the ability of our fore fathers to be economically independent and free. Hemp production was the backbone of liberty, freedom and economic independence for colonial America and could once again be the keystone of a renewable, sustainable and yes, Independent economy.

    Posted by Clifton Middleton on 03/27/2009 @ 04:02PM PT

  42. B B

    Obama doesn't want to highlight the marijuana issue. Seems like this Change web site feels the same way, considering that more people are signed up to this "idea" than most of the "Causes" which are more prominently displayed.

    Why is that?

    Posted by B B on 03/27/2009 @ 05:43PM PT

  43. B B

    Obama doesn't want to highlight the marijuana issue. Seems like this Change web site feels the same way, considering that more people are signed up to this "idea" than most of the "Causes" which are more prominently displayed.

    Why is that?

    Posted by B B on 03/27/2009 @ 05:43PM PT

  44. Laura Palfrey Murphy

    Anyone see Larry King tonight? Medicinal marijuana was discussed.

    Do you think Obama's laughter and dismissal of the marijuana question was a plan to get the debate in the public eye? What better way to begin a controversy in a passive way. All he really said was that he did not believe it would help our economy. That could be because he thinks everyone will grow their own and the profit will be gone.

    And the delay of Charlie's (dispensary owner on Larry King) verdict based on the judge questioning Eric Holder on the new admins policy? It all seems like a plan to me. Defer the attention from Obama beginning this process (that's a hell of a political firestorm) and let the community and the judges get the issue out in the media.

    The town hall internet meeting being yesterday (he knows mj is the #1 internet cause), the verdict deferred of all days today. It all smells very Lincoln-esque to me. Anyone read "Lincoln" by Gore Vidal? I loved how he could forsee consequences of what would lead to what and so on...

    Google Irv Rosenberg. Watch his testimony in Michigan.
    Google Barry Cooper
    Google Jury Nullification

    Posted by Laura Palfrey Murphy on 03/27/2009 @ 11:33PM PT

  45. Cherokee Fred Jesus

    Fellow activist I feel today is a sad day. The right, greedy, big money, our lawmakers and even our leader President Obama are continuing to ignore or fight against ending our enslavement.

    They contributed billions to Mexico and started the problems our brothers to the south are enduring. Now after what to me was a plan, have created mass murder in Mexico. Our lawmakers use the turmoil they created as a fear card they always like to play. They announce the problems and say we must take action spend billions more and hire more law enforcement. We must put another million Americans in jail and destroy their lives. We must continue to spend billions of our hard earned money they use to enslave us.

    I am so sick of this stoner image our herb has. I am as you know an old guy 60. I retired after a 30 year career with a fortune 50 company. I am also a volunteer, joining the military in 1968. I had no interest in the war on drugs until a drug task force came to my castle and to quote Chong, "They made me feel black". They came to my house on an anonymous tip but found nothing. I should consider myself lucky I was not shot or killed. Nothing was planted in my house to insure the quota is met.  This stirred my interest why would eight armed men come to my house? I went to the net and read everything I could find on the war on ourselves. The lives it destroys the money wasted the motivation behind it all, greed.

    Now I fight for our freedom. Recorded on hemp paper our founders gave us this freedom. Now greed and corporate money have taken our freedoms away.

    I had faith in our leader President Obama and worked hard to insure his election. But now in power he fails to make a case to cure the number one problem in our great country. Even though the people keep saying this is our number one problem over and over. I do not have room or time to state all the facts that confirm what I say is true. I have no reason to lie. I do not receive millions from corporations to insure the war continues. They so far have not printed enough money to buy my opinion. The war on US (drugs) destroys more lives and waste more money than any other single action our government chooses to support. Including the financial crisis the war to contain weapons of mass destruction or the heath care meltdown or any other issue. Not to mention it is creating a Nazi like confrontation between many Americans and authority figures.

    So before you cast the first stone. All I ask is go and read history it is all recorded for you. Do not rely on the news or our lawmakers for the truth. Read why Anslinger waged the war to begin with (racism). Find out what the motivation was behind the laws that started the war (greed, hate). Do some research like who provides the money behind the Drug Free America Foundation Inc. (the ones that make their money on the legal drugs and they do not like competition). Why do our lawmakers continue to support the war even though the majority say end the war legalize, regulate and tax to help our country.

    Stop enslaving almost one million Americans every year. Stop wasting 100 billion ever year take the money and provide universal health care for every American. Then if a person has a problem they can get help. Not feed them to the for profit jail system we support today. Sacrificing non-violent passive productive people at the rate of one every 36 seconds. I know the main ones to suffer as always are the poor and powerless the uneducated the ones that are naive and do not believe the truth. Or they like I was have not looked for the truth they just follow the rhetoric and lies our leaders use. To continue to ensure the rich get richer and the poor pay the price. I am tired of this and advocate a grass roots action to let the people vote. We will overrule the greed and racism and free our people of the slavery still practiced today, in the year 2009. The year we make history and return the rights taken away join me in the fight....

    Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus

    Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/28/2009 @ 10:50AM PT

  46. Robert Norris

    How can in not help grow the economy when uber amounts of cash are wasted controlling it, and hunting 'criminals' who use it?

    When you remove prohibition, its removing this massive black hole cost in the economy... you lift out half the population of living in a kind of paranoid guilt-o-phrenia and those people start contributing in great ways because they live in a land where they are supported and encouraged to be themselves.

    Without legalisation, you have half the country living in a fearful state, and something they do to relax or heal is condemned and thats not good for confidence. It creates rebels in society, not people who want to put themselves into it, for who wants to support a government, an economoy, a society which attempts to condemn you for a bit of mind expansive experience in which that time, you're going to come up with a brilliant idea that adds value to the rest of the society?

    Posted by Robert Norris on 03/28/2009 @ 07:43PM PT

  47. Cherokee Fred Jesus

    ditto my friend I am always looking for more reasons to end the madness you just added another one!!

    Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/31/2009 @ 08:36AM PT

  48. Robert Norris

    If they won't listen, I think we need one of those million spliff marches whereby we walk up to the white house lawn (which technically we own as the tax contributors) and roll it up.

    Its not governments role to tell us what we can and can't do to our own bodies.... criminalising marijuana is a "crime" where there are no victims, which essentially  and the real criminal activity is interfering with peaceful activity.

    crime is defined as "a violation of a law in which there is injury to the public or a member of the public and a term in jail or prison, and/or a fine as possible penalties.". In this situation, we have given a yes to the idea that we ourselves, need protecting from ourselves because smoking a spliff or having a bong or baking a cookie doesn't hurt anybody but the bank manager (imo).

    With regards to social destruction of this herb relative to the dominant intoxicant that is legal, in all my years, I have never ever seen anybody act even 30% as intoxicated as what you see MOST people are who walk out of clubs and pubs. The legalised alcohol numbs the senses while the illegal one makes one receptive.

    I think that basically this stuff is illegal because anybody who has a puff realises how stupid it is to rock up day in day out and make tax money to buy more ranches for politicians, and how stupid it is to keep buying more and more cars so that the fat cat oil guzzlers keep making a mint. Plus I think it opens people up to get over boundries of racism and difference, and so the war changes from the ignorant brainwashed religious battles into the real battle which is probably against the bank rolled polly want a crackers and money changers.

    Not only would legalising fix the economy, it would fix the environment because instead of the primary toxicant being a mind numbing escapism emotion forgetting substance (alcohol) people get receptive and wake up to the substancelessness of what we've been handed down by these dollar junkies.

    Work work work. Jobs keep the economy going. Thats actually a crock of shit. Jobs keep the government and the fed reserve happy. And an economy removed from ecology is not the real economy and I think that should be illegal to force an economy onto a people that has laws in it which destroy the real economy: nature. Sadly, I think you won't find any mass media directly coming out saying "hey everybody, smoke it up or have a cookie" because those fed fellas own all of it. We get drips and draps through 1% of the media of shows like Weeds and late night shows, but ultimately, marijuana is continually marketed as a totally fringe badass activity that ultimately leads to bad things. Reality is, more than 1% smoke it up, infact its becoming a majority and I'm seeing more and more every day people come out saying "yeah, I like the weed". People who have been in hiding, fooled by the idea we are a minority, when we are not. Sadly, when the federal reserve and the money making politicians create the ruler by which we measure things, just about anything that equals freedom without an authority is considered 'bad'.

    Ultimately, freedom is not theirs to give us. And I think we are barking up the wrong tree when we are asking for permission to do something that is already our natural right to have. Government is employed by us to make sure the communities it governs gets good water... that was the original idea... the moment we started thinking we need an authority to tell us what we can and can't do for ourselves, we shut down independance and become creatures of habit, fear and control.

    Posted by Robert Norris on 03/31/2009 @ 03:59PM PT

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  50. Laura Palfrey Murphy

    Cherokee Fred, very well said.

    I agree-the stoners need to leave the fight. The stereotype must fade.

    Posted by Laura Palfrey Murphy on 03/28/2009 @ 07:43PM PT

  51. Andrew Snyder

    We will never stop until we regain our freedoms our founding fathers died for. We will never surrender. we will win at any cost. We have to LIVE FREE OR DIE!!!!!!! Unless you are ready to make the ultimate sacrifice you do not want your freedom! The constitution is there for a reason. USE IT> Stop letting arrogant pieces of crap poop on it.

    Posted by Andrew Snyder on 03/28/2009 @ 09:20PM PT

  52. R Moore

    They also lied about the drug raids on Marijuana clinics...

    DEA Raids San Francisco Collective -- MPP Wants Answers The DEA raided a San Francisco medical marijuana collective March 24 -- just one week after U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder announced the Department of Justice's more hands-off policy regarding state medical marijuana laws. Watch MPP's Troy Dayton question the DEA's apparent transgression on San Francisco's local CBS news. Click here to tell the White House medical marijuana patients deserve an explanation.

    Posted by R Moore on 03/30/2009 @ 12:49AM PT

  53. Cherokee Fred Jesus

    Thanks for the link we all need to sign this one and ask for a explination. Has the DEA decided to over rule our leader?

    Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/31/2009 @ 08:41AM PT

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  55. Matthew Duke

    Fuck you Obama

    Posted by Matthew Duke on 03/30/2009 @ 04:59PM PT

  56. Cherokee Fred Jesus

    short to the point well said!

    Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/31/2009 @ 08:43AM PT

  57. ramon rivera

    two powerfull words brother !!
    u made a very good point here !!

    Posted by ramon rivera on 04/09/2009 @ 02:12PM PT

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  59. Andrew Snyder

    Ok here is what I know. When the war on drugs started at the beginning of the 20th century around 1.3 percent of the population were addicted to some sort of (drug) including alcohol. We have spent well over a trillion dollars fighting this war. Basically making criminals out of citizens that needed medical help. Yes they had a problem. A human problem which could of been solved by helping them not incarcerating them. Yes we are so civilixed. We are the only so called free country that puts people in jail for having a medical condition. This is insane. The only reason we have all the violence and crime around this issue is because of PROHIBITION. This has to stop. Getting back to the point do you know what percent of the population is addicted today. Around 1.3 percent. Does that make sense for us to continue to fight this war on our sick who need help and our sympaphy.

    Posted by Andrew Snyder on 03/30/2009 @ 08:30PM PT

  60. Cory Jacowski

    The way we are headed is towards anarchy.  Marx was right!  The dollar is going to become worhtless, thats why you see all these people paying money for gold.

    Im upset at obamas comment on what egalizing marijuana polls say about our online community.  the only reason i get online is either school relatated( YES OBAMA IM IN COLLEGE AND HAVE A JOB AND IM NOT SOME THUG.  MARIJUANA HAS A BAD REP, I MEAN A WRONG ONE.  WHATCH REEFER MADNESS LATELY???WHAT A JOKE), for fantasy sports or to get in contact with friends through facebook.  People are so ignorant

    Posted by Cory Jacowski on 04/01/2009 @ 09:47AM PT

  61. Stephen Thomas

    this is the last time im saying this if marijuana laws are not reformed by the end of his term I will lose hope in America and our goverment  nor will i ever vote again I have put to much money and support to get laughed at and still see others suffer Obama you are the joke and I wish I was in a another life in another country cause this one is fucked and its gonna get worse ....by the way I will explain to others how I feel

    Posted by Stephen Thomas on 04/01/2009 @ 11:56AM PT

  62. mikey  johnson

    That is precisely how marijuana prohibition has persisted into the 21st century. The government makes it so difficult that the populous louses hope and gives up. I say stay persistent. The more we are denied, the louder we get. Already we can't be ignored. Every political leader in America is under daily harassment about the marijuana issue. No one should think that we could go from George Bush to legalization in a matter of a few months. This is a battle, and it will continue to be a battle. A battle they have never really won. We just gave up because it became to difficult. NO MORE! Now it's THEIR turn to give up. We just have to continue forcing the issue. When we get shot down (as we have before), we push harder. Don't lose hope my friend. We are going to prevail in the end.

    Posted by mikey johnson on 04/01/2009 @ 12:22PM PT

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  64. Stephen Thomas

    A revolution (from the Latin revolutio, "a turn around") is a fundamental change in power or organizational structures that takes place in a relatively short period of time.

    all these years we tried to do things by peace but I dont think peaceful marches infront of the white house are not gonna do it (cause it would have by now)I think less then half of america is gonna have to turn on itself to get the balance back and the power back to the people...no more BS ...I came here to take this serious and obama just laughs in our face....if the police can use force I say we should too

    Posted by Stephen Thomas on 04/01/2009 @ 03:47PM PT

  65. Stephen Thomas

    everyone who we call each other friends say it with me....................NO MORE FEAR

    Posted by Stephen Thomas on 04/01/2009 @ 03:49PM PT

  66. Stephen Thomas

    NO MORE FEAR

    Posted by Stephen Thomas on 04/01/2009 @ 03:59PM PT

  67. Audrey Niederhauser

    Seriously though... whats it going to take? how many people have to say they want it? how many times do we have to bring up the issue before it is taken seriously?

    Posted by Audrey Niederhauser on 04/01/2009 @ 04:03PM PT

  68. Andrew Snyder

    We have to take our rights back. Our founding fathers enjoyed all that cannabis gave to them / Abe Lincolns favorate thing was to sit on his porch with a pipe full of sweet hemp! We should be able to do the same. We are going to have to do the same thing they would if there freedoms were taken from them FIGHT WITH ALL OUR MIGHT TO REGAIN OUR RIGHTS AS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA CITIZENS>
                  REVOLUTION BE OURS NOW!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Andrew Snyder on 04/02/2009 @ 11:50AM PT

  69. Andrew Snyder

    We need help in Pennsylvania also. We have a rep introducing a bill in the house in the coming weeks. So any one in PA please right your reps asap. Get the word out to your friends and any one who will listen. call your local papers and radio stations, do anything to get this out. Get the truth out there. The truth and our will can set this in motion and keep the ball rolling.
    Thanks, Andy

    Posted by Andrew Snyder on 04/02/2009 @ 08:31PM PT

  70. derrick steele

    LEGALIZE IT-IF IT DONT WORK THEN ILLEGALIZE IT AGAIN

    Posted by derrick steele on 04/02/2009 @ 10:40PM PT

  71. jeffrey C oldman

    we are getting so tired of especially you tobacco using, alcohol consumin, moral preachin, wife beatin mother f-ers out their, try some cannabis indica.  you'll consume less of your own vices no doubt and be a more balanced human being because of it.

    can you guys believe the scientific study these assclown prohibitionists site from the BRAINDEAD reagan era?

    some evil scientists pretty much gased to death two poor monkeys.  wow what a trip it must have been for them to be derprived oxygen and forced to inhale 200 freakin j's worth of cannabis all at once...they lost a few brain cells because of this O2 deprivation.  tragic, may their ashes rest in peach.
    "One decades-old study continues to fuel claims that cannabis use causes cerebral damage. Two unwitting rhesus monkeys were exposed to 200 times the normal human dose of THC, administered through a constant cloud of smoke. However, in a more recent study, rhesus monkeys exposed to the equivalent of five cannabis cigarettes per day for seven months (what would be termed heavy chronic use in an adult human) showed no signs of cerebral abnormalities, discrediting claims attached to the older study.[10]|
    http://www.cannabismd.net/cerebral-effects/

    just as today IOWA became the 3rd state to end the prohibition on Marriage inequality...one by one the cookies will crumble and this ridiculous national prohibition on HEMP an CANNABIS will be ended with an amendment to the constitution. 

    spend my tax payer dollars wisely and AMEND the constitution NOW mr obama.  lift the prohibition on Cannabis, Hemp, & Marriage CHOICE now obama.  the earth is 4 billion years old.  1937 you took away our rights.  LOOK at the trends my friend.

    Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 04/03/2009 @ 10:32AM PT

  72. Colton Bushek

    I Think he Should legalize it i really don't care if i see people smoking it im around it all the time beacue how people choose to live in schools on the stress in our nabors yards justs everwhere you will find some pot heads it's dumb but thats what americans want. besides all the other people that have money that get everything they want to be happy beacue face it love doesn't any more. money does more than anything and he's already spent that all up look like your just like them now so why don't you just go to pot yourself. join the rest of the american beacuse one day it will all be online viewers. i'm joining the air force soon im giving my life to this countrey and i wouldn't care at all if they legal legalized it. maybe they would get since back into there heads and realize the real joys in life :] that i will expecenice in mine. Also one more thing people die some much from drugs doctors give your not so careful on that why? people do the same stupid shit ass being on meth or drinking. There starting to pop up everywhere. it's worse than marijuana use where i live. i think everyone in the world needs to grow up and stop being a bitch i'd get in anyones face even if it was some dude that killed a hundred people beacuse in my eyes hes just a human like me we have the same chances. just like a cow is a cow no one wants to eat them but we have too ;] no one really wants our countrey saved by weed but we may have too :D and i know im still a teenager but if this countrey did care about my voice they would stop being dumb so much for the american dream lol.

    Posted by Colton Bushek on 04/05/2009 @ 04:03PM PT

  73. Victor R. Massa Aleman

     betrayed, sad, insulted, rage... what negative emotion didn't I feel after seeing that?  It really pains me to realize that our children and their children will have to deal with the devastation that the ignorance of so many people will cause to the future of the U.S. and the planet as a whole.  Ignoring and dismissing the benefits of marijuana is like denying that the earth is round.  Ignorant.

    Posted by Victor R. Massa Aleman on 04/16/2009 @ 01:36PM PT

  74. Cherokee Fred Jesus

    I give up I have written emails to everyone on your contact us about this problem. With not one reply at least you are consistent!!

    But I know from experience you do monitor these comments so here it is.

    When I started using this site you could send a message using the, "send to all friends", now it is not an option. I just sent a message to all my friends one at a time what a pain in the
    ASS....

    CAN YOU RESTORE THE SEND TO ALL FRIENDS OPTION IN THE DROP DOWN BOX AT SEND MESSAGE TO FRIENDS???????????

    We are the ones that support your site this seems like a legitimate request. But I have heard from none of your staff that I emailed, not one!!

    If you are not going to restore this useful function at least you could reply to a supporter!!!

    I know I will the canned we pulled your comment but for once could you address it??

    CFJ

    Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 04/29/2009 @ 04:28PM PT

  75. Charles Hancock

    Reclassifying Drugs
    Not reschedule but completely change the classifications of drugs. Currently we have Schedule 1 – 5 drugs. This system does not give an adequate difference between all the drugs that are out there. I think the classifications should also be numbered 1 – 1000. This will give adequate separation between drugs and leave room for future drugs. IE I would place Heroin and Meth around 900 just because their will probably be something worse.


    Mental Addiction 1 - 1000

    The Habit or Routine IE I quit smoking for 2 weeks. (Over 7 months now) I got in my car for the first time. After about a mile I started wondering why is it so cold? Out of habit, I rolled down my window for my cigarette. This isn't even the worst part. I am just trying to paint a picture of just the habit of lighting a cigarette when you don't even really want one.


    Physical Addiction 1 - 1000

    IE Many drugs the Physical Addiction can be so strong if you quit cold turkey you will need medical assistance. If you do not have medical assistance, you could die from trying to quit.


    Social Addiction 1 – 1000

    IE Meth Dealing or Cooking. A 50-year-old overweight man can sleep with 18-year-old strippers. How do you convince them to be normal again?


    IE People surround themselves with people who do that drug. If that drug is socially acceptable like alcohol, you see it everywhere. Every time you go out on a first date, you're invited out for drinks. Or even better invited in for drinks. Changing your friends your lifestyle. All of these things are very difficult. The worst part is it isn't a choice you make one day. You need to make that choice every day, every hour, every minute and every second. One brief instant a lapse in judgment can destroy years of work.


    Health Risks 1 - 1000

    IE Effects of short and long term usage to the body. Developing a number system for adverse effects on the body.


    Overall 1 - 4000


    And of course education! Mandatory volunteer work in emergency rooms and detox centers. Faces of meth should be posted everywhere to the point of us being sick of them. We should also do the same type of program for all drugs that change your appearance. This system leaves no doubt. With this knowledge, you now have a much clearer picture of what you are doing. I essentially grew up with this knowledge. I saw the worst-case scenario of every drug in my early teen years.

    Posted by Charles Hancock on 05/13/2009 @ 03:56PM PT

  76. Mark Oki

    I urg all of you PLZ go watch this video!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&feature=channel_page its a full video 1 hour and 53 minutes
    "The Obama Deception" There is sumthing very strange about this guy lol

    Posted by Mark Oki on 05/13/2009 @ 11:10PM PT

  77. Mark Oki

    Legalize it!!!!!!!!

    Posted by Mark Oki on 05/13/2009 @ 11:11PM PT

  78. Andrew Snyder

    Posted by Andrew Snyder on 05/23/2009 @ 06:49AM PT

  79. Andrew Snyder

    I found this at crrh.org
    According to the Notre Dame University publication, The Midlands Naturalist, from a 1975 article called, "Feral Hemp in Southern Illinois," about the wild hemp fields that annual efforts from law enforcement eradication teams cannot wipe out, an acre of hemp produces:

    1. 8,000 pounds of hemp seed per acre.
    When cold-pressed, the 8,000 pounds of hemp seed yield over 300 gallons of hemp seed oil and a byproduct of
    6,000 pounds of high protein hemp flour.
    These seed oils are both a food and a biodiesel fuel. Currently, the most productive seed oil crops are soybeans, sunflower seeds and rape seed or canola. Each of these three seed oil crops produce between 100 to 120 gallons of oil per acre. Hemp seed produces three times more oil per acre than the next most productive seed oil crops, or over 300 gallons per acre, with a byproduct of 3 tons of food per acre. Hemp seed oil is also far more nutritious and beneficial for our health than any other seed oil crop.

    In addition to the food and oil produced, there are several other byproducts and benefits to the cultivation of hemp.

    2. Six to ten tons per acre of hemp bast fiber. Bast fiber makes canvas, rope, lace, linen, and ultra-thin specialty papers like cigarette and bible papers.

    3. Twenty-five tons of hemp hurd fiber. Hemp hurd fiber makes all grades of paper, composite building materials, animal bedding and a material for the absorption of liquids and oils.

    4. The deep tap root draws up sub-soil nutrients and then, when the leaves fall from the plant to the ground, they return these nutrients to the top soil for the next crop rotation.

    5. The residual flowers, after the seeds are extracted, produce valuable medicines.

    Our farmers need this valuable crop to be returned as an option for commercial agriculture.

    While marijuana is prohibited, industrial hemp will be economically prohibitive due to the artificial regulatory burdens imposed by the prohibition of marijuana. When marijuana and cannabis are legally regulated, industrial hemp will return to its rightful place in our agricultural economy.

    Hemp may be the plant that started humans down the road toward civilization with the invention of agriculture itself. All archaeologists agree that cannabis was among the first crops purposely cultivated by human beings at least over 6,000 years ago, and perhaps more than 12,000 years ago.

    Restoring industrial hemp to its rightful place in agriculture today will return much control to our farmers, and away from the multinational corporations that dominate our political process and destroy our environment. These capital-intensive, non-sustainable, and environmentally destructive industries have usurped our economic resources and clear-cut huge tracts of the world's forests, given us massive oil spills, wars, toxic waste, massive worldwide pollution, global warming and the destruction of entire ecosystems.

    Prohibiting the cultivation of this ancient plant, the most productive source of fiber, oil and protein on our planet, is evil. In its place we have industries that give us processes and products that have led to unprecedented ecological crisis and worldwide destruction of the biological heritage that we should bequeath to our children, grandchildren and future generations.

    Restore hemp!

    Posted by Andrew Snyder on 05/23/2009 @ 07:34PM PT

  80. R Moore

    I can attest to the ditch weed. I was stationed just north of Champaign Urbana inthe summer of 68 and they had a big article in the paper about it. You couldn't move down the country roads for people looking for ditch weed.

    The time is now. We must make our voices heard far and wide. We must be the loudest voice in the room. The thousands imprisoned for this needless prohibition are depending on us!

    Posted by R Moore on 05/24/2009 @ 09:58AM PT

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  82. jeffrey C oldman

    the smirk on obama's face here makes me sick

    Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 06/15/2009 @ 11:12AM PT

  83. jeffrey C oldman

    end the prohibition on cannabis and HEMP across the americas NOW OBAMA!

    defund 60% of cartel profits (which are in currency of U$ and guns).  defund much of our jails.  let the cops pursue criminals that pose HARM TO OTHERS. 

    defund much of our judicial system's overburdened overpaid workforce... consider we are well on pace to close to a million arrests PER YEAR for cannabis. 

    Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 06/15/2009 @ 11:15AM PT

  84. stan armstrong

    i don't think that it is right for people to force their opinions on anybody else. i don't care if i were the only one for marijuana, everybody else can make their own decisions.that shouldn't be the sole reason i can't enjoy myself.

    people seem to think that it's a gateway drug, a poison, it's to addictive, and much more. but the fact is, being legal you don't need a street dealer and you'd have a higher quality and safer substance, so your less likely to be introduced to harder drugs or unsafe or laced marijuana. alcohol has more of a gateway quality. if you look at the actual annual death toll, you can clearly see that caffeine has ended more lives than pot. it's no more addictive than coffee, cigarettes which kill hundreds of thousands each year and are still legal, alcohol which also kill almost as many, or even bad eating habits. even if death ain't the case, many would say "pot makes you throw your life away" no more than a gambling addiction. until i get caught ant prosecuted for victimless crime and a overwhelming bias opinion or just everyday laziness which from experience can be caused by cigarettes draining ones wind thus lowering energy in some people. or alcoholism. 

    there are laws against supplying a minor with alcohol cigarettes and other stuff, but that doesn't stop it from getting in the hand of minors. there are laws against drunk driving but that doesn't fully stop that now does it. there are always going to be reckless people. those of us that are responsible shouldn'thave to pay for their actions, because drinkers shure don't. many people get to enjoy their personal time doing what they like why can't we.

    tho i do believe that legalization would help the economy substantially. that should not be the sole reason to look into it. i think obama needs to look further into the issue at hand. he needs to quit making decisions based how much he thinks it will make the public support him more and make these decisions based on whats right, though right and wrong is just a matter of opinion other than gods word, i have a right to my opinion and as long as I'm not harming anyone else it shouldn't matter what that opinion is. i am religious and if it could be considered a sin by self destruction he also gave us the opportunity to be saved from our sins. i don't think that it is unhealthy though.

    for to long certain classes of people have been prosecuted and persecuted for others bias opinions based on what they were brought up to believe and learned through old technology.

    i actually voted for obama. I'm not saying that i don't like him but he does definitely have his pros and his cons. but then again anything is better than the last one to me. i think everyone needs to think about why they make the decisions they do and quit acting like were just a bunch of addicted dope heads trying yo get over and realize that were just tired of being left out. he needs to respect our thoughts just like every body Else's and not not just dismiss them with a laugh and a smirk on his face like he really knows exactly whats best cause he may be smart but nobody knows all but the big man upstairs and he needs to look were ever he can for help and take it all seriously. cause too many people believe that their morals and belief are perfect because they learn to believe what their taught and it was made popular by propaganda.

    also people think they help people by enforcing their opinion, but in reality they just ruin many good lives.

    the only real laws is the laws of physics and gods laws, other than that its all just opinion.

    Posted by stan armstrong on 09/23/2009 @ 01:43AM PT

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