Legalize the Medicinal and Recreational Use of Marijuana
Published February 03, 2009 @ 12:36PM PT
Every 36 seconds, someone in the U.S. is arrested for a marijuana offense. 89% of these are for marijuana possession — not for sale or manufacture, but simple possession. This comes at a major cost to American taxpayers, between $10 and $14 billion annually by conservative estimates. Yet despite this investment in fighting marijuana, the United States has the world’s highest rates of marijuana use.
Our current marijuana laws are failing. It's time for a new approach – strict regulation similar to how alcohol and tobacco are controlled – to reduce the criminal market and lower teen use.
The Marijuana Policy Project has been leading this effort for 14 years. Since our founding in 1995, we’ve helped pass medical marijuana laws in 13 states, decriminalize marijuana possession in Massachusetts, and change federal law to provide for the early release of hundreds of prisoners arrested for marijuana cultivation.
These victories have been won by slowly changing the attitudes of Americans. 41% of Americans now support making marijuana “legal,” and 79% support making medical marijuana available to the seriously ill. By taking action on change.org and following this campaign, you can educate even more people about the failures of marijuana prohibition and the need for change.
In the coming days, we’ll be talking about America’s failed war on marijuana and the benefits of a legal, taxed, and regulated system, as well as posting actions that will allow you to urge Congress to tackle this important issue.
I have a comment end this illegal war against the American poor and low income for making a choice. While the rich make the same choice but never go to jail unlsess your Chong!
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/03/2009 @ 12:49PM PT
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I am personally tired of waiting it is time for action join me in
Washington D.C. on July 4th 2009 for the Million Marijuana March on Wahington....
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
State Rep Georgia need help let me know!!
Our web site http://www.trm3-801.org/
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/03/2009 @ 12:54PM PT
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I am a young college student; barely 21. I have thought about running a multi-billion dollar company. But it has always been with the product being marijuana. I would love to pay taxes, and advertise my product, and test it. I would love to create thousands of jobs and help create a solely american product. But the laws prevent this so i cannot move forward. taxes would create astronomical extra income, property sales would increase, and money would be saved by focusing on harmful drugs. Marijuana or rather, Cannabis has never been proven to have negative effects in anyone longterm. I have smoked it for eight years now and am active in sports, politics, and other social areas. Regulate it and the people will praise you for it.
Posted by michael stegall on 02/03/2009 @ 01:00PM PT
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Raquel,
You are wrong! Cannabis does not kill brain cells. That myth comes from an early rhesus monkey study (Dr. Heath/Tulane Study, 1974 - http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/hemp/prohibition/no-clothes.html). The monkeys where subjected to extended periods of smoke inhalation through a gas mask strapped to their face. The resulting brain damage, actually caused by asphixiation, was purposely blamed on the cannabis that was being burned and pumped into the mask in order to strengthen the argument against cannabis.
It also does not make you lazy, I've done a lot of work including physically demanding construction work while smoking cannabis.
I also, while being considered a frequent user, can go not days but weeks or months without smoking it and not suffer any real detrimental effects.
To top it off I am a senior engineering student with a 3.54 GPA, one of the highest in my class. I am not alone. There are many many many completely productive and intellegent members of society who use cannabis responsibly.
Do some research before you spout off disproven propoganda. The truth will set you free!
Posted by Christopher S on 02/04/2009 @ 09:01AM PT
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Hey Raquel,
Does Alcohol not kill your brain cells, make you aggressive, and when a long time user goes without drinking for a few days will they not have mood swings??? I was a long time user and quit a few weeks ago and had none of those so called, "mood swings."
If something like alcohol, that is far more dangerous then marijuana, can be sold on every street and advertised daily on national television, then why should this prohibition of something harmless continue to hinder the possibility of creating thousands of jobs and millions of dollars in tax revenue????
By the way Raquel I once drank far too much alcohol and wound up in the hospital for 15 days, but when I smoked way too much marijuana, I just wound up being really relaxed and tired the next day, oh and no hang over either.
So can you explain to me why something like alcohol and cigarettes should be legal to sell and advertise, while the prohibition of marijuana should continue???
Posted by asfd asdfsdf on 02/04/2009 @ 09:05AM PT
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I am 60 years old and have smoked cannabis since I was 19 and in the Air Foirce. Who are you to tell me anything about what cannabis can and can't do. It's people like you who have kept this injustice alive all these years with misinformation and lies.
We're advocating changing the law, as Jefferson once said it's your patriotic duty to break unjust laws if need be. To change them!
I dispise ignorant people who pass around lies just to feel important.
Posted by R Moore on 02/04/2009 @ 10:16AM PT
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I think the most important point about the effects of marijuana is that it affects different people in different manners. That is where the grown folks makin' grown folk decisions comes in. I have been inhalin' for about 17 years now. The goal of marijuana activists is NOT to turn the world into pot smokers. Believe you me, the less that schmoke, the more there is for me! However we are fighting for the right to make our own choices. I am grown and am perfectly capable of doing that. I KNOW how it affects me and I choose accordingly as should the rest of the population.
Posted by Jessica Davis on 02/04/2009 @ 10:38AM PT
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as previously stated no real studies have ever been done. i simply ask for fair and accurate testing to be allowed. also YES i understand i just admitted it. why should i lie about using a non-harmful PLANT? second it doesnt make you lazy, i qoute MYSELF: "I have smoked it for eight years now and am active in sports, politics, and other social areas"
I play rugby and even gave my real name. I don't fear a corrupt system that bases most of it's laws on ideals and made up proof. i'm a biomedical engineering major and am very smart. I prefer scientific data to the ramblings of the arrogant few.
Posted by michael stegall on 02/04/2009 @ 11:40AM PT
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Actually Michael, you are incorrect that no real studies have been done. There have been many studies done in regards to cannabis human health and medicine. Most of them came back with postive results, but many of those were distroyed by the Nixon administration as he wanted to cover-up any positive support and even the studies that he funded came back stating that cannabis was safe and should be decriminalized, but he wouldn't have any of that so he shredded the reports and continued calling cannabis a dangerous poison.
Here's a link to the wikipedia article talking about Nixon's "National Commission on Marijuana and Drug Abuse":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Commission_on_Marijuana_and_Drug_Abuse
Here's a link to a summary of 65 human studies focusing on medicinal use (that's 65 out of literally hundreds of studies on cannabis):
http://norml.org/pdf_files/ReviewofHumanStudies.pdf
Posted by Christopher S on 02/04/2009 @ 12:03PM PT
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Thanks for correcting me, You are totally right. But i wonder if there are any more modern tests. Sorry, but most I can find are older than me. I think the results could vary due to the amount of new technology available. I'll look further into it to broaden my research.
Posted by michael stegall on 02/04/2009 @ 01:02PM PT
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Raquel Lee
I to am 60 and first experienced cannabis in the Air Force in 1972 I have lived a very successful fun rewarding life and I have not been to a doctor in 37 years... You believe what lies you choose It is a matter of personal freedom yours and mine. If you say I do not deserve to make a personal choice then are you saying you do not either? Think about it I am 60 and wiser than you I feel you repeat the lies you have been taught and do not seek the truth. If you follow this site we will show you the truth if you are open minded we will convert you to a warrior for our cause. Just listen and learn and keep an open mind.
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 07:35PM PT
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Raquel Lee
Start here http://www.november.org/thewall/wall/wall.html read the stories of kids like you who were put in jail for making a personal choice.
Or try here http://www.november.org/thewall/wall/wall.html see why the cops say the drugs are bad the war on drugs is worse!
If you prefer try this http://medicalmarijuanapatient.com/forum/showthread.php?t=65 and see why granny says cannabis saves lives and the problems it helps...
NEVER GIVE UP LEARNING, THE MORE YOU LEARN THE BIGGER PERSON YOU BECOME..
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 07:46PM PT
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oops the second one url should be
http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php
LEAP the good cop site!
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 07:48PM PT
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I believe in the freedom to choose what you want. And im looking into your information as well. i am not biased and i try to see all sides. i make decisions on truth, not values. so i'll always hear two sides of an argument. i think you presume im just a "pothead" but i believe in morality, ethics, and human freedoms; which i dont have in regards to marijuana.
Posted by michael stegall on 02/06/2009 @ 12:23PM PT
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NORML - Recent Research on Medicinal Marijuana - http://current.com/items/89794603/recent_research_on_medical_marijuana.htm
Posted by Christopher S on 02/07/2009 @ 02:32PM PT
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Michael here is a recent study, the largest of its kind, that banishes all ties between marijuana and lung cancer. This article is from 2006 and still it seems nobody knows about this particular study. This should have been a big enough breakthrough to majorly increase support of the legalization of marijuana. It needs to be seen.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html
Posted by Brendan Foley on 02/11/2009 @ 10:17PM PT
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Brendan, it seems your link is dead. Can that article be found elsewhere? I really want to read it.
"Marijuana kills your brain cells, makes you lazy..."
This could not be farther from the truth. I've been a regular smoker since age 17. I went through college, got a 3.8 GPA, graduated with a 4-year BS and I'm now the account manager of a multi-million dollar company that grows every year. I put in my 40 hours a week and then some. I have a lovely wife and a home and things couldn't be better...well...except that cannabis is still illegal for no good reason.
Posted by David Clark on 02/13/2009 @ 08:44AM PT
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729_pf.html
This one should work, but if it doesnt just search "marijuna lung cancer" on google and it should be the first link. I dont know why that link is dead though that's weird.
Posted by Brendan Foley on 02/13/2009 @ 02:22PM PT
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Thanks, Brendan!
So, if I read that article correctly, then THC essentially protects marijuana smokers from cancer, while tobacco does not? Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
I find it fascinating!
Posted by David Clark on 02/13/2009 @ 08:51PM PT
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As the cells in your lungs age, they become more and more likely to become cancerous. THC kills these aging cells thus slightly reducing your risk of cancer. What they're saying is that if it has any effect as far as cancer goes, it is a positive, preventative effect. They're not saying you should smoke it to prevent lung cancer because from what I've read in different articles on this study, the preventative effect that it has is not significant.
Posted by Brendan Foley on 02/14/2009 @ 12:16PM PT
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You don't have to wait for a national campaign to make a difference! You state reps want to hear from you. Find out if there is active legislation in your state. Write to your reps and ask them to support medical cannabis. Aiding the sick and dying is no longer "taboo." (Go figure.) Many state reps need to know that supporting this cause is not tantamount to political suicide. Be active at the state and local level, and keep your eyes peeled here for national news, along with MPP and NORML!
Posted by Mike White on 02/03/2009 @ 01:21PM PT
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I just complete my daily email to the white house it only takes a second join me in this effort to move our issue forward.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/eop/opl/
This is called the front door to the White House at the above URL.
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/03/2009 @ 01:22PM PT
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That is a good idea, for everybody. I myself send him a full 5000K letter at least once a week. I know he doesn't read them, but presumable someone does, and he gets abstracts. It may not do any good (he's unusually pig-headed about pot - it must seem like bad politics - however, politics shoulds have nothing to do with it), but it's still the right thing to do, and might just tip the scale. How long can he continue to ignore the will of the masses? I know I can hold out as long as it takes.
Posted by Richard Savary on 11/04/2009 @ 12:44PM PT
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Guys, good news.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/03/daschle/index.html
Tom Daschle won't be head of HHS. At least we have that.
Posted by Jacob "Bear" Elert on 02/03/2009 @ 01:36PM PT
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I would like to propose that someone approach Mike Phelps about sponsorship. That is, lets get him in an add supporting marijuana. Sounds like he'll be needing endorsements after being caught smoking a bong in celebration of his Olympic victory!
Posted by Marnin Wolfe on 02/03/2009 @ 02:03PM PT
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Mike if smart will low profile this issue he has hundreds of millions at stake and will be forced like many of us to go underground for fear of our leaders in the FED.
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 08:30PM PT
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That is a truly GENIOUS IDEA!!!! legalization has not gotten nearly the amount of publicity a picture of one person smoking did. He could become the role model for change in our marijuana laws.
Posted by Conner Hoyt on 02/05/2009 @ 04:26PM PT
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Marijuana won't ever be legal unless we stop looking at it as if it's a drug. It is, but so are many of the things we love most; ie aocohol, cigarettes, non-perscripton medications. In america, drugs aren't illegal. What is are those certain substances whose recreational use outweighs their other uses. So, what is the first step to making Marijuana legal? First, we need to present it as a budget issue. The programs that cause recreational smokers so much trouble are spending a good chunk of our mational budget. Everyone sees the signs that these programs are inadequate, so why not reduce them to save money? This is something elected officials are more willing to accept.
The next step doesn't deal with Marijuana at all, but hemp (the male). Hemp is already used in many imported products and approval for it's use in industry would open American's eyes. Most people don't know the facts about hemp and how useful it can be. Not to mention, the Constitution is printed on hemp. When hemp becomes widely accepted, it's sister will soon follow. Currently, many states have programs that tax Marijuana, even though it is illegal. We can join the fight for no taxation without legalization. People already have to evade the law, and they don't need the added charge of tax evasion for possession wihout a tax stamp. Having said this, the best outcome would be to keep the taxes and legalize it.
We can also fight the budget by arguing for less harsh penalties for those in the system for marijuana use or sale. People don't like the idea of legalizing Marijuana, so present them with the idea to make it a minor violation. Most people are more willing to cooperate when you present them with probation instead of jail time and a fine instead of probation. It would be huge to have possession not show up as criminal, but like a traffic sitation.
This is just what I think. Peace
Posted by track star on 02/03/2009 @ 02:39PM PT
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Don't forget to go to this website about Michael Phelps's bong incident:
http://blog.thehill.com/2009/02/03/why-condemn-phelps-when-we-ought-to-condemn-the-laws-that-brand-him-a-criminal/
I heard that they might actually try charge him criminally for it! It's clear that this makes him just another victim of the War on Drugs. Now the best Olympic athlete in history might be put in JAIL for smoking cannabis. Make sure to comment on this!
Posted by Lance C on 02/03/2009 @ 04:30PM PT
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Let’s talk about morality....
What's more immoral than locking up our citizens for using a harmless substance while condoning and profiting from the consumption of more dangerous substances like tobacco and alcohol (not to mention many dangerous prescription and OTC drugs)??
What's more immoral than refusing patients safe, affordable and effective medicine and threatening to throw them in jail if they use it??
What's more immoral than continuing to prolong this war against a plant that could actually be a means of reversing global warming and providing a valuable clean and renewable resource for fuel, paper, construction materials, clothing, not to mention the most nutritious edible seed in the world??
You may want to dismiss this as a bunch of potheads who just want to smoke their herb freely, but you fail to realize that the picture is MUCH MUCH BIGGER!! There are so many reasons why we should be utilizing this plant, not just for herbal relaxation, but for the good of every human on the planet!!!
What's immoral is continuing this policy of ignorance!
Posted by Christopher S on 02/03/2009 @ 04:32PM PT
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I like the way you think and well stated.
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/03/2009 @ 05:39PM PT
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Well said! I couldn't agree with you more.
Posted by Seth F on 02/04/2009 @ 08:57AM PT
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I read on ONDCP that they have picked a new acting "drug czar" for now. I'm not sure if he is there permanently or not, but I believe he was someone from during the Clinton administration. Not sure what his feelings are on DEA raids and whatnot, but I think he'll be better than the previous Bush administrations' cronies. Anyway here's my feelings about our upcoming battle for legalization. Recent events have actually made me think that this might happen sooner than we think. All in only a short period of time, Michael Phelps gets caught in a picture ripping a bong, and Obama's half-brother gets arrested for cannabis possession (not here in the USA, but still). They can no longer ignore the problem with our laws, because of all the living proof of the damage that has been caused by prohibition. All it does is make criminals out of people who really aren't criminals.
So my prediction is:
There will probably be some sort of Federal decriminalization in the next 4 years. Whether this will be rescheduling cannabis to a more appropriate level (like 3 or 4 or something-- not sure what the rules on all these are) or just Barney Frank getting his bill through Congress. Frank and Ron Paul have their work cut out for themselves on this one, but I think we can pull it off now with the new Congress (we'll see). Last time they introduced legislation there were a lot of cosponsors on it, probably will be even more this time. I'm hopeful at least.
As far as all-out legalization, maybe if he gets re-elected for another 4 years. I think Congress is not fully ready to allow full-out legalization because of the problems they think that will cause them. We shall see... I would love to have it legal within his first term!
Posted by Lance C on 02/03/2009 @ 06:40PM PT
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I don't believe that I'd re-elect Obama if he doesn't fully and publicly support legalization within the next 4 years.
Prohibition has gone on far too long already. Enough is enough.
Posted by David Clark on 02/03/2009 @ 08:07PM PT
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At this point im giving him less than 100 days... if hes gonna accomplish anything itl be with in that time.
Posted by Nick A on 02/03/2009 @ 08:32PM PT
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I think anyone expecting Obama to act swiftly is being a bit unrealistic and threatening to not support him is counter-productive.
He knows the facts, but one of those facts is that this country, especially the government, is still under the influence of nearly a decade of misinformation and religious dogmas that are strongly against cannabis.
We have made leaps and bounds in enlightening much of the public with the help of organizations like NORML and MPP, but we still have a ways to go. Obama can't do anything on his own. He needs overwhelming public support as well as the support of the House if he is ever to make such a "bold" step as to contradict what many of our previous leaders (including vice pres and drug-warrior Joe Biden) have been enforcing for way too long now.
Not to mention all the internal resistance and still somewhat lacking of public consent, but if you haven't noticed the world is in turmoil right now and I can't even imagine being the person everyone's looking to for solutions.
Yes, we know that cannabis prohibition is wrong and that ending it CAN make a huge difference in MANY problems facing our society. That is exactly why this movement has to involve EVERYONE. If you really want Obama to change this policy of ignorance then you need to be doing everything you can to make sure that the PUBLIC learns the truth as well as sending as many letters to your representatives as you can.
Obama is a rational man, but he knows moving too soon on this issue could be political suicide without full public consent. If he were to loose political credit it could mean major difficulties in addressing many other pressing issues.
Keep on fighting, but don't act like Obama doesn't care. He knows the truth, but he also knows the possible consequences and risks to himself and his ability to work with many groups who don't necessarily want or care about cannabis decriminalization.
First thing that needs to happen is the rescheduling of cannabis to reflect the medicinal qualities and the benign health risks. That is a small step that would probably not be that difficult for him to make.
Posted by Christopher S on 02/04/2009 @ 08:35AM PT
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Christopher is correct. We must not become over zelous and do things that could actually harm our cause rather we must stay focused on the goal. How can you say you wouldn't vote for Obama again now when you don't even know who he would be running against? That type of talk is short sighted and foolish. We could end up with some Republican hard-core drug warrior in the White House that could undo everything we have accomplished. I believe we are nearing the finish line but it is not quite yet the time for an all out sprint.
Posted by Jeremy Helbing on 02/04/2009 @ 12:01PM PT
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It would be so simple I will go with the 100 days I have been waiting for 37 years and its getting old like me!!
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 07:21PM PT
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Right On, Christopher!
Good idea to put the #1 issue first.
'Scuzemeifirepeat ...
CHANGE THE CAMPAIGN NAME TO
RE-LEGALIZE CANNABIS!
(a.) "re-legalization because it's true" ~(kellysmith?), There is a LONG HISTORY of Cannabis use [as pointed out by (David G.??).]; IMPLY IT WITH ONE WORD.
(b.) Use the name CANNABIS because it is SCIENTIFICALLY CORRECT without so many past connotations of all the other names that remind people of "Reefer Madness" and other propaganda. [keep in mind that BRO BHO is interested in SCIENTIFIC approaches ].
(c.) "Cannabizz" ~(dokkie u.) is a good name for the Commercial aspect.
(d.) "yeah, the unconscious mind is a funny thing" ~recentMPPblogger agrees. -- The far right knows this. It is a good technique to find exactly the words that carry the exact connotations we need to communicate. This tech can be used for disseminating truths as well as "fictions".
Posted by Ani L. Schwartz on 02/03/2009 @ 06:41PM PT
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Appropriate to remember how SMALL a part of the population even knew of, much less used, cannabis back when it was long ago legal... some jazz musicians, some tribal people, some hoboes. Criminalization has created HUGE use, and a huge tribe as well, witness the affection for this issue. I don't think "re-legalization of cannabis" (I promise to continue using that terminology --thanks so much for bringing this to our attention, Ani) warrents being our first issue, but I support all the changes re-legalization would bring. It is truly a moral issue.
Ellie H. I I am a retiree)
Posted by Eleanor Hjemmet on 02/04/2009 @ 09:12AM PT
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Violin lady are you going to be in DC July th? I bet you are a trip in person!! CFHSKHJZ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 07:18PM PT
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http://www.dccc.org/content/ideas
...interactive conference call...? Not sure what this is all about, but I'm signed up. Come one, come all.
"The strength of our party and our majority comes from your ideas. Please submit your ideas for change using the form below"
http://www.dccc.org/content/ideas
Posted by MJ Mathisen on 02/03/2009 @ 07:01PM PT
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Marshall I went to the site do you have an idea up I can support?
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 07:16PM PT
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"The Union: The Business Behind Getting High"
http://blip.tv/file/1356143/
Here's a teaser clip, 10min on YouTube, but very informational. Spread the word!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6HESjH-Zsg
Posted by Christopher S on 02/03/2009 @ 07:30PM PT
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I really do think we need to legalize marijuana, not many people realize how much this would help with the economy and with the problems we are having with running out of room in jails. This would also help bring the US more money, we can tax tobacco, we can tax marijuana.
Posted by Kip Thurston on 02/03/2009 @ 09:11PM PT
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Nobody wants to talk about this-
...because nobody wants to appear soft
on people who didn't really do anything?
Posted by Ben de Moura on 02/03/2009 @ 11:51PM PT
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Its the money man all about the money!!
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 07:14PM PT
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We seem to be going backwards with this. I have been smoking since I was 15. I'm not going to say how old I am, but let's just say I'm not young. When I started it was a misdemeanor in the state and city in which I live. I now have to worry about going to jail for smoking a herb (weed). This country has it's priorities all messed up. Enough is enough. Progress not Regress.
Posted by Tina Congdon on 02/04/2009 @ 05:27AM PT
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Progress not Regress!
The Opposite of Progress is Congress
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/08/2009 @ 03:22AM PT
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I am glad that legalization is on the top of the list still. I really appreciate the effort that has been put forth so far to stand up and speak about how YOU want change. This is just a stepping stone. I believe that if you legalize cannabis and have it regulated, people just might wake up. I'll stop before I start rambling.
THANK YOU FOR STANDING UP
The American Marijuana Movement of 2009
Posted by Kevin Olena on 02/04/2009 @ 05:35AM PT
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Imagine how many of our grandparents would have been criminals if we arrested consumers of alcohol during Alcohol Prohibition. During that sad period in our history, efforts were concentrated on the suppliers, mainly because of the sales taxes that were being avoided. When prohibition of alcohol was lifted, a system of regulation and taxation was put in place that works well to this day.
In this modern "Drug War" , consumers of of America's oldest known safe and tolerated medication, cannabis, are having their lives destroyed. Parents and children are being torn apart. If we really value the family in America, we will stop arresting non-violent cannabis users.
Posted by David Patterson on 02/04/2009 @ 05:43AM PT
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There are a lot of grandparents that would be in trouble around a MJ dog as well. I am a hippy form the 60s that would make me a grandparent!
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 07:12PM PT
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I agree with Ani – we should be speaking in terms of re-legalization. And make no mistake, legalization – not decriminalization - must be our goal.
This is true for many reasons, but IMO the most important is that only legalization removes the supply chain from the hands of criminals. Decriminalization continues our ill-advised policy of funding and arming not only street gangs, but vicious drug cartels and even terrorists. Legalization moves the supply chain into the hands of licensed businessmen who will settle their grievances in the courts rather than on the streets.
Posted by Leroy Casterline on 02/04/2009 @ 06:02AM PT
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Hey Nanc;
You don't believe alot of valuable resources, especially at the local and state levels, on the enforcement, incarceration and "treatment" of cannabis consumers is a waste? There is alot of money and other resources involved, and they could be freed-up to do more to help than to harm.
Candidate Obama said that it was time to rid government of what doesn't work and retain that which does work. If the war on cannabis is so successful, then it is incumbent upon him, and the others who feel the same, to explain why. And if it is such a success, then why not use it as a model for other programs?
It is clear that the issue is a big one; that's why it is #1. The war on this plant is responsible, in large part, for the cynical view held by today's youth of law enforcement officials and elected officials. This society has effectively removed the community peace officers from the community and replaced them with militarized warriors. If we would simply take the War out of the War on Drugs, we might be able to put "peace" back into peace officer and place the peace officer back into the community, where they belong.
So, yes Nancy, the issue is big.
And it's time for a change.
Posted by Jarrod Loerzel on 02/04/2009 @ 07:36AM PT
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You are plucking the words out of my mind Jarrod. Deregulation should start at the bottom. The criminal here is the law that makes Cannibus against the law. I voted for this action also & I was amazed it turned out to be # 1. I never dreamed so many other people felt the same way. I do not partake myself but I will fight for the rights of American's to do so. The people who do not support this should be jailed for drinking herbal tea. Maybe they should be jailed for thinking about it if they have a tea-pot. Herbal tea paraphinalia. We have had enough of frivolous laws that are meant to keep a tight fisted control over the population while we are being robbed blind by big business.
Posted by Carrie Marc on 02/04/2009 @ 09:23AM PT
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I've broken free from the ice and I have electricity again!!! Now it's time to continue the good fight for legalization. The government really came through and helped re-build my town and I'm thankful, but now it's time to re-examine these evil corporate anti-marijuana laws.
Posted by Derrick Jordan on 02/04/2009 @ 07:41AM PT
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I am very happy that the time has come for rational adult discussion of the drug war policies and the effect it has on American families, the job market and even the vested interest it creates in sustaining the prision-industrial complex. In a country where people can be ajiled for a plant and then hired out to private companies through programs like "work release" it becomes apparent that there may be a problem. We are creating a new type of slave labor and that is just on tiny facte of the problems we have created. We should not have a society that profits off of creating criminals and locking people up or running them through the legal system.
Also the effect on higher education because of the impossibility of getting Federal financial aid makes it very hard for felons to right themselves. It makes no sense to limit opportunity to grow and become productive members of society. Instead they get caught in the same cycle of the system.
Additionally it makes it hard for ex-felons to get jobs, the most important factor in creating a healthy, crime fee life, is hampered. Once someone does a crime, if they go to jail, get probation, or DO whatever time is allotted by society, the stigma of the problem should not follow you around after that.
I hope we can work together to see that while yes there are problems outside of our country, starvation, genocide, and terrible human tragedies, there is much self-inflicted suffering in this country due to the drug war.
How do I know?
I am a single father who has raised a child while his mother is in jail for drug possession. We were already divorecd and I did not support her decisions, but by removing her from our son's life for a non-violent consensual crime, I feel that my son was slighted. Yes it was her actions, but what kind of a society are we that does this?
Posted by Jeremy Davis on 02/04/2009 @ 07:55AM PT
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I can't seem to post this video
on Change.org. Could anyone help me? It's titled "Raiding California: Marijuana and Minors" and offers a very compassionate look at the people who are suffering without marijuana.
Posted by Jacob "Bear" Elert on 02/04/2009 @ 08:17AM PT
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Here's the link:
http://reason.tv/video/show/413.html
Posted by Jacob "Bear" Elert on 02/04/2009 @ 08:17AM PT
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Thanks for the link Bear I also kicked in 10 bucks for his aid we need to raise enough to get this guy relaesed. How stupid can the FEDS get?
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 06:45PM PT
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I think anyone expecting Obama to act swiftly is being a bit unrealistic and threatening to not support him is counter-productive.
He knows the facts, but one of those facts is that this country, especially the government, is still under the influence of nearly a decade of misinformation and religious dogmas that are strongly against cannabis.
We have made leaps and bounds in enlightening much of the public with the help of organizations like NORML and MPP, but we still have a ways to go. Obama can't do anything on his own. He needs overwhelming public support as well as the support of the House if he is ever to make such a "bold" step as to contradict what many of our previous leaders (including vice pres and drug-warrior Joe Biden) have been enforcing for way too long now.
Not to mention all the internal resistance and still somewhat lacking of public consent, but if you haven't noticed the world is in turmoil right now and I can't even imagine being the person everyone's looking to for solutions.
Yes, we know that cannabis prohibition is wrong and that ending it CAN make a huge difference in MANY problems facing our society. That is exactly why this movement has to involve EVERYONE. If you really want Obama to change this policy of ignorance then you need to be doing everything you can to make sure that the PUBLIC learns the truth as well as sending as many letters to your representatives as you can.
Obama is a rational man, but he knows moving too soon on this issue could be political suicide without full public consent. If he were to loose political credit it could mean major difficulties in addressing many other pressing issues.
Keep on fighting, but don't act like Obama doesn't care. He knows the truth, but he also knows the possible consequences and risks to himself and his ability to work with many groups who don't necessarily want or care about cannabis decriminalization.
First thing that needs to happen is the rescheduling of cannabis to reflect the medicinal qualities and the benign health risks. That is a small step that would probably not be that difficult for him to make.
Posted by Christopher S on 02/04/2009 @ 08:37AM PT
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With a person being arrested every thirty six seconds and 800,000 arrests a year for doing something that obviously had no adverse effect on you (and millions of other past smokers), it has gone on long enough. It is hypocrisy at its finest! We are the country with the most per capita prison population in the entire free world! Families have been ruined, felons created, unable to get productive jobs. Maybe that is part of the reason the economy is bad. Take the young people out of the work force and production goes down! The young people have spoken in the vote. They voted for change. If this administration turns into the same old non-substance government that we have seen for decades, I doubt the young voter, or the Internet crowd, is going to let it ride. He campaigned on the platform of "change." Unlike older generations before us, I think the now generation is going to demand TRUTH and HONESTY from its politicians. That would be absolutely refreshing! IMHO
Posted by Michael Langley on 02/04/2009 @ 11:21AM PT
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Whether Obama acts swiftly or not worldwide legalization of Cannabis would save the world's economy and cause the collapse of the Black Market. Marijuana is the financial base of the Black Market. Remove it and it collapses. Not to mention the many multi-billion dollar industries that come from the Cannabis plant i.e., Fuel, Food, Cltohing, Fiber, economic freedom and of course medicine. Wake up and smell the scent of money.
Posted by Jeff Elton on 02/04/2009 @ 08:53AM PT
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You know, this whole marijuana thing is out of control. We need to stop looking at it in such a negative manner. I grew up living with my alcoholic grandfather who would beat me just because he was angry for his own stupid reasons. I have NEVER heard of somebody smoking pot, and beating on their kids or grandchildren. I have personally seen alcohol ruin multiple lives. I have yet to see the use of marijuana ruin anybody's lives, only through the legal system has it hurt people's lives. Personally, I would rather weed be legal than alcohol any day. Alcohol is such a nasty drug when compared to marijuana, and alcohol is legal! It's amazing, the government needs to realize that this isn't a bunch of immature self-recognized "pot-heads", trying to make marijuana legal so that they can get high all day long. But that this is people from every level of life smoking this, who are tired of all the legal crap behing smoking it! These people pay taxes! and boost our economy through the businesses they own! These people are also working within our government who smoke weed! They have families and wonderful careers, and they volunteer, the list goes on and on. Ease up on marijuana, it's so stupid that all this money has to be spent on this issue, when there is so much more that needs to be worried about in America. Legalize it already. Enough of the beating around the bush, they know the stuff isn't that bad, but they aren't willing to admit it for fear of reprisal from their "comrades" in the government arena.
Posted by Tommy Smith on 02/04/2009 @ 08:53AM PT
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While I appreciate and sympathize with ending the drug war because of the myriad injustices it inflicts on those who use drugs, for whatever reasons they choose, I do not think that the war on drugs or cannabis legalization will ever be motivated by these concerns. In fact I think that those who support the prohibition do so BECAUSE they support these injustices being inflicted on others who they dislike or disagree with.
But I do believe that legalization can happen. And happen sooner rather than later if it is motivated right. That motivation is the public safety and national security self interest of American tax payers. I think the most important argument against prohibition is the criminal anarchy on our streets and the terrorist anarchy around the world that are funded and supported by the prohibition black market economy.
I have written several essays about this on my blog, Aid and comfort. http://drugwartreason.blogspot.com/
Posted by P R on 02/04/2009 @ 09:52AM PT
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You got it lets tell everybody!!!
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
State rep Ga Million Marijuana March July 4 2009
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Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/11/2009 @ 02:29PM PT
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Okay, you've gotten this far. Now what? I'll get off Change.orgs butt if we get this thing going but all I've seen so far is lip service. What do you want us to do and lets get doing it?
We have pictures of Michael Phelps, Arnold Schwarzenegger and probably a few other celebs smoking marijuana. The lie that cannabis is bad for you is been debunked. Lets go!
Posted by R Moore on 02/04/2009 @ 10:22AM PT
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One thing that we all can do is support the organizations which work to end prohibition. LEAP (Law Enforcement Against Prohibition) is one of my favorites.LEAP is an organization of thousands of current and former police officers, prosecutors, judges and so forth who have come to the conclusion that prohibition causes far more harm than the drugs that choose to prohibit.Howard Wooldridge, one of their more visible members, was a guest on the Mike Rosen show not long ago (you can find a link to a recording of the show on their website). http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php
Posted by Leroy Casterline on 02/04/2009 @ 02:47PM PT
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We need to debate people!
Start calling and emailing the people you and your fellow American's put in power!
If anything else, simply ask them, what their views on cannabis are. They'll probably say, it's too potent, gateway drug, or what would are kids think. Nonetheless continue to inform them of the current reform and actual changes happening with marijuana legalization / regulation.
Start with your community,
Then with your city,
Then join up with your county,
And stand up with your state,
For this debate we will not look at our own agendas, or own race, or own thinking, but rather have scientific data and real society conquer fear tactics and guilt and shame.
We need flyers, brochures, stickers, freebies, hats and tee's, just start somewhere! Anywhere!
Save that bowl of freedom for after the fight, so you and everyone can see, the true goodness this plant has to bring to us all, esp. once you don't need the constant double-take for LEO's.
Posted by Chris White on 02/04/2009 @ 10:34AM PT
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I think the fliers idea is great!! You could post some interesting facts about how tobacco and alcohol are actually more dangerous than cannabis, the medicinal values of cannabis, AND the economic ramifications of not only legalizing Cannabis but hemp as a natural renewable resource! Then include some links to worthy sites containing more information and encourage people to discuss this topic with others and ask their representatives to support the cause.
Good idea!! I get car wash and pizza coupon fliers stuck on my car all the time. What about a truely informational one!!
Posted by Christopher S on 02/04/2009 @ 12:13PM PT
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Maybe what we need for our campaign is a really easy to sort through web page hosting the ultimate marijuana FAQ that has an answer to everything, so when we get those emails/letters back from our representatives, we can fire back right away with facts. That way, we don't all tire ourselves out relentlessly searching for answers when we could be firing back emails/letters as soon as we see something back from them. Plus, we'd all be pulling our answers from the same pool, maintaining consistency.
What do you think? Does such a thing already exist somewhere on these great internets of ours?
Posted by David Clark on 02/04/2009 @ 01:23PM PT
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Well, there's sites by NORML and MPP that have lots of available information, but it's not really presented it a purly informational way. We really could use a sight that is geared to inform the uninformed from the moment they enter the site. Complete with video clips and an insanely long list of references....
Posted by Christopher S on 02/08/2009 @ 06:51AM PT
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gen⋅o⋅cidePronunciation [jen-uh-sahyd]
–noun the deliberate and systematic extermination of a national, racial, political, or cultural group.
How long has this been going on in this country with cannabis users? Maybe we should end the Genocide against American citizens.
Posted by MJ Mathisen on 02/04/2009 @ 11:38AM PT
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Legalize it
And I will advertise it
Posted by Matt Hilend on 02/04/2009 @ 12:02PM PT
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The only reason it isn't legal or will be is because there is to much money in it for the big boys, and they don't want to loose their gravy train. Just think about how much money is made by keeping it illegal . Look how many jobs are created and how many people are making a great living off keeping it a crime to use. If they would legalize it and tax it - that would make to much sense.
Posted by Mavis Fleming on 02/04/2009 @ 12:45PM PT
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DITTO
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 08:57PM PT
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Rally the ACLU to Reform Marijuana Laws!!!!!
Subject: marijuana law reform
From: anonymous@mac.com
Date: February 4, 2009 11:38:53 AM PST
To: Executive_director@aclu.org
I support your organization and respect the work you do to preserve American's civil liberties. A subject that I have never heard the ACLU engage is marijuana law reform. It is my belief that putting humans in steel cages for using and/or cultivating a plant (a quite helpful plant by all scientific analysis) is the definition of cruel and unusual punishment. The dangers of marijuana are the laws and penalties imposed upon those who are caught violating them. The most heinous crime is the loss of personal freedom these laws circumvent. The most heinous of criminals are those that continue to support and enforce these laws. The internet community has spoken loud and clearly on this issue "if anyone out there is listening". The war on marijuana users has failed, marijuana users are good everyday people from all walks of life; plumbers, nurses, musicians, barbers, lawyers, programers, clerks, machinists, American presidents, American presidents brothers, students, doctors, artists, architects, Olympic athletes, cops, politicians, winners, losers, dreamers, and pragmatics; they are not for the most part, the media created wastiod stereotypes. Many responsible adults use cannabis to reduce stress and enhance relaxation, some for it's medicinal benefits still others as sacrament, a trifecta of bounty that in god's wisdom has been bestowed upon humanity. It is a wonder that "free people" would thank the creator by banning, eradicating, and criminalizing the fruits of this beautiful planet. I look forward to hearing from you on this subject. Failure to address this issue leaves me with questions as to just how serious your organization is about one of the biggest civil liberties violations facing America today.
Contemplatively, Terry K.
Glide, Oregon
"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win." -- Gandhi
Posted by T K on 02/04/2009 @ 01:34PM PT
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The ACLU is active in this area, at least WRT MMJ (not that I wouldn't like to see them do more). From the ACLU website:
The ACLU Drug Law Reform Project is a division of the national ACLU. Our goal is to end punitive drug policies that cause the widespread violation of constitutional and human rights, as well as unprecedented levels of incarceration.
http://www.aclu.org/drugpolicy/medmarijuana/index.html
Posted by Leroy Casterline on 02/04/2009 @ 03:43PM PT
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If marijuana was THAT bad why is it slowly being decriminlized in many states? Do you think states would consider legalizing any drug besides marijuana? I doubt you will ever see cocain or heroin be legalized! Those are the drugs that need to be off the streets! Not mary j!
Posted by Matt Marco on 02/04/2009 @ 01:39PM PT
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Matt good point but it was a vote of the people that the FEDS keep ignoring. When did the Federal goverment get the right to overrule a vote by the people? We are becoming more and more like N--- Germany if you look to history we are getting close. Bush even allowed our military might used against us! They lie we fight!!
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 07:04PM PT
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I wouldn't trust government actions to judge the moral value of smoking pot! I.e., the fact that some states are decriminalizing marijuana, does not prove that it's not bad. On the contrary, it's the other way around! But I think that's what you meant.
I too am generally opposed to legalizing any powerfully addictive drugs. Those are the drugs that can take over and dominate a person's life, and the same that are involved in most ODs. But we don't really need them. There are a number of completely non-addictive psychedelics that are a LOT more interesting, and not nearly as dangerous.
Marijuana is definitely the most important drug that is unnecessarily prohibited. It is so much less harmful than the legal drugs, it can probably, mostly be considered harmless.
How long must we indulge the government such a hypocritical position on drugs? How long must our drug of choice, the least harmful of them all, continue to be prohibited? We must continue to work for and demand legalization - until we get it!
Posted by Richard Savary on 11/04/2009 @ 11:41PM PT
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Paper made from hemp was used for books, Bibles,
maps, and money. You can produce four times as much
paper from an acre of hemp as you can from an acre of
trees at one quarter the cost, 1/5 the pollution, it is 10
times stronger and lasts up to 1000 years instead of only
50. And it can be recycled four times as many times as
paper from woodpulp. The Constitution was printed on
hemp paper as well as the first three drafts of the
declaration of independence. Even great sailing ships
like the U. S. S. Constitution were made primarily out of
hemp. Hemp is the strongest natural fiber on the planet.
Hemp is 26 times stronger than Cotton, and 10 times
longer lasting. The first Levi jeans were made out of
hemp as well as all of the soldiers clothes for the
Revolutionary war. It requires no chemicals to grow, has
very few natural enemies, and grows in the widest variety
of climates of any weed or plant. It is also the fastest
growing plant on the planet, growing four times faster
than corn. The seeds from the hemp plant provide the
highest source of complete vegetable proteins of any
food source on earth. Even higher than soybeans. It has
also been realized lately that the hemp seed is the
highest source of essential fatty acids in the world is
Essential, meaning: necessary for life, fatty acids are
necessary for us and beneficial for cleaning the
cholesterol out of the arteries naturally. All oils in the
supermarket are bad since they are placed in clear
plastic containers and exposed to direct sunlight. They
become as bad as saturated fats, and end up causing
cholesterol buildup, leading to heart attacks, et cetera.
Quote from:
Secret History of America
STOP GMO's
Posted by No Change here Same ole Bush-Shit on 02/04/2009 @ 01:44PM PT
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Yesterday, the DEA simultaneously raided four medical cannabis dispensing collectives in Los Angeles. This is the second time, in as many weeks, that the DEA has defied President Obama’s campaign pledges to not use federal resources to undermine state medical cannabis laws.
Our community is in an uproar and we are not going to take this lying down! The L.A. Times even published an article suggesting that maybe DEA hadn’t gotten the memo that Bush is out? The U.S. Senate just confirmed Attorney General Eric Holder to lead the Department of Justice under the Obama Administration. We expect this to be the FIRST and LAST of the DEA raids under Eric Holder’s leadership. President Obama said he would stop the raids, and we aim to hold him to his word.
Enough is enough! Please make two short phone calls so that both the President and the Attorney General know that people are sick and tired of DEA interference, and intimidation in medical cannabis states. Tell your federal government that you will not tolerate wasteful spending by having DEA harass innocent civilians with smash and grab tactics.First call President Obama at (202) 456-1111, and then call Attorney General Eric Holder at (202) 353-1555. Be sure to call during office hours, Monday – Friday, 9am -5pm. Use this script for both: "Hi, my name is ___________. For the second time under President Obama, the DEA conducted raids on multiple medical marijuanadispensaries in California, despite the President’s pledge to end federal threats, intimidation, and interference in states that have medical marijuana laws. Patients and providers should not have to live in fear of the DEA. Please help us and stop these raids now!."
This is our chance under President Obama. We have to get his attention, and we need your help. Once you’ve made this phone call, please forward this message to friends and family. Then visit www.whitehouse.gov/contact to copy and paste the above message.ShareThis
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Posted by MJ Mathisen on 02/04/2009 @ 02:45PM PT
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Yesterday, the DEA simultaneously raided four medical cannabis dispensing collectives in Los Angeles. This is the second time, in as many weeks, that the DEA has defied President Obama’s campaign pledges to not use federal resources to undermine state medical cannabis laws.
Our community is in an uproar and we are not going to take this lying down! The L.A. Times even published an article suggesting that maybe DEA hadn’t gotten the memo that Bush is out?
The U.S. Senate just confirmed Attorney General Eric Holder to lead the Department of Justice under the Obama Administration. We expect this to be the FIRST and LAST of the DEA raids under Eric Holder’s leadership. President Obama said he would stop the raids, and we aim to hold him to his word.
Enough is enough! Please make two short phone calls so that both the President and the Attorney General know that people are sick and tired of DEA interference, and intimidation in medical cannabis states. Tell your federal government that you will not tolerate wasteful spending by having DEA harass innocent civilians with smash and grab tactics.First call President Obama at (202) 456-1111, and then call Attorney General Eric Holder at (202) 353-1555. Be sure to call during office hours, Monday – Friday, 9am -5pm.
Use this script for both:
"Hi, my name is ___________. For the second time under President Obama, the DEA conducted raids on multiple medical marijuanadispensaries in California, despite the President’s pledge to end federal threats, intimidation, and interference in states that have medical marijuana laws. Patients and providers should not have to live in fear of the DEA. Please help us and stop these raids now!."
This is our chance under President Obama. We have to get his attention, and we need your help. Once you’ve made this phone call, please forward this message to friends and family. Then visit www.whitehouse.gov/contact to copy and paste the above message.
Posted by MJ Mathisen on 02/04/2009 @ 02:54PM PT
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Thanks for everyone's support! Mr. Fred Hood, I hope I have the chance to meet you in D.C. this July 4th! (http://www.trm3-801.org/)
Also everyone check out http://www.globalmarijuanamarch.org/
Well I have two comments. First, make Michael Phelps the poster boy of this campaign! I am half joking and half serious. Second, if their is anyone reading this that would like to help out our grassroots initiative in NJ, check out the message boards at http://forums.normlnj.org/. Post a comment that you'd like to help out and either I or several other people will give you the information you need to know. Well I hope to here from some prospective volunteers! :) In the meantime, I'll be surfing to this website occasionally to see what people are saying. My advice to you, get involved with a NORML or MPP chapter in your state. Only we can bring about real change!
Peace and love to all.
Posted by J. Gandhi on 02/04/2009 @ 05:29PM PT
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Signed up for the may march as well I assume it is a local march? Any way I will be there..
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 08:20PM PT
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Gandhi you can bet I will be there with feathers and bells on..
I have read all the post and as usual cringe when I see any negativity. Also when people say wait another 4 or 5 years. I say we push and have this issue ended in 2009. It has been too long to many people are in or going to jail. Too much money is being wasted daily. I am ready for this illegal war on our rights ended. Please be more be positive just like our leader President Obama said, yes we can. If we continue to educate and spread the word we can do it. Like the video Bear put up a link for, if more people could see this it would expose the stupidity and desperation the FEDS are using to protect corporate interest. Our leader is trying to get this corrected and refocus our representatives to our needs over big business. But hey have been selling our vote to the highest bidder so long it will be hard to turn them. We can do it don't hit me with them negative waves man.
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 06:58PM PT
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Michael Phelps - 12 Olympic gold medals. Santanio Holmes - Superbowl MVP. Kareem Abdul Jabbar - 6 time NBA MVP. Only losers smoke pot - It makes you unmotivated!
Posted by Jeff Ball on 02/04/2009 @ 07:27PM PT
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Don't forget our Leader President Obama and Clinton (he inhaled) based on my personal experience 85% of the people I have come in contact with in my life enjoy a good smoke...
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 08:33PM PT
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I think we need to have Charlie Lynch as our poster person. He was welcomed into the local business community by the mayor. Running a totally legal shop paying taxes only trying to help people Operating his shop by the rules voted on by a majority of free Americans in California. Now he faces 100 years in prison by our Nazi FEDS. With all that is wrong in our country they pick this person to enslave to feed the machine. He should be free and given a medal for his efforts. If you don't know who he is see Bears link above.
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 08:40PM PT
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I agree wholeheartedly. Perhaps a shirt that reads "Free Charlie Lynch!"
Posted by Jacob "Bear" Elert on 02/04/2009 @ 10:35PM PT
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http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=19021484937
There's a Facebook group already dedicated to this, btw.
Posted by Jacob "Bear" Elert on 02/04/2009 @ 10:41PM PT
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All the new people don't forget to vote in the CNBC poll this will make some mainstream news..
http://www.cnbc.com/id/28621704
29,487 with 97% in favor of legalization Our Leader are you listening?
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/04/2009 @ 08:53PM PT
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Fred, hows it going man?!
Amazing the things that have happened just in the past month in the marijuana world. I can't wait to see the good things that come over the course of the year.
And Clinton didn't inhale, and he didn't like it, remember? LOL
Posted by Andrew Schilling on 02/04/2009 @ 10:36PM PT
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Clinton bull shit.
2009 is our year I feel it in my bones we need to push!!
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/05/2009 @ 08:17AM PT
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I have tried to contact MPP about getting a ballot initiative here in Kentucky, to allow medical marijuana and dispensaries. I haven't heard back from anyone yet. Does anyone know of a Kentucky MPP rep I can contact.
I would also like to try and organize "Hemp Aid" similar to "Farm Aid". I would like it to promote the benefit to the family farm being able to incorporate Cannabis Hemp into their crop rotation.
Posted by R Moore on 02/04/2009 @ 11:03PM PT
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Divide and Maintain Dysfunction.
Where is A.N.S.W.E.R. against this war? Mothers don't like durable clothing? How about dad's hunting vest, made from Romanian hemp. The old portrait on Hemp canvas. What if it really is medicine? Can you tell your child to die, because a treatment is politically outlawed? Or not wince at Grannies Rhumatiz when some leaf tea might soothe the bones, without tearing a hole in her stomach.
2000 year Old growth forest, filtering 5000 gallons of fresh water each day, Removing CO2 producing oxygen, even Jesus took a hit of. Didn't have to be clear-cut, so McCain's bud Horowitz could make a buck. They were together bilking seniors at El Dorodo Savings,
with Neil Bush, Glenn and Okie Guv Keating. Giving Will Foster a 93 year sentence, Keating 5 zip. for growing some medicine, another Vet victim.
Why is Green Peace saving whales, and not pushing Hemp? Or Ganja as environmentally safer than the infrastructure for pills and booze. Why is Big Al fearing Global Warming, When carbohydrates can replace imported hydrocarbon plastic. 5 million Americans legally hungry, Hemp Omega 3 seed and Oil comes from Canada. Where are the US family bible belt farmers? Selling out to Cliarence's Monsanto. Aborting more babies than Roe V Wade. Making more customers for their subsidiaries selling white powders.
Where are the Vets, literally dying for lies. PTSD remedy could be growing in their living rooms. What about the chickenhawk Hypocrites toking then turning backs. Getting votes and then short term memory loss, unless they're re-elected. Then they completely forget. We the divided bickering over stupid things, Locking up sick people busting their Ganja stores, doesn't even register in the minds set on fear. Hiding from terrorists when their own neighbors are terrorized now still sick and back to the streets. Where kickback and confiscations make up for IOU's.
Investing in Private prisons and Pinkertons. The cowards afraid to voice their opinions. Believe the news chick cause she's cute. The Drug Cartels invest in PDFA lame ass commercials to cast doubt to the masses and keep a going dangling that green carrot. Lawyers on both sides work for the BAR. Judges can't decide what the DEA won't test. Until they do Congress can't change it, and cops have to cage you, its the law... they choose to enforce.
The Back Caucus should be raising hell. The poor are the first to get shafted. Gays should be outraged at the Ganjawar, not blame it on hippies. Women Vengeance Unions, arm chair quarterbacking the future based on lies from the past getting all frizzled to protect the children when CPS are breaking up more families than pot. For advocating harm reduction, claiming its an unfit environment. Used to send the unweds to Zoar Homes for Unwed Mothers. Then take the kid and give it to Foster care paid with taxes. 10 is the limit. Cloth them in Wallfart child sweatshop garments. Fresh frozen waffles and diet cocaine cola for breakfast. If they don't obey, the religious drug treatment and piss taste center is still open for business.
How many ways does this Ganjawar pay and why give such a versatile thing to the people free? Where is the Teachers rage? Jerk Souder's tackon to the High Education Ax won't hurt Obama children. Lush Rimjob is so afraid the taxes might aid an American citizen, Not a word about corporate subsidies, GOPerverts not paying a dime, bitching about food-stamps and college grants, while our share of their tax is stashed away in the Caymans. Wallstreet and Madison Ave coke heads dissipating the effects of the 3 Martini powder lunches. Same corporate fascists spare changed a $trillion from Bush, selling stocks on the war on some groups of people possessing certain drugs and vegetables. We just need to stop hating each other for 5 minutes. Once Ganja is free, everything else is gonna be alright...
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/05/2009 @ 02:31AM PT
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"In later times, some shall speak lies in hypocrisy
commanding to abstain from that which God hath created
to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth."
-- Paul: 1 Tim
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/05/2009 @ 02:54AM PT
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I had a friend that had testicular cancer and had to undergo chemo therapy treatments. He told me that the chemo caused him to projectile vomit so badly that he would have stopped the treatments and accepted the consequences rather then continue if he didn't have cannabis to calm the vomiting. The idea that he could have been arrested for smoking weed to treat his condition is outrageous and obscene. I keep hearing about the criminal gangs that get rich from cannabis smokers purchases. Let me grow my own and the money I save will be used in helping the economy and the drug gangs will go out of business. Keeping cannabis illegal is what enriches the drug gangs.
Posted by Edward Higgins on 02/05/2009 @ 05:17AM PT
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I have developed a template for the distribution network for legalized cannabis. It is as follows:
1. No sales allowed to minors; the age of majority to be determined by the several states.
2. Commercial operations would be limited in square footage, and in the case of indoor cultivation, total wattage of illumination.
3. The commercial operation must produce all cannabis consumed and/or sold onsite.
4. To keep as much revenue as local as possible, licensing of the commercial operations would be addressed at the local level and modeled after current liquor licensing regimes. Commercial firms would be subjected to inspection, just as local drinking establishments are.
5. No alcohol sales in conjunction with cannabis sales allowed.
6. Personal cultivation of cannabis would not be regulated; however, the sale of cannabis outside the regulatory framework would be punished in accordance with current alcohol statutes (i.e. “bootlegging” and “moon-shining” would still apply to illegal cannabis sales).
Please share your thoughts.
In a debate a number of years ago, the then governor of New Mexico slapped down Asa Hutchinson handily, but stumbled when he said he didn't know how the distribution system would work. I developed this list and sent it to him. I was sent in return a very nice reply on gold-leaf stationary. I mention this only because some in government do realize it is time for change in this area.
So, let's better the above list and that will severe that argument from the debate.
Posted by Jarrod Loerzel on 02/05/2009 @ 05:34AM PT
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Put this in the suggestions tab. It's a good one!
Posted by Jacob "Bear" Elert on 02/05/2009 @ 12:08PM PT
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Michael Phelps, Hypocrisy, & American Drug Policy
http://tinyurl.com/Phelps-American-Hypocrisy
In the meantime, I merely note that this broken wreck of a man's failure to win any more than a pathetic fourteen Olympic gold medals (so far) is a terrifying warning of the horrific damage that cannabis can do to someone's health--and a powerful reminder of just how sensible the drug laws really are.
Michael Phelps's Notes
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=63288166250&ref=mf
Celebrity Stoners: American High Society
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=3406#3406
NFL Buzzkill
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1013
"Insanity [is] ...
Continuing to do the same things and expecting different results."
-- Albert Einstein
We are calling for a World Wide BOYCOTT,
of any and all companies dropping ads
on the grounds of enough hypocrisy!
Should Michael Phelps apologize for being photographed with a bong?
Craig Ferguson thinks not.
CBS Vid The Late Late Show - 02/02/09
The Whole Michael Phelps Controversy
http://tinyurl.com/FergusonPhelps
72% want Obama to end DEA raids
DWR: Pete Guither 2.4.9
http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/2009/02/04.html#a3278
"Casual drug users should be taken out and shot."
- Daryl DARE Gates - Former LAPD Chief
DEA Chief: Winners Occasionally Use Drugs
September 9, 1997 | Issue 32•06 WASHINGTON, DC
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/30072
In a surprise announcement with wide-ranging implications for U.S. narcotics policy, Drug Enforcement Administration director Thomas Constantine acknowledged Monday that some winners "may occasionally" use drugs.
"Republic . . .
it means people can live free, talk free, go or come,
buy or sell, be drunk or sober, however they choose."
-- John Wayne
Phelps unites pot smokers By David Edwards
CNN’s Jeanne Moos reported that the photo of Michael Phelps smoking a bong has united pot smokers on the internet.
This video is from CNN’s American Morning,
broadcast Feb. 4, 2009
http://rawstory.com/rawreplay/?p=2879
"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana
is its effect on the degenerate races."
- Harry J. Anslinger - America's 1st Drug Czar (FDR - JFK)
What Michael Phelps Should Have Said
http://www.reason.com/news/show/131438.html
Radley Balko | February 2, 2009
Smoking pot shouldn't be a crime.
Or the public's business.
Dear America, I take it back. I don’t apologize.
Hypocrites and their Apologists... tsk tsk
http://www.yahooka.com/forum/politics-current-affairs/145786-hypocrites-their-apologists-tsk-tsk.html
Divide and Maintain Dysfunction
http://tinyurl.com/Divide-and-Maintain-Dysfunctio
NO-ConPromise!
http://preview.tinyurl.com/NO-ConPromise
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/06/2009 @ 12:01AM PT
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Everbody send our leader a thank you he has made a small move to end the madness a step in the right direction finally!!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
Today, in a front page article in The Washington Times White House spokesperson Nick Shapiro said, “The president believes that federal resources should not be used to circumvent state laws, and as he continues to appoint senior leadership to fill out the ranks of the federal government, he expects them to review their policies with that in mind.”
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/06/2009 @ 08:12AM PT
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Go to
http://blog.thehill.com/2009/02/03/why-condemn-phelps-when-we-ought-to-condemn-the-laws-that-brand-him-a-criminal/
The Hill blog and leave a comment on M Phelps I am personally boycotting any sponsors that drop him, so far Kellogg's is the only one I know so no corn flakes!!
Cherokee Fred Husein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/07/2009 @ 05:24AM PT
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NORML - Recent Research on Medicinal Marijuana - http://current.com/items/89794603/recent_research_on_medical_marijuana.htm
Posted by Christopher S on 02/07/2009 @ 02:32PM PT
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If so inclined send a message to Kellogg's about their handling of M Phelps the Olympic swimmer and the bong story Kellogg dropped him.
corporateresponsibility@kellogg.com
I sent the a message that I would no longer user their products..
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/07/2009 @ 05:42PM PT
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I read a post that suggested a "Million Marijuana March" or some such thing in Washington, D.C.
I think that is a brilliant idea, but I would also like to offer what I believe to be a better version of the same idea. I will try to back up this idea as best as I can, but feel free to comment back with improvements or suggestions.
The main problem with marching on Washington, D.C. is that there are far too many people who can't make it all the way to Washington to participate in the march. Agreed?
Now, what if we chose a day, like April 20th 2009 for example, and organized a nationwide march in every major and mid-sized city? Think about it: The numbers in Washington, D.C. would be dwarfed in comparison to the numbers we could march with if EVERYONE across the country could participate without going to D.C.
If this were to happen, if we could all pull together and get this thing organized, and we pull it off successfully, there is no way that the media or the government will be able to ignore the thunderous roar of the masses who want something done about this! (Sorry for the run-on sentence...I get all motivated talking about this.)
So I challenge you America, all the masses of people who want to be heard... Find a way to spread the word to as many people as you can, in every community. Get the word out and MAKE OUR GOVERNMENT GIVE US WHAT WE WANT! And please, comment back with comments, suggestions, or improvements.
We have to stand together on this one.
Posted by Will Johnson on 02/07/2009 @ 08:23PM PT
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The Real Million Marijuana March on DC - July 4th 2009 http://www.trm3-801.org/
Posted by Christopher S on 02/07/2009 @ 10:37PM PT
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LEGALIZE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!ITS A PLANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by kevin mcronald on 02/07/2009 @ 10:23PM PT
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I just watched a show presented by the History channel, Even they show the Real story behind the prohabition of Marijuana
Even the History Channel is not affraid to tell the truth about Cannabis, End the war that was based on lies,
Stop the arrest that were fueled by dishonesty
If the history channel can tell the truth
Then so should our goverment!
Posted by Douglas Sherson on 02/08/2009 @ 12:52AM PT
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As someone who suffers from chronic pain I'd like to see the DEA disbanded and pot legalized. Although we have medical Marijuana in Colorado I can't use it because I get my medical care through the VA. If allowed my doctor would write the script but then I'd have to find a dealer to buy it from. Legalize it, tax it and quit locking up people whose only crime has been the non violent use of pot. With so many soldiers coming back from this war with injuries the time has come for the government to get rid of the brown shirts (the DEA) and serve the needs of their citizens.
Posted by Charlotte Notshown on 02/08/2009 @ 01:55AM PT
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Raquel, I just read your comments. What crime was committed? Saying Marijuana should be legal? I'm a former law enforcement officer and no crime has been committed here. You should get the facts before you post. There is no evidence that marijuana does anything to the human body other then cause euphoria and a relaxed state of mind and body. I've worked from the time I was 11. I also smoked pot from the time I was 13. I stopped when I became a mother mostly because I didn't have the time. I suffered no withdrawals or negative effects. I stopped smoking for the same reasons. Most soldiers smoked pot and fought for their country with valor. Should we deduce from this that smoking pot makes you a hero or a great soldier? Of course not. I also worked as a drug education specialist and have a degree (actually 3. Human service, Criminal Justice, and counseling with minors in special ed and business) and can tell you there is no proof for any of your statements. They are old wives tales many of which were given out by the government...this same government that produced the movie Refer Madness
Posted by Charlotte Notshown on 02/08/2009 @ 02:09AM PT
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Pot Tarts are better for ya...
http://i35.tinypic.com/2ebbehi.jpg
Will, the 4th of July Smoke In has been in Washington DC since the late 60's. Haven't heard of large turnouts since Carter.
Willie Nelson has a gathering at his 4th of July Picnic in Austin. If we could get them together?
April 20 is 420 with various origins claimed. But then everyday has two.
The MMM or GGG if the "M" word bothers you since its actually more derogatory and racist than the "N" word, but its known and like every other illogical part of this Ganjawar, it don't have to make sense, just dollars. The GGG is the first Saturday in May.
May 1st is the International Day of protest.
The Million Marijuana March has been going since 73 when Yippies Dana Beal and Cures-Not-Wars started it in NYCity. Since then it has spread world wide in over 230 cities from a hundred people to several thousand. I call it the Global Ganja Gathering or just 3M, this year it will be May 2, 2009. Usually in SF its a day of hemp booths and speakers, music, food and a March @ 4:20. Not much mainstream press and usually not a lot of harassment unless its an election year or you act like its legal and taunt the cops. Thats S.F. - Okies might call the National Guard...
http://www.globalmarijuanamarch.org
Boycott Killoggs
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4231#4231
Pot Tarts are better for ya...
http://i35.tinypic.com/2ebbehi.jpg
Laws or Lies
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4232#4232
Petition against Kelloggs
http://www.petitiononline.com/Kellogg/petition.html
The comments
http://www.petitiononline.com/mod_perl/signed.cgi?Kellogg&1
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/08/2009 @ 03:07AM PT
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The Real Million Marijuana March on DC - July 4th 2009 http://www.trm3-801.org/
This one is a little different than what you're talking about...
Posted by Christopher S on 02/08/2009 @ 06:56AM PT
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Raqu elLee may clampet, hate wasting a rant.
Not that DEAth ever had anything truthful to say.
But deary your timewarping back to the Anslinger Gore files.
Spouting old Randolph Yellow Journals Headlines.
You think we all play piano's and hysterically laugh,
and look at white women for more than 3 seconds?
You ever think we can come through the front door?
If we promise not to play jazz and rockarolla.
We'll try to die quietly out of your sight,
You won't smell the Ganja stopping our spasms.
To buy it in stores the same as your tylanol.
Your beer gardens and taverns and bars on the corners,
Produce real live and dead victims you can check their id's.
Thousands of years in hundreds of countries - No OD.
It is or it ain't. Tokers or not no one suffers pain for a cause.
No one gives up what works for what doesn't.
You do charity for multi international wealthy corporations.
Keeping competition off the shelves through prohibition.
What do you get except a red ribbon?
You just bring second hand smoke and mirrors,
not even good ones. Is that the best $42 billion can do?
Look ma no boobs! How can I remember the key strokes babe?
They smell like rednecks, but sound like commîes...
Maybe just Urine Cowboys. Careful cuz ya might go blind doin that while ya type. Hairy palms too. Left handed idiots. Brown eyes I'd bet, claiming caucasian. Spewing myths and gossip and very lame insults. Red Furd pick up, green teeth and gun rack with a bobble head Jesus on the dash and ole milwakee between its legs. All wrapped up in the rwb, made out of Iraqi crude oil plastic in Chinese sweatshops by kids doing 12 hour shifts, shipped to Walfart shoppers gutting America's workforce. Caging sick people based on childish stereotyping, stigmatizing and flat out lying. No victims No Whining.
Same as the kids they poison with Monsanto on cotton crops, not used on Hemp. Lumped into the mix by the Liar in Thief Crooked Dick Nixon. Aborting more babies than Roe v Wade but it makes up 98% of the cops statistics and shows Faux Newts how they're saving the kiddies from Waldo's mo potent narcotic burlap.
Eradicated Marijuana Is 98 Percent Ditchweed
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php...
Cover-Ups, Prevarications, Subversions & Sabotage
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php...
Demonizing Drugs
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php...
http://tinyurl.com/CrazyCalvinaFay
http://tinyurl.com/WomansWackyVengeanceUnion
Con Flicts of Interest Bush Barthwell & Drugs
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php...
They hate Vets?
Many Veterans are the Enemy of the Bush D.E.A.th War
http://www.drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.ph...
300000 Iraq & Afghan Vets Suffer PTSD & Depression
http://tinyurl.com/47jlc9
Wall street's Spontaneous Abortionists
http://tinyurl.com/pesticideabortionists
In a republic like ours, people often think that the proper response to an unjust law is to try to use the political process to change the law, but to obey and respect the law until it is changed. But if the law is itself clearly unjust, and the lawmaking process is not designed to quickly obliterate such unjust laws, then the law deserves no respect — break the law.- Henry David Thoreau
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/08/2009 @ 03:55AM PT
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I am with Henry all the way 70 years of tyranny is quite enough for me. It is time to hit the streets on July 4Th 2009 to me it is a necessary step to regain our country. That has been totally given to the Major corporations...
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/08/2009 @ 03:41PM PT
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If you guys haven't seen this video yet, you should check it out.. good music video, very informational and true...
Tree of Life: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=766510
Posted by Christopher S on 02/08/2009 @ 04:02PM PT
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Here's my two cents...
I have been waiting 12 years for things to change. Ever since I started smoking it, I've have known the truth about how harmless cannabis is (and that they lied to me in DARE). Over the years I have learned a multitude of reasons why it's illegal [money, greed, racism, power, corruption] as well as why it really shouldn't be.
You may think this isn't an important issue and that we've got bigger things to deal with, but I disagree with you. The implications of prohibition are far reaching and profoundly unjust especially in the case of cannabis.
Back in 2000 I ended up locked in jail with murderers and meth addicts for three months, humiliated by having to piss in front of a cop, repeatedly strip searched and handcuffed like I was some kind of animal. In total I lost possession of about two years of my life and thousands of dollars.. what was my offense? I sold a $10 sack to a kid wearing a wire, what I saw at the time and still do see as a victimless crime of a tiny magnitude. I mean 1.3 grams of some harmless herb and I lost all my rights, was labeled a felon and went through hell personally and with my family members.
Is this justice? I was certainly no criminal. I was your average 20 year old who happened to prefer cannabis to alcohol. I was just 2 years out of high school and attending a full time machinist program at the local tech center, which I thankfully finished shortly before going to jail.
I had overwhelming support in the form of letters of character reference from everyone including my principle and you know what they told me? "We think [simplecj] needs to realize the seriousness of what he's done. We recommend 90 days jail time, up to 3 years probation with weekly piss tests, completion of out-patient drug rehabilitation, plus $1000 fine and restitution.
SO, now I'm a 28 year old who regularly smokes (since the day I got my termination papers), I'm happily married and about to graduate from 6 years in the engineering program at my local university with a 3.45 GPA (one of the highest in my class).
I was a virtual POW in this pointless war and I'm really pissed off that it continues to happen to hundreds of thousands of people every year despite the mountain of evidence that not only vindicates cannabis as a recreational substance, but goes much much farther in praising the plant for it huge varieties of uses; from medicine to fuel for our cars, healthy foods, durable clothing, building material... the list just goes on and on.
IT'S TIME FOR THE INSANITY TO STOP!!
We need to end prohibition just as Nixon's Shafer Commission recommended back in 1972. The injustice and ignorance has become disgusting and saying this isn't an important issue is outright insulting to anyone who knows the hardships good people have gone through because of our draconian laws.
This travesty goes way beyond our borders and is actually been aiding in the oppression and persecution of many people around the globe. We've set the example of being "hard" on drugs and have expected other nations to follow suit, and most of them have... enough is enough! Prohibition of cannabis does not work and should actually be considered a crime against humanity, It's time to restore the staple crop of civilizations from ancient China to the early United States, we need it now more than ever!!
Posted by Christopher S on 02/08/2009 @ 08:45PM PT
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"Laws do not persuade just because they threaten."
- Seneca, A.D. 65
"The DEA is unequivocally opposed to the legalization of illicit drugs
(including, marijuana, hemp, and hemp seed oil)."
- US DEA booklet, "Lying Out Loud Against Legalization"
"We've got a national campaign by drug legalizers,
in my view, to try and use medicinal uses of drugs and legalization of hemp
as a stalking horse to get in under the radar screen."
- Gen. Barry McCaffrey - Former Drug Czar (Clinton)
"Not only are we here to protect the public from vicious criminals in the street
but also to protect the public from harmful ideas."
Robert Ingersoll - Former DEA Director (1972)
“Ideas are more powerful than guns.
We would not let our enemies have guns,
why should we let them have ideas.”
- Joseph Stalin
". . . unfortunately, we can't control the actions of everyone."
- Bill Clinton, April 20, 1993
"The United States can't be so fixed on our desire
to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans."
- Bill Clinton,
Boston Globe, 3/2/93, page 3; and USA Today, 3/11/93
"If the personal freedoms guaranteed by the Constitution
inhibit the government's ability to govern the people,
we should look to limit those guarantees."
- President Bill Clinton, August 12, 1993
"Was the government to prescribe to us our medicine and diet, our bodies would be in such keeping as our souls are now. Thus in France the emetic was once forbidden as a medicine, and the potato as an article of food. Government is just as fallible, too, when it fixes systems in physics. Galileo was sent to the Inquisition for affirming that the earth was a sphere; the government had declared it to be as flat as a trencher, and Galileo was obliged to abjure his error. Reason and experiment have been indulged, and error has fled before them. It is error alone which needs the support of government. Truth can stand by itself."
-- Thomas Jefferson, "Notes on the State of Virginia," 1787
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/09/2009 @ 12:03AM PT
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It is very simple I am not a stoner I am just tired of being RULED by fear. We as Americans have lived under this system too long. Our lawmakers are seduced by greed they use fear to control us and reap the millions paid to them by lobbyist. They tell us you don't want legal weed or universal health care it is bad and evil and will not work. They accept millions from lobbyist for the liquor, cigarette, insurance, medical, and many others to tell us lies.
I AM NOT AFRAID I WANT OUR FREEDOM BACK AND THE REPRESENTATION OF OUR LAW MAKERS RESTORED.
Please sign my petition to solve our two greatest problems the war on drugs and universal health care for all.
http://stopthemadness.com/topic.php?topic_id=90
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Stop the lies...
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/09/2009 @ 06:41AM PT
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/7869709.stm
While this IS on BBC, I still need to see the "research" done for this study. Also, it seems to have come at a very coincidental time.
Posted by Jacob "Bear" Elert on 02/09/2009 @ 06:51PM PT
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We debunked it here...
http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/index.php?showtopic=20011&hl=
Posted by R Moore on 02/09/2009 @ 10:40PM PT
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Just More Gossip
may raise, by itself is not definitive, are unsure about the causes, may increase the risk, who had reported, risk appeared to be, researchers said they were not sure what it was about marijuana that may raise the risk. Propaganda?
found this at Jack's
http://www.jackherer.com
Flawed study inflates Testicular Cancer-Risk from Marijuana
NowPublic News Coverage
http://www.nowpublic.com/health/flawed-study-hypes-testicular-cancer-risk-marijuana
It is important to note that the study did not show a direct link, it only suggested a possible one.
Michael Phelps, Hypocrisy, & American Drug Policy
http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showthreaded&Number=1497158#Post1497158
8 arrested in Michael Phelps case
Holy crap. Sheriff Lott is certifiable.
We've now learned that since investigators began trying to build a case, they've made eight arrests: seven for drug possession and one for distribution. These are arrests that resulted as the sheriff's department served search warrants. We've also learned that the department has located and confiscated that bong. Sources say the owner of the bong was trying to sell it on eBay for as much as $100,000. The owner, who wasn't even at the party, is one of the eight now charged.
http://tinyurl.com/COPsAgainstGanjawar
"No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the sources of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power."
- P.J. O'Rourke: Writer
Phelps Swimming Suspension
Michael Phelps has been suspended by USA Swimming for three months over that picture of him smoking pot from a bong.
Kellogg’s Breaks Endorsement Deal With Olympian Michael Phelps
Michael Phelps Talks Possible Early Retirement In Wake Of The Marijuana Photos
“Yeah, there are still goals that I have in the pool, 100 percent. But I’m not going to let anything stand in my way. If I decide to walk away, I’ll decide to walk away on my own terms. If it’s now, if it’s four years, who knows. But it is something I need to think about and decide what I want to do.”
Merriam-Webster sham·ing: to force by causing to feel guilty
SCAPEGOATING -
Blaming social problems on a cultural, racial, or behaviorial group.
LEGAL DESCRIMINATION -
Laws criminalize members of targeted group and they may be denied jobs, the right to own property and/or be restricted as to where they may live or go.
PREJUDICE -
Selling the public on the idea that all members of the targeted group are 'bad' people.
NO PUBLIC DEBATE - DEHUMANIZATION - PROTECT OUR CHILDREN - CIVIL LIBERTIES SACRIFICED - LIES - LEGAL DESCRIMINATION - INFORMERS - SECRET POLICE - CONFISCATION OF PROPERTY - REMOVAL FROM SOCIETY -
Prisons, rehabilitation camps,'hospitals', executions and genocide...
("kill them all" "Zero Tolerance")
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/10/2009 @ 10:01PM PT
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Michael Phelps, Hypocrisy, & American Drug Policy thread
http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=1497158&an=
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/10/2009 @ 10:13PM PT
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New drug czar?
Tuesday, February 10, 2009
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/399533_kerlikowske11.html?source=mypi
Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske?
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/11/2009 @ 03:14AM PT
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New Drug Czar 09
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4235#4235
Tuesday, February 10, 2009
"Oh God bless us," said Joanna McKee, co-founder and director of Green Cross Patient Co-Op, a medical-marijuana patient-advocacy group. "What a blessing — the karma gods are smiling on the whole country, man."
He's a gung ho cop who plays by the rules, most of the time. Good bad or ugly? He survived years of Hempfests and MMJ. Covered up for a junkie cop.
Hempfest's Grass is Greener This Year
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4100#4100
The Drug Czar is required by law to lie
http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2007/10/09/theDrugCzarIsRequiredByLaw.html
>>>The fact of the matter is that the Drug Czar can't be a reformer as currently constituted. He's required by law to lie, remember?
As far as a drug czar lying for the job. That is UnConstitutional and a Tax exemption. We pay taxes because we are Represented. You can't represent someone by lying to them. No Taxation without Representation. Plus even King Gorge of England, not Texas. Wouldn't expect the Pirates to pay taxes. Paying for our own persecution is un-American! DdC
>>>(12) shall ensure that no Federal funds appropriated to the Office of National Drug Control Policy shall be expended for any study or contract relating to the legalization (for a medical use or any other use) of a substance listed in schedule I of section 202 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 812) and take such actions as necessary to oppose any attempt to legalize the use of a substance (in any form) that--
No one can do this legally, let alone morally. Just because the sheople haven't called them on it, doesn't mean its legit. This is Nixon's version of protecting the drug war against the people, not the Constitution. Lies leave the parameters of reality. No legislation is beyond reform or change. This is what we have accepted, not what it should be or could be. No one is above the Constitution even if they get away with that interpretation for years. This needs challenged, not appeased or taken for granted.
Every year that I hold back my taxes. They garnish my wages + interest and penalties. At least karmically I'm covered, I'm not contributing voluntarily, they force me to pay for my own degrading, stigmatizing and stereotyping. Still not represented... DdC
From Seattle's top cop to 'drug czar'
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/399533_kerlikowske11.html?source=mypi
Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske has been appointed to a law enforcement post within the Obama administration, which would return him to Washington, D.C., after almost a decade as Seattle's top cop, sources said Tuesday.
Sound Off Comments
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/soundoff/comment.asp?articleID=399533
GOOD RIDDANCE
I hope he doesn't get to carry a gun!
The odious Chief Kerlikowske carries with him to Washington the blood of young Kristopher Kime. He ordered his officers to stand down whilst an innocent man was beaten to death - all because the precious mayor's approval ratings were savaged by his handling of the WTO riots. Yet another pathetic and scurrilous addition to the Obama administration.
This is like Barney Fife running the CIA. They should make him the deputy director of National Park Security so he can better control the chipmonks. He'd feel important and it would be harmless unless he lost his gun again.
If I would have known all these losers would leave with an Obama win, I'd a voted for him.
This will be a very poor reflection on the Obama admin if true.
Here is a guy has obsessed over gun control, which is really not in his job description. Among his highest-profile efforts have been sex-policing (huge Craigslist sting of '07, strip club raids, massage-parlor raids). All while petty crime like assaults and such spiraled. And he lost his Glock when it was inadequately secured.
Norm Stamper was 50x the chief. If this is what the Obama admin is about, we are in deep yogurt.
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Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/11/2009 @ 01:38PM PT
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Every person that is tired of the tyranny we live under join me in Washington D.C. on July 4 2009. I am personally tired of our representatives supporting big business over what it best for America. I feel we should be able to criminally prosecute our lawmakers for accepting bribes and voting to guarantee corporate profits. They illegally enslave us in prison and ignore the rights we are guaranteed by our founders. To me this is the worst crime against humanity in history. I only wish the minority that still buy the lies and look down on cannabis users like we are some kind of pond scum. Would wake up and see through the lies and greed. To me this small portion of our country are the most hypocritical narrow minded perhaps slightly retarded or sadistic. I have never harmed anyone and believe in Live and Let Live also the Golden Rule. I feel if the truth were know these people would still want to put us in jail for pure meanness. Back to my point be in DC on July 4 2009 lets send a message they will not be able to ignore.
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
State Rep GA MMMarch 7/4/09
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Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/11/2009 @ 03:06PM PT
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Oh yeah can you hear that? It's the sound of walls falling in...
[quote] * FEBRUARY 11, 2009, 11:27 P.M. ET
[b]Latin American Panel Calls U.S. Drug War a Failure[/b]
By JOSE DE CORDOBA
MEXICO CITY -- As drug violence spirals out of control in Mexico, a commission led by three former Latin American heads of state blasted the U.S.-led drug war as a failure that is pushing Latin American societies to the breaking point.
"The available evidence indicates that the war on drugs is a failed war," said former Brazilian President Fernando Henrique Cardoso, in a conference call with reporters from Rio de Janeiro. "We have to move from this approach to another one."
The commission, headed by Mr. Cardoso and former presidents Ernesto Zedillo of Mexico and César Gaviria of Colombia, says Latin American governments as well as the U.S. must break what they say is a policy "taboo" and re-examine U.S.-inspired antidrugs efforts. [b]The panel recommends that governments consider measures including decriminalizing the use of marijuana.[/b]
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Mexico has been besieged by drug violence amid a two-year government crackdown.
The report, by the Latin American Commission on Drugs and Democracy, is the latest to question the U.S.'s emphasis on punitive measures to deal with illegal drug use and the criminal violence that accompanies it. A recent Brookings Institution study concluded that despite interdiction and eradication efforts, the world's governments haven't been able to significantly decrease the supply of drugs, while punitive methods haven't succeeded in lowering drug use.[/quote]
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123439889394275215.html
Posted by R Moore on 02/11/2009 @ 10:49PM PT
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Lets face it America will never be drug free. Millions of citizens take billion of dollars worth of drugs every year. Some help some are harmful and will kill you.
So why do some take drugs and go to jail. While millions take even addictive dangerous drugs some a clone of an illegal drug and fear no retribution?
Check the statistics the poor and powerless go to jail for taking something that helps them. While the upper class and rich take derivative of the same drug and are respected for their personal choice.
While the poor and powerless are jailed to maintain corporate profits. The Major drug dealers (legal) pay millions every year to our lawmakers to insure they differentiate between the two legal/illegal.
They sponsor the Drug free America Organization for god sake while selling drugs to millions. They do not want a drug free American they want a monopoly on the drugs you take. And will pay to put you in jail if you do not chose their drug. Over one that helps you does no harm and you can grow and have free.
I once said they cannot make money on weed this is why they enslave Americans. But thanks to our lawmakers that put the main ingredient in weed THC in a different category. So if you can synthesize chemically the THC you can sell it, they call it Marinol. Now they legally sell synthetic weed legally thanks to our leaders.
On the other hand the poor and powerless go to jail at the rate of one every 36 seconds for using the very same product. If this fact does not wake you up you must be brain dead and it wasn't from smoking weed. I have for 40 years and I have a very sharp mind my patience is what is wearing a bit thin.....
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
State Rep MMMarch 7/4/09
http://www.trm3-801.org/
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/12/2009 @ 09:33AM PT
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Government patents cannabinoids? No Medical Value?
http://www.topix.net/forum/source/ukiah-daily-journal/TK2GGQ9DU4SFDDC87
The U.S. Government is so sure that there's no such thing as medical marijuana, they decided to patent it.
The Counterculture Colonel
http://www.topix.net/forum/source/ukiah-daily-journal/TQA1RMFFJNR4NJPR8
Dr. James S. Ketchum, a retired U.S. Army colonel, was into weapons of mass elation, not weapons of mass destruction. He oversaw a secret research program that tested an array of mind-bending drugs on American GIs, including an exceptionally potent form of synthetic marijuana.(Most of these drugs had no medical names, just numbers supplied by the Army.) "Paradoxical as it may seem," Ketchum asserted, "one can use chemical weapons to spare lives, rather than extinguish them."
Mairdinol is Synthetic Sabotage
http://www.topix.net/forum/source/ukiah-daily-journal/TRJAGJRDDVSVN5C2O
At the 10th International Conference on Drug Policy, 1996, USA John P Morgan MD, Professor of Pharmacology, City University of New York Medical School, said of Marinol, the synthetic THC marketed in the States, "In a recent study, the scientists gave patients 20 mg of Marinol by mouth to see if it increased their appetite. Not only could they not detect much appetite-increasing effect, but they learned the interesting fact that, in one-third of people who take Marinol by mouth, you have no blood levels at all. The drug is so poorly bio-available it's surprising that it got onto the market. There may well be some reason to believe that there are individuals in our government who are interested in getting Marinol on the market to diminish the pressure for marijuana smokers."
Who’s Getting Rich Off Prohibition? Prop 5 YES
http://blog.norml.org/2008/10/30/whos-getting-rich-off-prohibition-just-look-who-opposes-prop-5/
Vices Are Not Crimes by Lysander Spooner, 1875
http://www.lysanderspooner.org/VicesAreNotCrimes.htm
I dare you to read the whole thing.
DWR: Thursday, February 12, 2009
http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/2009/02/12.html#a3297
The next time someone says "Well, if you want to legalize drugs, why don't you just legalize murder while you're at it?", I want to strap them down and force them to read this...
... but their reading comprehension would probably fail catastrophically, and then I'd be stuck with a vegetable strapped to a chair.
A Vindication Of Moral Liberty
I.
Vices are those acts by which a man harms himself or his property.
Crimes are those acts by which one man harms the person or property of another.
Vices are simply the errors which a man makes in his search after his own happiness. Unlike crimes, they imply no malice toward others, and no interference with their persons or property.
In vices, the very essence of crime --- that is, the design to injure the person or property of another --- is wanting.
It is a maxim of the law that there can be no crime without a criminal intent; that is, without the intent to invade the person or property of another. But no one ever practises a vice with any such criminal intent. He practises his vice for his own happiness solely, and not from any malice toward others.
Unless this clear distinction between vices and crimes be made and recognized by the laws, there can be on earth no such thing as individual right, liberty, or property; no such things as the right of one man to the control of his own person and property, and the corresponding and coequal rights of another man to the control of his own person and property.
For a government to declare a vice to be a crime, and to punish it as such, is an attempt to falsify the very nature of things. It is as absurd as it would be to declare truth to be falsehood, or falsehood truth.
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/12/2009 @ 07:02PM PT
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Drug Czar was coined by Joe Blieden / czar (zär) noun
☆ 1. an emperor: title of any of the former emperors of Russia and, at various times, the sovereigns of other Slavic nations
☆ 2. any person having great or unlimited power; autocrat
Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and MMJ Prohibition
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=174
"One may well ask: How can you advocate breaking some laws and obeying others? The answer lies in the fact that there are two types of laws: just and unjust. I would be the first to advocate obeying just laws. One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
-- Martin Luther King, Jr.
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"In any civilized society, it is every citizen's responsibility to obey just laws. But at the same time, it is every citizen's responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
-- Martin Luther King Jr.
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"There is nothing more dangerous than to build a society with a large segment of people in that society who feel that they have nothing to lose. People who have a stake in their society, protect that society, but when they don't have it, they unconsciously want to destroy it."
-- Martin Luther King Jr.
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I was thinking in a "discussion" about jury nullification being criticized by Liberals because the rednecks abused it getting lynch mobs out of jail. So using it for growers is somehow taboo. These people actually cast votes and drive cars, I kid you not. They obediently sit on the jury and hope the judge gives them an autograph. Never think of questioning why the defendant doesn't say it helped his spasms or it was grown for sick seniors and sanctioned and blessed by the city of Morro Bay. The difference is NO VICTIM. Therefore NO CRIME using Ganja. Big list of Victims hung by the neck until dead. But they see no difference? Free Speech unless it makes people nervous or it cost you a sponsorship or grade. States rights unless the DEA gets permission from the drug bizczar. Judges reading cop chicken-scratch in case they need a little warrant tweaking to justify raiding sleeping grannies on snitch testimony.
When I have doubt, feeling blue, think the world is full of wingnuts without a clue. I turn to the good book, Breakfast of Champions by Kurt Vonnegut Jr. Seems the core of being an American is dwindling away in censored foster care schools and the nanny state, molding the minds of the youth. To shed intellect for brute strength, prime beef beer and processed kelloggs. Football boot-camp primers. To grow up with cameras and strip searches, pisstastes and the constant feeling of guilt, shame based obedience. Questioning is a sure sign of dissidence, someone to keep an eye on. Possible candidate for drug intervention, ritalin cocktail to quiet those annoying questions and conscience. Cardasian Justice, guilty till proven innocent. You must be one of them. Yup, sure am. I've kept this old Spooner quote since the gitgo.
"There has been no clearer principle of English or American constitutional law than that, in criminal cases, it is not only the power and duty of juries to judge what are the facts, what is the law, and what is the moral intent of the accused; but that it is also their power, and their primary and paramount duty, to judge the justice of the law, and to hold all laws invalid, that are, in their opinion, unjust or oppressive, and find all persons guiltless in violating, or resisting the execution of, such laws."
-- Lysander Spooner, 1852
Jury Nullification
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/12/2009 @ 11:10PM PT
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Boycott Killoggs (Michael Phelps thread)
Canada joins Boycott MMM 5.2.9 D.C. Convergence 7.4.9
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4231#4231
'Insane' Sheriff... with a Tank
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4242#4242
Vices Are Not Crimes
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1302
New drug czar
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4235#4235
Michael Phelps, Hypocrisy, & American Drug Policy
http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/14/2009 @ 11:47AM PT
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SSDP: Take Action!
http://tinyurl.com/democracyinaction
President Obama has finally selected his "Drug Czar," Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske. It's our job to educate him about the failures of the Drug War and the need for change!
Step 1: Sign the Petition
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Dear Police Chief Kerlikowske,
Congratulations on your nomination to direct the Office of National Drug Control Policy.
You certainly have a big job ahead of you. 76% of Americans know that the Drug War is failing. We are looking for serious answers to our nation's drug problems, but the government has thus far refused to change course.
We are hopeful that you will be more receptive to sensible reforms than your predecessors have been. After all, it was under your watch that the city of Seattle embraced harm reduction principles, openly discussed alternatives to prohibition, protected the rights of medical marijuana patients, and made marijuana possession a lowest law enforcement priority.
Over the past several years, we've been pleased to see your police force tolerate open marijuana use at the city's Hempfest, which draws more than 300,000 people annually. By refusing to arrest these peacefully assembled citizens, you stood with the 76% of Americans who support the decriminalization of marijuana.
As you direct the nation's drug policy, we urge you to follow through on the promises that President Obama has made, including:
-Ending the racially unjust disparity in sentencing for crack and powder cocaine.
-Ending the practice of prosecuting patients in states with medical marijuana laws.
-Supporting harm reduction programs such as needle exchange.
-Shifting drug policy toward a public health approach.
Ultimately, effective drug policy should be grounded in science, public health, racial equality and human dignity. We hope that you'll be the Drug Czar who finally gets it right.
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/14/2009 @ 09:02PM PT
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Dear Police Chief Kerlikowske,
It would be in your best interest to work with the American people not against them. We are more aware now of how and why we even have this so called war on drugs.
We are working hard to end the war on our rights. I personally have little patience for anyone that would prefer to jail citizens rather than try and help them. Our youth is being destroyed not by drugs but our own system which gives them a criminal record for making a personal choice.
If I went to the store every day and bought a fifth of vodka and drank it no one would break down my door and put me in jail. But if I smoke a weed for my relaxation (a personal choice) I have the power of my own government against me.
I am not going to list the thousand of reasons why, I am just going to say the majority say end the war and we are tired of waiting! Legalize-Regulate This is the only acceptable option...
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/15/2009 @ 05:34AM PT
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Cherokee and others sending petitions to the new drug Czar,
Please see this earlier post:
The Drug Czar is required by law to lie
http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/stories/2007/10/09/theDrugCzarIsRequiredByLaw.html
>>>The fact of the matter is that the Drug Czar can't be a reformer as currently constituted. He's required by law to lie, remember?
First of all, I did sign your petition. But in fact I believe it is mis-spent energy. The drug czar is legally required to ignore and in-fact distort a petition like the one you are sending him into lies.
SUGGESTION: Start a petition to have that law changed. Maybe we should suggest changing the ONDCP's legal charter to REQUIRE that it investigate and review drug laws when new evidence comes to the fore (like the hundreds of studies done on Cannabis in the last 20 years).
Peace,
M
Posted by Marnin Wolfe on 02/15/2009 @ 05:49AM PT
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My ultimate goal is to do away with a drug czar and regain the rights given to us by our founders. Our leaders have come to think they run this country for there own personal enrichment. This must change we could have such a great country for all if the greedy politicians would help...
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/16/2009 @ 03:59PM PT
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Petitions can bring awareness or show strength and weakness. The Nixon lie needs exposure and until then the lesser evil is harm reduction by the bizcar doing less than its predecessors... A show of force might persuade Oblamo, and he is about the only one in the entire frickin cabinet worth addressing. Bliedon contraGates and Goopy are worthless. Waiting until its legal to toke is like the forefathers waiting for the Beatles to start the revolution. Besides its bad karma to obey bad laws.
Just give me some truth...
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Nixon lied to schedule Ganja #1.
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=459
Vices Are Not Crimes by Lysander Spooner…
http://www.lysanderspooner.org/VicesAreNotCrimes.htm
Czar Struck: Obama’s Brilliant Pick for Drug Czar
Posted by Dominic Holden on Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:00 AM
http://tinyurl.com/Czar-Struck
This pick is a baby step, Dont condem him yet. Our police are like children, (who do not know how to admit they have been wrong,) Lets support them and help them grow up, I tell everyone I know to visit the NORML site,(LOCAL NEWS PRESS) Its amazing how many anti-marijuana people come back and say they never heard the other side of the story. Support and educate our DEA children, As hard as it is on us. beating These children is like current law enforcement policy,(A loosing war) not an open minded Education.
Posted by JET on February 13, 2009 at 6:02 AM
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What to do with the problem child Drug Czar?
I favor the tiger theory of Rodney Dangerfield, eating their young or abortion as citizens, forfeiting their BOR like they do peoples houses. I used to say in the 90's before prop 215, when we passed measure A, that the cops don't come out of the box trained in not busting pot tokers, give em time. For almost 20 years as a hospice home health aid cannabis caregiver whatever, I've never had a problem with cops. They sometimes come with the coroner and I tell them the patient used Ganja and its not a problem. Never in 40 years of almost daily toking have I had a problem with cops, never busted because I don't sell it and I try to keep my name out of the headlines. So I know they aren't totally void of compassion or sense. They choose stupidity as a way around the initiatives. So if local cops can "see" then highly trained narkoslut DEAth Merchants can too. Times way up. Any moron can see Ganja has medicinal value, isn't addictive and poses no threat to society and still for 40 years they continue the lie. I don't believe anyone is that stupid and if they are they certainly shouldn't be toting live weapons.
Posted by DdC on February 14, 2009 at 1:44 PM
New drug bizczar
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4235#4235
Michael Phelps, Hypocrisy, & American Drrugwar
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4229#4229
'Insane' Sheriff... with a Tank
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4242#4242
Boycott Killoggs (Michael Phelps thread)
Canada joins Boycott / MMM 5.2.9 \ D.C. Convergence 7.4.9
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4231#4231
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Kathleen Parker: Snap, Crackle, Pot
Washington Post OpEd about Phelps, Lott, and the drug war, and she speaks with Howard Wooldridge of LEAP.
Drink and drive and it's grrrrrrrr-eat! Smoke pot and your flakes are frosted, dude. So seems the message from Kellogg's, which has decided not to renew its sponsorship contract with Michael Phelps after the Olympian was photographed smoking marijuana at a party in South Carolina.
That's showbiz, of course, but the cereal and munchie company had no problem signing Phelps despite an alcohol-related arrest. full story... http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/02/12/AR2009021203199.html
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/15/2009 @ 12:33PM PT
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No prosecutions in Phelps 'case'
http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9852594
From a news conference minutes ago...
Monday, February 16, 2009
Durring a news conference, Richland County Sheriff Leon Lott said there is not enough evidence to prosecute anyone involved in the Michael Phelps marijuana case.
Monday's news conference puts an end to speculation if Phelps would be charged with smoking marijuana in Richland County.
Michael Phelps, Hypocrisy, & American Drug Policy
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4229#4229
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Marijuana: The Miracle Drug
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread24485.shtml
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/16/2009 @ 02:10PM PT
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Well thank goodness for that DdC Phelps is an American hero and this was one of the dumbest things I have heard of.
What we need is to return the freedom and rights taken away over the years in the name of greed.
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/16/2009 @ 04:03PM PT
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i was arrested on marijuana possesion a month ago. If it was legal it would of never happened.
Posted by jeff gill on 02/17/2009 @ 01:49PM PT
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Penn. Judges Get Kickbacks for Placing Youths in Privately Owned Jails
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/2/17/penn_judges_plead_guilty_to_taking
An unprecedented case of judicial corruption is unfolding in Pennsylvania. Several hundred families have filed a class-action lawsuit against two former judges who have pleaded guilty to taking bribes in return for placing youths in privately owned jails. Judges Mark Ciavarella and Michael Conahan are said to have received $2.6 million for ensuring juvenile suspects were jailed in prisons operated by the companies PA Child Care and a sister company, Western PA Child Care. Some of the youths were jailed over the objections of their probation officers. An estimated 5,000 juveniles have been sentenced by Ciavarella since the scheme started in 2002. We speak to two youths sentenced by Ciavarella and to Bob Schwartz of the Juvenile Law Center.
Judges jailing kids for cash
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/29142654/
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Prison Industrial Complex Attacks Prop. 5
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4146#4146
'Relax Your Muscles as Much as Possible'
http://tinyurl.com/JustRelaxYourMuscles
Faith-Based Rehabilitation
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=541
U.S. Lawmakers consider 'Piss Tasting Grity Act of 2005'
http://www.yahooka.com/forum/showthread.php?t=95635
The US Gulag Prison System
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90
At the same time, the United States blasts China for the the use of prison slave labor, engaging in the same practice itself. Prison labor is a pot of gold. No strikes, union organizing, health benefits, unemployment insurance or workers' compensation to pay.
Journey for Justice Pedaling for Pot
http://forums.cannabisculture.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=136236&Number=1175058#Post1175058
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Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/17/2009 @ 07:07PM PT
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Charles Lynch and How you can help?
I feel we must do something to help Charles I have donated to his site and signed everything I can find but feel it is not enough.
Mr Lynch opened a cannabis dispensary in California. He met all state, city, county laws. The mayor of his town was at his grand opening. He helped people and did nothing wrong. The FEDS came in and arrested him and at his trial he was not able to defend himself with the truth. This is Nazi tactics if I have ever seen them. Even our President has said this is not right and backed off the FEDS Nazi tactics so hopefully this will not happen again. But what can we do to help this man?
He did nothing wrong he complied to all state local laws he hurt no one. He should be freed and made whole by the FEDS. If any one has ideas of something more we can do let me know or post ideas here.. If this man does one day in federal prison it is a major loss for our cause. Not to mention the pain and injustice it will cause him..PLEASE LETS DO SOMETHING!!
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/18/2009 @ 08:06AM PT
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Everyone needs to learn about Jury Nullification
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37
"unreviewable and irreversible power [of the jury] to acquit in disregard of the instruction of the law given by the trial judge. The pages of history shine upon instances of the jury's exercise of its prerogative to disregard instructions of the judge"
-- D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, 1972
Morro Bay Lynching
Legal criminals work in the government. The most horrendous crimes ever committed. Done be pencil neck geeks shuffling dead trees all covered in blotches of ink. DEAth Merchants only do what we let them. The anti-drug thugs, gossipers and fixers. Lie and get airwaves because we let them.
Better to bleed us slow and avoid a revolt. Toss crumbs to a few to envy the rest, divided is best. Gut the checks and balances and elect employees. Busheney master race gets away with it. Worse person in History, and half of the voters voted for it. 63% of the German’s voted Hitler in. The US loved Mussolini. Thailand murders 5000 for Souder and gets friendly nation status. Colombians get modern agent orange dumped on their kids, while their government cashes billion dollar checks from Johnney Pee.
Outlaws fill a need of the people, illegally. Growers buy local and We the People seek them out. We buy Ganja, they don’t sell it. No commercials, flip charts on demographics. No twins at the superbowl selling sacks of chronic. Trust after time, eliminates shopping, and it doesn’t change all that much over the years. Except the prices, not usually too drastically. Bust one and another supplies. People want their Ganja.
Growers provide Ganja for people who want it. Public servants. DEAth and it’s minions of worriers, threaten the people who never ask for their protection. Protecting the “public”, a corporate non-entity. Doesn’t exist in real terms, with molecules and atoms. Same as the reefer demons hurled on stoners. Stigmatized and ostracized, shunned and caged. No defense in court, this is not Justice. Million tax dollar team facing what one person has, “State” is another one of those non-entities.
We the People are real. We bleed. “Corporations” don’t bleed. The “Public” can’t bleed. A crime should have a victim. It has to be committed. No victim, no crime, no crime, no time. Cops can’t be victims of what they don’t experience. Asking for Ganja, just to arrest and hopefully cage a person is sic. With fake doctors, doctors doing harm. Seems like entrapment. Fake doctorcops making sure torture victims didn’t die too soon.
Insurancedocs without medical knowledge, writing scripts and diagnosing treatment. Siding with the AMA and DEAth in spite of their own physician students. Politicops we voted for disregard us once they’re intrenched. Sciencops thinking up bad things, lies and half truths, to keep it from ending grants and overtime and competition.
Seems like a lot of things King George did, are back again to haunt us. OiNkDeCePters Politically tried to sabotage Barney’s law. Our $40 billion tax bucks paid him to be anti Democrat? Forbidding Free Speech to tell the jury why you did something. Basics, Guantanamo would even allow it. If you murder someone you can tell your side. If you grow pot the Feds shut you up, and instruct the jury to not listen.
How does that work? How many DEAth are sitting there with them, making sure we don’t add any evidence or truth. Entitled to a jury of our peers, peers don’t kill you. But that’s why he did do it your ho nor, NO. “Fed’s DEAth” says so. That’s it. 404 but 404 but 404, numbers don’t bleed. — DdC 8.8
The Drug Czar is Required by Law to Lie
http://tinyurl.com/Liar-Waldo
Attack on city-sanctioned medical marijuana provider is costing taxpayers millions. Defense attorneys, meanwhile, struggled to provide context for their client’s alleged crimes after being barred by the judge from mentioning the phrase “medicinal marijuana.”
rule, 404, attempting to confuse the jury.
Ain't that America, the home of the free...
Jury Nullification
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37
"The law itself is on trial quite as much as the case which is to be decided"
- Judge Harlan F. Stone, Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court, 1941-1946
Virtues' of Ganja
http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/367
The Ganjawar Fraud
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1589
Relax Your Muscles as Much as Possible
http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/362
Rachael Hoffman R.I.P.
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1197
Mothers Against the Drug Czar’s War on Kids
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4091#4091
Naomi Wolf's lecture on 10 steps to fascism U2b
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RjALf12PAWc
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/18/2009 @ 11:19AM PT
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Keep it coming buddy good links!!
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/18/2009 @ 01:37PM PT
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Friday, February 13, 2009
CBC News
Alberta drug rehab centre abused us, former teen patients allege
Corrections and Clarifications
The program receives $400,000 a year in provincial funding. It was originally reported that it had received $4 million in provincial funding since 2002.
Related: The Fifth Estate: Powerless
http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2008-2009/powerless/
Watch Full Episode: http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/2008-2009/powerless/video.html
Executive director calls them 'liars,' former patient denies abuses
http://www.cbc.ca/gfx/images/news/photos/2009/02/13/cgy-rachel-oneill.jpg
Former patient Rachel O'Neill alleged she was sexually assaulted by two people in a supply closet at the centre. O’Neill alleged she fled the centre in late December 2002 in her bare feet. continued...
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2009/02/13/abuse.html
Big Bucks in forced Faith-Based Rehabilitation
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=541
Over the door of one church-based drug treatment center in Houston, a sign printed in foot-high letters announces: "Drug Addiction Is NOT a Disease. It's a Sin." And at a Christian young adult home in Corpus Christi, police arrested a supervisor after teenagers complained that they were beaten and roped to a bed, all in the name of Christian discipline.
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/18/2009 @ 02:35PM PT
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Study: Marijuana Users Less Likely to Get Injured Than Non-Users
Posted in Speakeasy Main by Scott Morgan on Thu, 02/19/2009 - 9:59pm
A new study from Switzerland looked at substance use among people admitted to the hospital with injuries. Not surprisingly, people who'd been drinking alcohol were more likely to get hurt than those who had not. But what about marijuana use?
Conversely, cannabis use was associated with significantly lowered risk of injury. Whereas the risk for injuries associated with the use of less than a pipe or joint’s worth were not significantly different from the on associated with no use, relative risks decreased with increasing levels of use… [BioMedCentral]
http://stopthedrugwar.org/speakeasy_main/2009/feb/19/study_marijuana_users_less_likel
NORML Responds To Phelp's Pot-Smoking Controversy
February 5, 2009 - Washington, DC, USA
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7799
We cannot, by total reliance on law, escape the duty to judge right and wrong... There are good laws and there are occasionally bad laws, and it conforms to the highest traditions of a free society to offer resistance to bad laws, and to disobey them.
-- Constitutional scholar Alexander Bickel
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/20/2009 @ 11:08AM PT
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The Drug Free America Foundation Inc. An organization backed by the legal drug pushers to fight cannabis legalization. For the first time I have seen has opened its site for comments. I would like to see this site buried under free Americans that feel cannabis should be legal and the fact that their propaganda is not appreciated. The site can be found at
http://www.dfaf.org/content/marijuana-use-damages-more-you-thought#comments
Cherokee Fred
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/20/2009 @ 08:08PM PT
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Where will these self appointed moralists go when they die,
who lie to keep a remedy hidden?
The number that have suffered over their gossip.
http://tinyurl.com/CrazyCalvinaFay
flogging sin 344222
http://i34.tinypic.com/13yqnw1.jpg
I posted, how long it stays will tell.
Mel Sembler and his wife Betty founded Straight, Inc., a drug treatment program for youth that used sleep deprivation, starvation, beatings, denial of basic health needs, sexual assault, deprivation of liberty and speech and psychological torture (Straight, Inc. later became Drug Free America Foundation.
From 1976-1985 it was known as Straight, Inc. and had a reputation for abusing kids as a drug rehabilitation program. In 1985 it changed its name to Straight Foundation, Inc. in order to protect its money and its principals from civil suits. In 1995 it was changed again to Drug Free America Foundation. DFAF is a national and international drug policy think tank and provider of services for drug free work places.
The Seed was a teen drug rehabilitation chain in Florida in the 1970s. The US Senate accused the program of using North Korean brainwashing methods on American kids. Ambassador Melvin Sembler patterned Straight, Inc. after The Seed.
Calvina Fay is the Executive Director of Drug Free America Foundation and Save Our Society From Drugs (S.O.S.). Drug Free America Foundation provides education to the public about the dangers of drugs of abuse and efforts of drug pushers to legalize drugs.
Putting Faith In a Social Service Role; Church-Based Providers Freed From Many Rules
CORPUS CHRISTI, Tex.- Over the door of one church-based drug treatment center in Houston, a sign printed in foot-high letters announces: "Drug Addiction Is NOT a Disease. It's a Sin." At another, clients pass by a poster of an addict in a hospital bed, ripping IV tubes out of his arms and throwing his pills in the garbage. An angel hovers nearby, offering her protection from this plague of prescriptions.
And at a Christian young adult home in Corpus Christi, police recently took the unusual step of arresting a supervisor after teenagers complained that they were beaten and roped to a bed, all in the name of Christian discipline. More arrests are anticipated, authorities say.
Faith-Based Rehabilitation
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=541
Just give me some truth...
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Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/20/2009 @ 11:00PM PT
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The post lasted a whole 5 minutes...
Censorship is the only way they can debate.
Even with that they shoot themselves in the foot.
I picture drug thugs and worriers all limping.
Like NASCART walking around in left turn circles.
Mumbling reefer mad garbles, squeaking deep inhales.
Horror seeping in, that people might be thinking for themselves.
Developing ideas and doing things against the empire.
This mythology the crazies read, or have read to them in most cases, as fast as the memo's arrive. Never reaches sane people. They simply drive themselves nuts over what other people may or may not be doing. The trouble is when these religious lemmings gain seats in legislatures and start making laws against intangible demons and hobgoblins. Then the dutiful calvinas dupe the fearful and vulnerable and slaves forced by plea bargains like white elephant sales bartering for their lives and number of days in a cage. To avoid the pixies and fairies. For the sake of the kids? Nursery rhymes can't physically harm you. The lies that demonized Ganja can't develop medical conditions before each initiative or election. Symptoms don't change with political ideologies in the real world. Only in DEAthland.
Where will these self appointed moralists go when they die,
who lie to keep a remedy hidden?
The number that have suffered over their gossip.
Pot Compound Enhances Efficacy Of Anti-Cancer Agents
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7655
U.S. GOVT. COVERS UP MARIJUANA CANCER CURE!
http://marijuananews.org/node/3
Just Spreading More Gossip
may raise, by itself is not definitive, are unsure about the causes, may increase the risk, who had reported, risk appeared to be, researchers said they were not sure what it was about marijuana that may raise the risk. Propaganda?
found this at Jack's http://www.jackherer.com
Flawed study inflates Testicular Cancer-Risk from Marijuana
http://www.nowpublic.com/health/flawed-study-hypes-testicular-cancer-risk-marijuana
NowPublic News Coverage
It is important to note that the study did not show a direct link,
it only suggested a possible one.
Teddy Kennedy's Cannabis Brain Tumor Cure
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4048#4048
cancer deaths since 1974 study....
http://cannabisnews.com/news/24/thread24212.shtml#6
CNc: by dongenero on October 07, 2008
approximately 550,000 cancer deaths per year in the US according to medicalnewstoday
http://www.medicalnewstoday.com
Approximately 6 million cancer deaths per year worldwide according to WHO.
So since that initial finding in 1974 of the effect of cannabis on cancer growth rates, 18,700,000 have died of cancer in the US.
Since 1974, 204,000,000 worldwide have died of cancer.
Dr. Heath/Tulane Study, 1974
http://www.jackherer.com/chapter15.html
The Hype: Brain Damage & Dead Monkeys
Jack Herer - Chapter 15
Pot Shrinks Tumors; Government Knew In '74 by Raymond Cushing
http://www.mapinc.org/newscc/v01/n572/a11.html
Marijuana Takes on Colon Cancer By Aria Pearson
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread24093.shtml
CN Source: New Scientist August 01, 2008 USA
The chemicals in marijuana could put the brakes on colon cancer, according to new research. That doesn't mean smoking a joint will help, though, as the chemicals only form part of the process. Raymond DuBois and colleagues at the University of Texas in Houston discovered that a key receptor for cannabinoids, which are found in marijuana, is turned off in most types of human colon cancer.
Virtues' of Ganja
http://tinyurl.com/4deh6e
"There seems to be no stopping drug frenzy once it takes hold of a nation. What starts with an innocuous HUGS, NOT DRUGS bumper sticker soon leads to wild talk of shooting dealers and making urine tests a condition for employment - anywhere."
- Barbara Ehrenreich: Writer
Bong Rips Cure Cancer? By Alex Hoffman
http://cannabisnews.com/news/24/thread24212.shtml
"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races. Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing. Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death. Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind. Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."
- Harry J. Anslinger - America's 1st Drug Czar (FDR - JFK)
Groups Endorsing RxGanja
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1195
"Government exists to protect us from each other. Where government has gone beyond its limits is in deciding to protect us from ourselves."
- Ronald Reagan, The New York Times, April 13, 1980
Politics of Pot
http://tinyurl.com/4epw2n
"I think we can now say that marijuana does not lead to degeneration, does not affect the brain cells, is not habit-forming, and does not lead to heroin addiction."
- Dr. James H. Fox (1966)
FDA's Director of the Bureau of Drug Abuse Control
Drugwar Lies Linked to Schizophrenia
http://tinyurl.com/2y7hay
"[Marijuana] is highly intoxicating and constitutes an ever recurring problem where there are Mexicans or Spanish-Americans of the lower classes."
- New York Times - Newspaper (1933)
The Ganjawar Fraud
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=1589
"One of the problems that the marijuana-reform movement consistently faces is that everyone wants to talk about what marijuana does, but no one ever wants to look at what marijuana prohibition does. Marijuana never kicks down your door in tbe middle of the night. Marijuana never locks up sick and dying people, does not suppress medical research, does not peek in bedroom windows. Even if one takes every reefer madness allegation of the prohibitionists at face value, marijuana prohibition has done far more harm to far more people than marijuana ever could."
- William F. Buckley
Self Perpetuating Lies
http://www.electricemperor.com/eecdrom/HTML/EMP/04/ECH04_13.HTM#lies
"Narcotics police are an enormous, corrupt international bureaucracy ... and now fund a coterie of researchers who provide them with 'scientific support' ... fanatics who distort the legitimate research of others. ... The anti-marijuana campaign is a cancerous tissue of lies, undermining law enforcement, aggravating the drug problem, depriving the sick of needed help, and suckering well-intentioned conservatives and countless frightened parents."
William F. Buckley, Jr. RIP
http://blogs.salon.com/0002762/2008/02/27.html#a2721
DWR: Wednesday, February 27, 2008
Commentary in The National Review, April 29, 1983, p. 495
Nixon lied to schedule Ganja #1
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=459
"You know, it's a funny thing, every one of the bastards that are out for legalizing marijuana is Jewish. What the Christ is the matter with the Jews, Bob?
"You're enough of a pro," Nixon tells Shafer, "to know that for you to come out with something that would run counter to what the Congress feels and what the country feels, and what we're planning to do, would make your commission just look bad as hell."
- Richard Milhouse Nixon
"Marijuana does not lead to physical dependency, although some evidence indicates that the heavy, long-term users may develop a psychological dependence on the drug"
- The Shafer Commission of 1970
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/21/2009 @ 12:37AM PT
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This whole testicular cancer crap reeks of a 'quid pro quo'.
After doing a little research on the Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle, I discovered that the "Fred Hutchinson Cancer Research Center in Seattle receives more funding from the federal government than any other cancer research facility in the country." Surprise, surprise.
I also ran across some interesting information on the 'Center's' lobbying efforts in Washington.
http://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?year=2008&lname=Fred+Hutchinson+Cancer+Research+Center
Now, the 'study' starts to make sense. When will our government stop all the lies , propaganda and misinformation from their biased studies?
With over 20 million cannabis users in the US alone, where's all the cancerous testicles? I've been enjoying the herb for nearly 40 years, starting at at age 16, and I've still got my boys.
Someone with more recourses than I have, should be looking into the influence that the Feds had in this 'study'.
Posted by MJ Mathisen on 02/21/2009 @ 12:45AM PT
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Its strange how lies go without question.
All it takes is Nixon's lie scheduling cannabis to be scrutinized.
I have also been 4 decades of finding rational thoughts of drug worriers just can't exist. Maybe its the air or what they eat. They raise their eyebrows and refuse to deal with it. I've heard professionals tell me just because they feel better doesn't mean its medicine. Maybe, but it does make them feel better. No Victim No Whining!
Media Hysterics About Supposed Cancer Link Nothing New”
http://blog.norml.org/2009/02/10/media-hysterics-about-supposed-cancer-link-nothing-new
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/21/2009 @ 02:29AM PT
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MY RESPONSE TO DFAF's TESTICAL THREAT:
Ok, let's examine how serious this claim is if indeed prolonged cannabis use, specifically starting during adolescence, actually does increase your chances of contracting this rare form of testicular cancer (obviously only affecting males).
70% sounds scary right? I mean it sounds like you're saying that 7 out of 10 people who fit that criteria should have or will have this cancer, right?
Well, if you say that something increases your odds by 100% it means that you are twice as likely for that to happen. But if your odds are, say, 1 out of 1000, then 100% increase would be 2 out of a thousand or 1 out of 500 (0.2% overall likelihood compared to a 0.1% likelihood).
So what are the odds of the average guy contracting this form of cancer?
From: http://www.cancer.org/docroot/PED/content/PED_2_3X_Do_I_Have_Testicular_Cancer.asp
Testicular cancer is not common; a man's lifetime chance of getting it is about 1 in 300. A small increase in risk still makes the chance of ever getting it low. The risk of dying from this cancer is about 1 in 5,000.
Testicular cancer is highly treatable and usually can be cured, especially when it is found early. If you have any of the signs or symptoms described above, see a doctor right away. You may not have testicular cancer, but if you do, the sooner you start treatment, the more effective it is likely to be.
So, it's not common for guys to even contract this form of cancer to begin with, 1/300 odds for guys. So what does that mean for pot smoking males? Well 70% increase means 1.7 times as likely. So 1.7/300 equals 0.56% chance compared to 0.33% for all males.
In reality, if you smoke pot regularly starting from a young age, it only increases your odds of testicular cancer to an overall 0.23%, the 70% increase is relative to the initial percentage which is quite small to begin with.
.... seems pretty obvious to me that this study is being overly exaggerated! Especially when considering the clearly stated fact that this type of cancer is highly treatable, with only 1/5000 actually dying from it.
So DFAF, your statement, "Marijuana, the cure that could kill you." is complete bullshit propaganda! If the odds of a guy dying from testicular cancer are 1/5000 (0.02%) and cannabis increases that risk by 70%, you are still only 0.034% at risk of dying from testicular cancer. Get your facts strait before you start blabbing off with such ignorant contempt for a completely safe plant!
Posted by Christopher S on 02/21/2009 @ 01:53PM PT
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Here is the comment i just left on Drug Free America's discussion board they just opened. Doubt they will post it... http://www.dfaf.org/content/marijuana-use-damages-more-you-thought#comment-183 Im sick and tired of this. The majority of us are alot smarter than this and do our own research. People have been consuming Cannabis for thousands of years with no adverse side affects. Im sick of your pathetic organization that is attacking this harmless plant INSTEAD OF COKE, METH, HERION, ECSTASY, PILLS, 2CI.. AND COUNTLESS OTHER REALLY DANGEROUS substances. I pray that your children get into these drugs because their Punishments are less than Cannabis. Great job people. Put your money and advertising where it counts... THE TRUTH. You disgust me with your nazi propaganda scare tactics. I have used cannabis since age 12. over 10 years of almost all day every day use, with no problems, no need for major doctor visits or any other problem arising, if what you have told America is true, by this point, i should have 1. Ran over a small child while im trying to get McDonalds. 2. Aided in terrorism 3. Shot my self in the head with a gun 4. Literaly Melted into a couch 5. Contracted Lung and Testicle Cancer 6. Stolen from my partents and countless other horrific actions. Well, im sry, but none of these have been in my life, Sorry, Propaganda FAIL. Having SEEN people Die from hard drugs, and never even heard of a scuffle arising because of cannabis, it depresses me that all these hard drugs carry less punishment than a plant, that has no proven negative affects accept numbing cilia in the lungs. GET YOUR ACT TO GETHER AND STOP THE REAL KILLERS!!!!! You better believe i pray that my children will only want to use cannabis.. and not get involved in Cigarettes, Alcohol, Coke, Meth, Heroin, Crack, Pills and countless other drugs that YOU CARE NOT TO STOP! Please give the American people the respect of telling us the TRUTH, and caring about us all enough to attack the REAL KILLERS. Until then, i am utterly disgusted with you and the rest of these hate mongers that call themselves "leaders" Hoping for a Free America.
Posted by Nick A on 02/21/2009 @ 03:45PM PT
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I know we all discuss the many reasons why cannabis should be legal and our lawmakers should stop jailing non-violent drug users.
What makes my blood boil is the polls and every person I know keeps saying legalize and regulate we all know the reasons why. Yet our representatives still use propaganda bull shit to justify their continued enslaving of Americans.
When did this country lose the idea of majority rule. I know my representatives still send me the same canned reply every damn time I write them. It states their beliefs and reasons why they oppose the majoritys wishes. I feel it is time to take our country back and insist our representatives do their job represent their constituents. They have been running local, state and federal governments for their benefit so long they have forgotten who they work for. I feel when a majority of Americans say legalize and regulate cannabis that is what they should do. I don't give a damn if it is against their religion or ethical beliefs it is what the MAJORITY WANTS. Yet the continue to make slaves and destroy lives at an ever increasing rate. I am convinced it is the money they receive from lobbyist that motivates them to act against the majority. I feel they should be put in jail for not doing their job and insisting on destroying one Americans ever 36 seconds...
I am pissed and am haveing a problem allowing this atrosity to continue the lack of representation is giving me the blues...
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/21/2009 @ 03:56PM PT
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AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
OK! this is a fact on Drug Free America Foundations website....
and i quote. "Marijuana users are four times more likely to commit violent acts and five times more likely to steal as non-marijuana users." HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Posted by Nick A on 02/21/2009 @ 05:31PM PT
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Ha, I know, I read through their "Marijuana Facts", what a load of bullshit propoganda!! Seriously they're only fooling those dumb enough to believe it and unmotivated enough to check things out for themselves...
For those intelligent people out there... we know the truth!!
Posted by Christopher S on 02/21/2009 @ 05:42PM PT
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Here's one that really pissed me off on DFAF... I'm sure big pharma loves this Q/A:
But isn’t allowing marijuana for the treatment of health problems a compassionate thing to do?
Not really. “Medicalizing” this harmful substance has caused truly ill people to refuse proper medical care, thinking that because marijuana makes them feel better they are getting better. Medical practitioners and others who are truly concerned for the sick have higher standards and greater compassion – we want the ill to receive the medicine they need.The medical excuse marijuana movement has become a device used by special interest groups to exploit the sick and dying and well-meaning voters for their own purposes.Rev. Scott Imler, Co-Founder of Prop 215 (California’s medical marijuana law) said, “We created Prop 215 so that patients would not have to deal with black market profiteers. But today it is all about the money. Most of the dispensaries operating in California are little more than dope dealers with store fronts.”
----> Read... blah blah blah, bullshit, bla bla, love big pharma, blah blah blah, trust big pharma cause potheads are all about money, they don't care about you, blah blah blah..... BULLSHIT!!!
Posted by Christopher S on 02/21/2009 @ 05:49PM PT
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There are three reason to oppose the legalization of Cannabis.
Your either connect to Big Pharma
Involved in for profit prisons
or dealing drugs and don't want to lose your business.
I also would like to know why this issue isn't covered at all on Change.orgs front page? Why is it we have to go through at least three gates to get to this subject?
Is this page just where they religate us so we can just bitch about this to keep us pasified?
I'm sure this will disappear shortly like all my other requests for change.org to give legitamacy to this issue.
I get better exposure posting on messages boards than I do here.
What good is all this doing? Is anything getting done or are we just spinning our wheels?
Posted by R Moore on 02/21/2009 @ 07:39PM PT
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There are only a few people posting to this subject. We get no headlines unless we can get some athlete to suck on a bong and take his or her picture.
Change.org is trying to kill this subject by not promoting it like they promised they would. It's an embarrasment to them.
When are we going to get something done?
Posted by R Moore on 02/21/2009 @ 08:06PM PT
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99% of the people don't believe in Fascism. Until they do we will maintain dysfunction for profit. Cures and Prevention don't pay, only "treatment" Wars don't profit, Mission Accomplished downgraded war to a Police Action, like Vietnam, Korea, the Cold War and the Ganjawar. Many profits servicing the Police Actions. Domestic and Foreign.
The DEA is in 60+ countries requiring big bucks to maintain the coups and offices, agents and equipment. The corporations using crude oil, trees, cotton and its 90 million pounds of chemicals, booze and Pharmaceuticals all either actively spreading gossip or doing nothing and still keeping competition off the same shelves they bid on.
Blessed is the Police State?
Exporting DEAmocracy
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4115#4115
Ganja/Hemp
http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1092
shadow of the swastika elkhorn manafesto
http://www.hempfarm.org/Papers/Shadow_of_the_Swastika.html
Prisons and the 50,000 Copshops in the country in some form or another. When Nixon lied and arbitrarily lumped Hemp into the Ganjawar, the Klintoon McCaffrey decided to up the confiscations by including wild ditchweed hemp. Continuing to comprise 98% of the Green Harvest total nationwide eradications. Meaningless numbers, but when presented to Congress they keep the black budget year after year.
The Ganjawar Fraud...
http://tinyurl.com/The-Ganjawar-Fraud
True the growers profit on the risk of the Ganjawar but they don't inflate the prices. They reap the bennies but they also pay the price if busted. Public servants who supply what we the people demand. No one sells Ganja, people buy it. No commercials or billion dollar Madison Ave Ad agencies splattering frying pans with eggs. Most growers spend their profits locally and blend in to the community. Our town has supported the local growers since the early 90's and we passed a local initiative in 93 before prop 215. WAMM and the mayor were handing out lids on the steps of city hall.
Anti-pot propaganda
http://www.cannabisculture.com/articles/4185.html
US feds are addicted to making up fake anti-pot news.
Yes change.org typically is afraid to see the light. Afraid to tarnish the image of plastic concern or real solutions. We are Jews in 1939 Berlin, who except Martyrs would confront the Nazi's head-on?
We're the blacks smuggling remedies to stoners and sick people, we can't ask the rednecks permission or expect fair treatment in their courts. Its the filthy rotten system and both sides in court. work for the system, so the thousand red flags never get noticed.
Or broadcast by the same corporate business' talking memo readers. Any average idiot can see if a court rule says a person can't use medicinal as a defense, rule 404. It might confuse the jury. But not for murder or any gun crime. You can say you were trying to feed your family robbing the 7 11. You can't say you were growing for the city of oakland or Morrow Bay. Might confuse the jury and they might not give you 100 years of mandatory minimum private prison profits.
The US Gulag Prison System
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=90
A Prison State, If Not a Police State
http://cannabisnews.com/news/18/thread18794.shtml
To actually find a living victim of the bogus medicinal horror stories published should be a concern. Stronger pot BS and every kind of cancer except fingernail is tacked on for good measure. Nixon lied and rejected his own Commissions report while the world focused on a two bit break in at the Watergate Hotel.
SPR - Stop Prisoner Rape
http://www.spr.org/
'Relax Your Muscles as Much as Possible'
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/14/thread14571.shtml
Police officials lied to toughen laws...
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/thd1x79321.shtml
Including Medicinal and Hemp that wasn't included in the 1937 Tax Act. 100 million tokers around the planet should produce a ratio of testicular cancer. Or in countries using Ganja thousands of years. If a problem exists now that didn't before then something has changed. Using chemicals on tobacco products and comparing it to Organic Ganja is a bogus gutter science study. The IOM report never touched a bud. They concluded the previous studies to be correct. La Guardia, Shaffer and the Indian Hemp Commission. The only comparison to dangers of smoke were from cigarette studies and unscientific matching it all as smoke and disregarding the expectorant effects of Ganja, no questions. Another tobacco prohibition will make more tax revenue and more harmed from cheaper chemical adulterations.
Same as the FDA opinion being printed as fact for the limbogs to propagandize while they munch out on oxycontin. The FDA has never touched a bud, never conducted a test on Ganja or Hemp. It was an opinion of a worker and leaked out without a simple check. Good for sales. Thousands of red flags.
Many Veterans are the Enemy of the Bush D.E.A.th War
http://www.drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62
Jury Nullification
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=37
Hemp food worried the meat industry so Klintoon hijacked 17 truckloads of birdseed at the Canadian border. Then tried to outlaw all food products, although most believe the law is already set at .1% and hemp shouldn't have more than that so using it as a way to get out of a Ganja bust is foolish, but enough to try to ban it for the piss taste industry. Its a fraud and nothing but a fraud.
Starving Babies and Illegal Food
http://tinyurl.com/6kwhdc
The Stoners Will Survive
http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/664/t/Only-The-PotHeads-Will-Survive.html
Drugwar Lies Linked to Schizophrenia
http://www.cannabisculture.com/forums/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1184658
Officially GOPerverted
http://tinyurl.com/bmmaa
THE DEMONIZATION OF MARIHUANA
http://www.iahushua.com/T-L-J/DMH.html
PREJUDICE: MARIJUANA AND JIM CROW LAWS
http://www.electricemperor.com/eecdrom/HTML/EMP/13/ECH13_00.HTM
The Racist Ganjawar
http://tinyurl.com/7p6xj7
Thank You Miss Rosa
http://tinyurl.com/RacistGanjawar
Human Rights and the WoD
http://www.hr95.org/
November Coalition
http://www.november.org/
(FAMM Foundation)
http://www.famm.org/
Families Against Mandatory Minimums Foundation
F.E.A.R.
http://www.fear.org/
* M.A.M.A.
http://www.mamas.org/
* N.O.R.M.L.
http://norml.org/
* WAMM
http://www.wamm.org/
Cannabis News
http://www.cannabisnews.com/
MAP Inc.Org.
http://www.mapinc.org/
Drug Sense
http://www.drugsense.org/
Souder Illusion: Drug Sentencing Reform Ax
http://tinyurl.com/Souder-Higher-Ed-Ax
http://tinyurl.com/Jive-Souder
U.S. GOVT. COVERS UP MARIJUANA CANCER CURE!
http://marijuananews.org/node/3
Last year, Spanish scientists found evidence that marijuana can destroy tumors in rats.
But that came as no surprise to U.S. health officials, who quickly deep-sixed the report. Drug-war-obsessed federal officials have known about the cancer-beating properties of pot for more than 25 years and have kept it a secret from the public!
The latest study, released in February 2000, was conducted by Dr. Manuel Guzman of Complutence University in Madrid. In the study, brains of 45 lab rats were injected with a cancer cell, which produced tumors. Later, a third of the rodents were given shots of tetrahydrocannibanol (THC), the active chemical in marijuana.
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/22/2009 @ 01:28AM PT
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The Assassins of Youth: PDFA/DARE
http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/505
Partnership for a Drug-Free America Sources of Funding from 1988-91 as extracted from Federal Tax Returns (figures are approximate) by the Washington Hemp Education Network, also from the Los Angeles Times
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Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/21/2009 @ 09:56PM PT
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and that is going to make cannabis legal how? I've seen it. I know what they are say and they are still saying it. Have we stopped them from saying it? Do they even know we exist?
For 30+ years I've fought this war on the other side. For 30 plus years I've seen all their propaganda. I've read "The Emporer Wears No Cloths" backwards and forwards, I have an autographed copy from the author. I know all the lies and propaganda. What I want to know is what we're going to do about it.
Thousands of good honest hard working Americans are sitting in jails and prisons tonight because of this War on Pot, while we play with ourselves on this forum. When are we going to help them?
Posted by R Moore on 02/21/2009 @ 10:37PM PT
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Ddc thanks for the link. It is hard to understand some people believe this site is truly for creating a Drug Free American it is not. It is the major legal drug pushers used to insure your only choice is their product.
Hay Ron Moore hang in there we are winning the war one step at a time I too have run out of patience. But I feel 2009 is our year they cannot ignore the majority for ever. We do what we can do, be in DC July 4Th 2009 to fight tyranny...
http://www.trm3-801.org/
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
State Rep GA MMMarch 7/4/09
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/22/2009 @ 10:53AM PT
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Ron think of it this way if one undecided or uneducated person comes to this site. They can read the facts and arguments in a logical and honest manner perhaps we can convert that person to a supporter. If we continue to gain support and using civil disobedience we will win.
Americans will never respect or conform to a law born of racism, perpetuated by greed and supported by lies.
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/22/2009 @ 11:14AM PT
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and that is going to make cannabis legal how?
Boycott Kelloggs and the Olumpalumpas
MMM 5.2.9 D.C. Convergence 7.4.9
Legalize? Oh my. I do this to relieve stress of hospice work.
Secretly, I just like bashing Fascists.
I don't recognize any law saying Ganja is illegal.
How would they bust the inventor?
Its not illegal. Its a plant. Laws based on lies are not legal. No one wants it legal. Except those without connections. Those believing in the system. Those vulnerable to illness grasping for anything making them feel better or cheaper, without going to jail. Which is very unlikely unless you're selling it or growing it in public housing. Or getting too much favorable pres. The bad laws need to be removed if integrity is going survive. Notoriety usually only leads to one of the tools of Fascism. Degrade, stigmatize, demonize. Neo-Liberals are good at shunning and ridicule. Raising their eyebrows writing Patriot Ax' behind closed doors. While Neo-cons rant and rage for the kids sake as they spray poisons on eradicating ditchweed. Or send them to wars for oil replaced by cellulose in hemp stalks. Neo-cons have no worry in enacting Neo-libs laws. Just harder for them to write them do to their reputation as Fascists. Neo-libs are Fascist too. Klintoon busted more than Nexxon, Rayguns and Boosh combined.
There has never been a realistic thought of zero tolerance, no money in that. The government corporation takes in more tax with you in prison than working at Micky D. No shortage of jobless to fill your spot. Can't afford anymore educated, outside of the lineage. Higher Education Ax keeps undesirables in the labor pool for life. No Pell grants. Banning foodstamps only leaves stealing for the hungry. More profits and return taxes in an overcrowded cage than from someone who can't even feed themselves or their families. No job since the owner found India and Waldomart Chinese sweatshops. Not concerned about those kids. Anti choice rednecks aborting more babies with Cliarence Thomas Monsanto poisons from crop dusters on cotton crops not used on Hemp. Same chemical companies adulterations added to cigarettes not added to Ganja. Doesn't matter to the Oblamos feeding a bigger tobacco prohibition.
Or naturally the drug worriers who seldom if ever enter reality. Kids given drugs by guidance councilors far more damaging to health, far less trouble than a pesky authority questioner. Homeless deterrents from whistle-blowing. Oil dollars and monopolies. Driving off competition any way they please. Electric trollies replaced with fossil fools or homegrown burlap on supposedly sovereign Indian territories banned, as they do US family farmers. Or Mexicans crossing the border for migrant labor could be growing a staple to feed, shelter and cloth themselves. Corporatism fascism socialism nationalism jerking plastic flags sending kids off to a lie to come back wounded or traumatized then caged for growing a remedy for what the government denies as an illness and a remedy. The TV is "programmed", the 6 o'clock news gives enough angst to stoke the fears to re-consider telling the bossman to shove it.
Ganja is outlawed because it has no infrastructure. Its a plant, grows in most dirt. Lot of work in the combat zones of prohibition. Booze lasted until the Rockefellers, Carnegie and Mellons discovered how much they were losing in not selling materials for the booze infrastructure. Vats tanks pipelines trucks bottles caps and kegs. Steel, Oil and Banksters needed an alternative to prohibit. Then the rhetoric reefer mad bogus headlines. Every decade tweaking the details. Violence to Mellow, makes you dumb and immoral. Leads to hard drugs even before they are invented. Its illegal cause its green. They hate vegetables. Its illegal in their minds. The cages are real because the sheople are cowards. So if you want reality you're in the wrong building.
And since I don't think this is rock surgery, I have to believe that the powers that be know too. Or if they don't someone should remove the bullets and hide the nuke button. They need believing people and people want to believe. Censorship in school books removing the word hemp is a red flag. Removed by slot machine Bennett/Education Secretary/Drug Czar is also a red flag. So if Rx Ganja isn't recognized and isn't taught or permitted as a defense in court. Then there is no justice, just an agenda. And "educated" idiots not taught but getting high grades in Bullshit, now are "professionals" influencing the media and perpetuating confusion maintaining the dysfunctional Ganjawar.
I have found as a home health aid spreading Ganja medicine and info 20 years, I have to get in the doctors faces and even the most strict defenders of the status quo give in to the family when the Pharmaids run out. It all starts with the patient and sometimes families will side with the cops and others learning from DARE pamphlets. Al Gores sister choose to go without Ganja for political reasons. Nurses seem more accepting. Foreign students and younger nurses seem more likely to go along with the reefer mad authority and primitive treatment, even torture denying patients Ganja. Doing no harm falls behind doing nothing to jeopardize the reputation or job. To believe hemp is a lie to legalize pot for the cartels when it is sold on the net should end the war and have the Bizczars DEAth Merchants in straight jackets.
The internet has educated many thousands, maybe even millions out of 6 billion people. Stoners out doing most groups on the net but it only reaches a small portion of the planet and even the country. Under 10%. We have 2 million hungry and 2.4 million prisoners no one hears about or are taught in school. The USS Constitution Jack writes about with 65 tons of hemp has been refurbished with plastic sails and rigging. The message thing again. Plus cost savings. I wonder if the Smithsonian is replacing the drafts of the Constitution and Declaration with Kinko copies.
If you're waiting for a bozo politician to fix the system before toking, you won't be toking. Lies aren't in the physical world and as long as you try to fix what isn't real, you will spin your wheels another 65 years. Its not only Ganja. Its food, fuel and building products. You buy these products keeping them in business keeping competition out via prohibition. Don't buy their products and when they see we have an impact they will change. But Ganja is also like area 51 or whatever. The red herring is UFO's but something is going down.
Ganja since the Scythians, has a property making it uncomfortable to do things drug worriers do. Snitching out of duty or treating people in a degrading fashion or lying as a means to an end that wouldn't hold up under truth and realism. Herd mentalities. Non questioning entities required to keep the machine running. Ganja causing things to be unsettling, leads people to question. Then when questions are dismissed it leads to revolution. Same reason kids in school shouldn't smoke outside of medical reasons. Questioning ciriculum gets you ritalin or bad grades and blue collars. Abstain or home school until you can afford an Ivory tower like the rock stars not getting involved. The forefathers or Pancho Villa Hippies or Beatniks or Protest-ants all associated with Ganja. The enlightenment period. Archeology discovered traces of hashish in the ancient temple incenses. Did Jesus inhale? Pope says put them in cages. Conserving compassion for something better. Well it must be 4:20 somewhere fardup!
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/22/2009 @ 12:52PM PT
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The Drug Czar is required by law to lie
"Having reviewed all the material available to us we find ourselves in agreement with the conclusion reached by the Indian Hemp Drugs Commission appointed by the Government of India (1893-94) and the New York Mayor's Committee (1944 - LaGuardia)that the long-term consumption of cannabis in moderate doses has no harmful effects" "the long-asserted dangers of cannabis are exaggerated and that the related law is
socially damaging, if not unworkable"
- 1968 UK ROYAL COMMISSION, THE WOOTTON REPORT
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Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/22/2009 @ 01:53PM PT
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Breaks not needed, no images.
this has been a public service anouncement...
ConPromising lies is as psychotic as caging people for relieving symptoms of their diseases. Lies can never ever sprout symptoms. That is prostiticians work. Ganja is safe and millions have used it for thousands of years and no problems until Anslinger and his predators fairy tales about the dangers. The law is bad, remove it. Period. Don't give in like the cowards appeasing the Fascist for crumbs. Ganja is or it is not and test within the physical laws of the universe say it is.
"... as a multipurpose plant, ganga is used medicinally, even by non-smokers. ....There were no indications of organic brain damage or chromosome damage among smokers and no significant clinical psychiatric, psychological or medical) differences between smokers and controls." "No impairment of physiological, sensory and perceptual performance, tests of concept formation, abstracting ability, and cognitive style, and tests of memory" "[Cannabis smoking] does not lead directly to mental or physical deterioration... Those who have consumed marijuana for a period of years showed no mental or physical deterioration which may be attributed to the drug."
- US Jamaican Study 1974
Richard Milhouse Nixon to Raymond P. Shafer"
"...I.Q.'s of Zion Coptics increased after they began to use ganga"
- Schaeffer: A Neuropsychological Evaluation; A Case History
Nixon lied to schedule Ganja #1
"There is no evidence...
that any deleterious influence on the individual using [cannabis]"
- Panama Canal Zone Report, 1925
Once-Secret Nixon Tapes Show Why the U.S. Outlawed Pot
"Cannabis is remarkably safe. Although not harmless, it is surely less toxic than most of the conventional medicines it could replace if it were legally available. Despite its use by millions of people over thousands of years, cannabis has never caused an overdose death."
- Testimony of Professor Lester Grinspoon, M.D.
Associate Professor of Psychiatry, Harvard Medical School, before the Crime Subcommittee of the Judiciary Committee, U.S. House of
Representatives, Washington, D.C., October 1, 1997
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/22/2009 @ 02:39PM PT
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It has been a lazy cool Sunday. I have been doing my usual trying to find some small way I can contribute to ending the war on US (drugs).
I wrote Our leader President Obama giving my take on the south American leaders and the short sighted response his administration published in the Times. Signed a few petitions send request for more friends to unite and use our strength in numbers to our best interest. Read all the sites NORML, MPP, 420 magazine and even looked at the Nazi propaganda on the Drug Free American site. Wrote a few comments tried to educate and motivate more support. I sent 10 bucks to LEAP as I do with all our major advocates. I think I will relax roll a fatty and take the rest of the day off, it is Sunday. To all keep up the fight do what you can we will win in 2009. I have a feeling we can unite and beat the tyranny we have been forced to live with way too damn long.
Peace
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
PS. The CNBC poll seems to be picking up again be sure and vote at....
http://www.cnbc.com/id/28621704
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/22/2009 @ 03:18PM PT
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Fred, that link you sent me was incredibly useful. We can fight the people who are trying to keep marijuana illegal directly instead of listening to their crap!
Thanks for it.
Posted by Jacob "Bear" Elert on 02/22/2009 @ 07:19PM PT
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As we all know the FEDs lie to us on a regular basis here is proof.. This is a quote from the patent to all them to use the medical properties of cannabis. Read the entire patent at the URL below.
FIELD OF THE INVENTION
The present invention concerns pharmaceutical compounds and compositions that are useful as tissue protectants, such as neuroprotectants and cardioprotectants. The compounds and compositions may be used, for example, in the treatment of acute ischemic neurological insults or chronic neurodegenerative diseases.
They have the patent on cannabis to view patent go to
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.html&r=4&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=PTXT&s1=6630507&OS=6630507&RS=6630507
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they also say that cannabis even in high doses has not detrimental effects!!!
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
They lie we fight!!!!!
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/23/2009 @ 07:59AM PT
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I am no doctor but reading the patent I can see many medical uses for cannabis. Being an old person the main one that comes to mind is altimers which is a neurodegenaerative disease. If we could only do research on cannabis there is no telling what it could cure or help with.
TELL THE FEDS STOP THE LIES TAKE THIS GOD GIVEN WEED AND CURE OUR AILMENTS EVEN IF THAT IS JUST TO RELAX.
The major drug pushers (legal) are fighting this with the billions they make every year. Doctors in California say cannabis could replace up to 80% of all synthetic drugs produced by the big drug pushers. That would be a 544 billion loss to the major drug companies. That is why they pay our lawmakers millions every year to stop the use of cannabis and eradicate its growth. So they can continue to sell their foul synthetic drugs. Many are toxic, highly addictive, and will kill you in fact they kill 100,000 a year. They are betting on Merinol a clone of cannabis it cost $600 for a month supply. They do not want you growing a weed for free that is a molecular duplicate of Marinol their legal drug..
Thanks Congress for allowing them to pull this scam on the American people and enslaving us for using the same compound they sell legally, thanks to you......We know the truth and we are one step behind your lies and tyranny! You are inflicting pain and destroying lives for pure greed. These crimes will be exposed. A time will come when you will pay for the biggest hoax in history 76% say stop the lies legalize and regulate this is your last opportunity.....
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/23/2009 @ 08:36AM PT
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I just had an epiphany! I was thinking how can our leaders take this money and enslave Americans. Destroying their lives with no regret for their actions? They know all the facts they know the truth and still put our children in jail to be raped and killed. Or have their lives truly turned to crime branding them with a felony record. I could not personally live with myself if I did such a thing.
The epiphany I had is they are drunk on power. We all know every congress person is what most would consider rich. They seek a different wealth POWER. They have been drunk on power so long they feel they are above normal laws and human considerations, most of us live by. Many of them in the past committed crimes (if you and I had committed such crimes we would have done time). But they repeatedly over the years get away with murder literally. The laws they have passed to protect corporate profits the lies they spread and the propaganda they finance with our money. Has led to the death and destruction of many Americans because they feel their private agenda takes precedence over what is best for the majority of Americans.
I am tired but feel we must fight to correct this injustice against the entire populace know as free Americans!!
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/23/2009 @ 09:06AM PT
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I think we could build a case of fraud and recover damages for cannabis user having their lives destroyed for pure greed..
OUR LEADERS KNOW THE TRUTH AND HAVE LIED TO CONTINUE THE WAR ON DRUGS AND INSURE THEIR PAC CHECK CLEARS..
1. They know cannabis has medical value.
2. They moved THC to allow major drug companies to synthesize and sell Marinol (cannabis clone).
3. They applied for and received a patent on cannabis to protect future profits.
4. They have been ignoring the majority of Americans. Ignoring their job of representing us supporting the drug companies profits instead.
5. They can read as we do. They know the history of the war on drugs the truth that Nixon ignored the facts and used the war for his own paranoid oppressive reasons.
6. Even in the face of a vote by the majority of people in the 13 states where cannabis is legal. They continued to enslave Americans backing their major contributors. Ignoring the majority to insure their personal agenda.
I am sure any prudent thinking person after seeing the facts would come to the same conclusion, they are guilty. Guilty of destroying one million Americans annually for pure greed....
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/23/2009 @ 09:29AM PT
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One last thought I had for today. Then I am going out to play!
While they sit in Washington drinking their scotch and smoking their cigars. They look down and say we will ignore the majority of people that cry end the injustice against us.
After all its mainly the poor and people of color that pay the price for our war on drugs. It does not affect us, our children or grand children. The poor street people that get addicted to the bad drugs probably need a place to live and jail Will provide that. Why should we use the money spent on the war to help these people they are like animals anyway.
You may be right we are animals and our senses tell us it is us or you. Plus we have the truth the Constitution and history on our side. We are running out of patience waiting for you to do the right thing. What is best for our country and the majority of Americans. END THE WAR ON US NOW!!!!!
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
I fight for justice!
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/23/2009 @ 09:43AM PT
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Take a few second sigh the petition to remind our leader to stop the FEDS in medical cannabis states...
http://apps.facebook.com/causes/petitions/69/
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/23/2009 @ 10:02AM PT
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NEW JERSEY FOR THE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://www.northjersey.com/news/njpolitics/medicalmarijuana022309.htmlO i hear it coming from the next hill... YES WE CANNABIS!!!
Posted by Nick A on 02/23/2009 @ 06:16PM PT
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Nick the link no workey? Whats the news?
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/23/2009 @ 07:09PM PT
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They moved the file already, but i had the page open! heres the full article!!! ENJOY!!! N.J. may soon allow medical marijuana use Monday, February 23, 2009
Last updated: Monday February 23, 2009, 8:27 PMBY MARY JO LAYTON NorthJersey.com STAFF WRITER Patients suffering from cancer, AIDS and other chronic or debilitating illnesses could use marijuana medicinally under a bill passed by the state Senate today.
New Jersey would become the 14th state to have a medical marijuana law, which would allow patients to keep six marijuana plants and one ounce for personal use.
State Sen. Nicholas P. Scutari, D-Linden, said the legislation he sponsored was as "an avenue of last resort" for patients suffering from nausea, chronic pain, wasting syndrome, seizures and other ailments.
"This is not the legalization of marijuana for recreational use," said Scuteri, a lawyer and municipal prosecutor. "We're not talking about thrill seekers and drug addicts here."
Under the proposed measure, patients would have to be diagnosed by their physicians as having a debilitating medical condition. The patient would then obtain a photo registry card issued by the state Department of Health and Senior Services so they could obtain marijuana from an alterative medicine center without fear of arrest or prosecution.
Supporters of the bill, including Sen. Bill Baroni, R-Mercer, offered passionate testimony about suffering patients, including a 37-year-old father of three young children plagued by multiple sclerosis who found relief from medical marijuana, not oxycotin, sleeping aids or other prescription painkillers.
State Sen. Gerald Cardinale, R-Cresskill, was among several Republicans who opposed the bill, claiming it was written too broadly. Cardinale said he didn't object to the concept, but said that "a very small percentage" of users in states that allow medical marijuana are patients the law is intended to aid.
Cardinale cited an analysis of medical marijuana patient records reviewed by the San Diego County District Attorney, which revealed that less than three percent of patients were suffering from AIDS, glaucoma or cancer. Additionally, more than half of those permitted to use medical marijuana were under age 30 and research indicates the substance is harmful..
"Moderate use of marijuana causes brain cells to die," Cardinale said. "That's why the federal government made marijuana forbidden."
After the vote today, State Sen. Loretta Weinberg, a co-sponsor of the legislation, said she supported it because it could give relief to chronically ill patients who were not benefiting from pain-relief prescriptions.
Weinberg noted that this weekend was the 10th anniversary of her husband's death following a long illness. Hospice nurses provided morphine, but her husband wasn't able to remain conscious, said Weinberg, D-Teaneck.
"To get relief and still be able to communicate would have been much better," she said.
Stephen Cuspilich, 46, of Burlington County, lobbied lawmakers in support of the measure before the vote today. Using a cane and carrying a plastic bottle with more than a dozen prescription pain medications to ease suffering from Crohn's Disease, he said marijuana had alleviated severe pain in his hips and back and stopped his vomiting.
"It's a social issue, not a criminal issue," said the father of three, a union pipefitter who can no longer work due to his disability.
Opponents of the measure, including John Tomicki, executive director of the League of the American Families, vowed to fight the proposal when it is considered in the Assembly. Each member would be polled by his organization to determine their vote prior to the election, he said. "They are going to be called and asked 'yes' or 'no,'" he said.
David Evans, executive director of the Drug Free Schools Coalition, cited the lack of scientific evidence on marijuana use and noted that several law enforcement organizations and anti-drug groups -- including the National Council on Alcoholism and Drug Dependence of New Jersey -- oppose the bill.
"The majority of people who are getting it are using it for back pain, insomnia and other minor problems," Evans said. "The standards for who gets it are very loose."
However, the public typically supports legalizing marijuana for chronically ill patients, said Roseanne Scotti, director of Drug Policy Alliance New Jersey.
"It's polled as high as 86 percent in favor, Scotti said. "Everybody understands this could be me, my loved one, she said. "It's the option everybody would want."
The bill passed 22 to 16, mostly along partisan lines. Five Republicans voted for it. Two Essex County senators abstained from voting. It was unclear this afternoon when the Assembly might consider the legislation.
Posted by Nick A on 02/23/2009 @ 07:27PM PT
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O!!! btw... YES WE CANNABIS!!!
Posted by Nick A on 02/23/2009 @ 07:28PM PT
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If we could get the ass holes to give it up. Like California they just raided more coops after President Obama said back off they said they did not get that message. The law is so stupid the state supreme court said the people that grow it and provide it had to take a personal involvement to insure the patient is taken care of. Plus you cannot do it for profit. I would like to see them impose this shit on the major drug pushers. Like the ones that make Oxycontin they would have to send someone out with every prescription to make sure the patient is OK. Plus I don't think they would like the idea of no money. How stupid would that be? Hell we live with it ever damn day and its getting old.....
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/23/2009 @ 09:18PM PT
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Well Fred my friend.. here is my theory on the only way this will get over the whole DEA being vigalanties... More and more states will get medical(PS. Cali is about to just out right legalize it) and with each new state comes more Dispensaries and growers.. to the point of where they will just be completely overwhelmed and not able to do a thing about it. I mean they are gonna have to do something soon, especially with Mexico in complete control of the Drug Cartels, Youve heard the news of the general who got send down to do an inspection a few days ago, and he was found Tortured beaten and murdered in Can-Cun? Turns out it was the Chief of police.... So again. they Better act soon, before this gets even worse...
Posted by Nick A on 02/23/2009 @ 09:44PM PT
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Nick,
Your are right but I am getting older. The older I get the less I appreciate how our lawmakers make our box smaller. After 60 years of doing my part I feel I should have my freedom as promised. It COULD be such a great country without the greed that rules us..
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/24/2009 @ 08:45AM PT
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Britain faces summer of rage - police
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/feb/23/police-civil-unrest-recession
In the UK, police are preparing for a "summer of rage" as victims of the economic downturn take to the streets to demonstrate against financial institutions.Britain's most senior police officer raised the spectre of a return of the riots of the 1980s, with people who have lost their jobs, homes or savings becoming "footsoldiers" in a wave of potentially violent mass protests.
Urban Warfare Drills Linked To Coming Economic Rage
http://www.prisonplanet.com/urban-warfare-drills-linked-to-coming-economic-rage.html
Cannabis Helps Keep Fans Calm
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1013
Fans Too Relaxed for Fights
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread6056.shtml
Cannabis Helps Keep Fans Calm
http://cannabisnews.com/news/thread6051.shtmlPolice also claimed that the availability of cannabis in the Netherlands probably helped to defuse any violence. Scores of ticketless England fans gathered in coffee shops in Eindhoven, where cannabis is sold and smoked, to watch the game, greeting the defeat with mild disappointment and unusually, gentle applause. "It (cannabis) may have helped relax them," Mr Beelan added. "Even the hooligans enjoyed the party - and they told our officers. There were lots of things for fans to do and everybody had a good time."
Basketball Riots in L.A., Soccer Thugs in Europe
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/6/thread6122.shtml
Euro 2000 Soccer Violence Could Vanish in a Puff
http://www.cannabisnews.com/news/5/thread5993.shtml
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"Jailing Kids for Cash"
Amy Goodman's Weekly Column
http://www.democracynow.org/blog/category/weekly_column
Judges Caging Kids for Cash & Rehabmolestations
Alberta drug rehab centre abused us
NDP calling for youth centre investigation
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4246#4246
Arizona Sheriff Faces Civil Rights Probe, Allegations of Undermining Law Enforcement with Controversial Focus on Immigration
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/2/18/arizona_sherriff_faces_civil_rights_probe
'Insane' Sheriff... with a Tank
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4242#4242
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US Military Suicides at Record High; Report Finds
Most Deaths at Single Colorado Base Were Preventable
http://www.democracynow.org/2009/2/20/us_military_suicides_at_record_high
Many Veterans are the Enemy of the D.E.A.th War
http://www.drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=62
300000 Iraq & Afghan Vets Suffer PTSD & Depression
http://tinyurl.com/47jlc9
Israel To Soothe Trauma With Ganja
Pot Shots for Israeli Soldiers
Marijuana Eases Traumatic Memories
Pot Blocks Painful Memories, Study Says
Cannabis, the Importance of Forgetting by Michael Pollan
Pot-Like Chemical Helps Beat Fear
Drugwar Lies Linked to Schizophrenia
'Cannabis' Acts as Antidepressant
Wall Street's Chemical Warfare
http://tinyurl.com/pesticideabortionists
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/24/2009 @ 01:58AM PT
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The story SF Weekly broke on Friday is true: Assemblyman Tom Ammiano will announce legislation on Monday to legalize marijuana and earn $1 billion annually by taxing it.
Quintin Mecke, Ammiano's press secretary, confirmed to SF Weekly that the assemblyman's 10 a.m. Monday press conference regarding "new legislation related to the state's fiscal crisis" will broach the
subject of reaping untold -- and much-needed -- wealth from the state's No. 1 cash crop.
Mecke said Ammiano's proposed bill "would remove all penalties in California law on cultivation, transportation, sale, purchase, possession, or use of marijuana, natural THC, or paraphernalia for persons over the age of 21."
The bill would additionally prohibit state and local law officials from enforcing federal marijuana laws. As for Step Two -- profit -- Ammiano's bill calls for "establishing a fee on the sale of marijuana at a rate of $50 per ounce." Mecke said that woudl bring in roughly $1 billion for the state, according to estimates made by marijuana advocacy organizations.
Posted by Barbara McSpadden on 02/24/2009 @ 04:03AM PT
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Thanks Ddc this is one of your links that proves what I have been saying its all about money these people shoud be put under a jail somewhere. They are the ones that got caught our lawmakers in DC are doing the same thing except they have make it legal they call it lobbiest money so its ok.......
Amy Goodman’s New Column: “Jailing Kids for Cash” As many as 5,000 children in Pennsylvania have been found guilty, and up to 2,000 of them jailed, by two corrupt judges who received kickbacks from the builders and owners of private prison facilities that benefited. The two judges pleaded guilty in a stunning case of greed and corruption that is still unfolding. Judges Mark A. Ciavarella Jr. and Michael T. Conahan received $2.6 million in kickbacks while imprisoning children who often had no access to a lawyer. The case offers an extraordinary glimpse into the shameful private prison industry that is flourishing in the United States.
This is slavery in the year 2009 how long are we going to stand by and allow this to happer?>?
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/24/2009 @ 08:56AM PT
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Everybody taking a day off or what? I know others have mentioned the need for an ad campaign. NORML is now collecting money for this. They even have paypal so easy to throw a few bucks in to share our truth with others. Kick in some bucks ever little bit helps fight the tyranny!!!
http://www.norml.org/
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/24/2009 @ 09:56PM PT
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http://www.communitytv.org
Everyone should know about communitytv and getting their towns and cable companies to include it for the communities to participate in their own local government. Or broadcast their own shows. Ours will instruct on using the cameras and provide the studio or use your own location. Probably rules but its a 24/7 operation with 4 channels. They may have legal boundries and their own, but nothing Hemp or Medicinal has been censored. Local music opertunities. Talk shows cover most of what isn't on the main airwaves or cable. Local theater groups doing skits and daily repeats of Free Speech TV, including DN, INN, LINK TV and Liberty News. Also some may want to check out low band waves that are supposidly public airwaves. We also have a Pirate Radio station keeps popping up. Busted a few times then there it is.
Free Speech TV!
http://www.freespeechtv.org
Call Toll Free: 888-FSTV-TLK(378-8855)
Free Radio Santa Cruz :: 101.1 FM
http://www.freakradio.org
YouTube - FCC raid on pirate radio
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FR6G1ClFceA
Reclaiming the Airwaves for the Public
http://www.midtod.com/radiopirates.phtml
http://www.democracynow.org
http://www.linktv.org
http://firedoglake.com
http://www.prisonplanet.com
Ganjawarnews Template
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=590
Abbie List
http://endingcannabisprohibition.yuku.com/topic/1067
Bong Hits 4 Jesus Free Speech
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=352
Thank God for Hippies
http://drugwarrant.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=150
All politics start local. They don't come out of the box trained in civility towards Ganja. Watching an old repeat of the Berzerkley Daze with the Civil Rights movement and the Free Speech movement, then the anit-War movement reminded me of how education came before the marches and thuggery. I think education is covered and anyone not seeing, doesn't want to see. This is totally demonized for the soul sake of profit and the same greed leading Wall Street into the Ocean. At the expense of our honor in the world standings and amoung ourselves. 50,000 Bonanza wildfires of citizens flicking their bics til DC can't stand the heat.
Berkeley in the 60's
http://63.249.88.159/cablecast/public/Show.aspx?ChannelID=2&ShowID=6857
Show Detail: Link TV: Berkeley in the 60's
Propaganda Then and Now
http://www.linktv.org/video/2362
There You Go Again: Orwell Comes to America
http://www.linktv.org/programs/orwell_deceiving
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/25/2009 @ 02:23AM PT
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Home Sweet Home
Editorial As We See It: Should Pot Be Legalized?
CN Source: Santa Cruz Sentinel February 25, 2009 Santa Cruz, CA
We don't think we'd be accused of "smoking weed" to venture that Santa Cruz would solidly be in favor of the state of California legalizing marijuana.
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/25/2009 @ 11:33AM PT
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The racist and greedy made the laws almost a century ago.
They intended to jail minority's and monopolize with oil
products.
They say cannabis makes blacks uppity and think they are as good as whites.
Replacing natural hemp products with foul chemicals.
They did not care about humans enslaving blacks to chain gangs.
The major drug companies spread lies to ensure profits.
They fund the Drug Free America Foundation Inc.
But the do not want a drug free America this would end their business.
They want you to be limited in your choice to their drugs.
Their drugs are worse for you more addictive but legal.
Our leaders ignore the majority that say end the madness.
The FEDs jail people denying them a defense.
They will not allow you to tell the truth to a jury.
The FEDs have a 99% conviction rate the deck is stacked.
Your children non-violent non-aggressive kids jailed for profits.
I hear their cries in jails with the real psychos being raped and killed and warped for life.
They are released with a felons record their lives destroyed for thinking they had freedom of choice.
They make the right choice legal drugs will kill you and addict you.
Judges are caught jailing kids for kick backs from private jails.
Our lawmakers take millions every years from the legal drug pushers.
They vote to allow drug companies to synthesize THC legal cannabis called Marinol.
Grow your own chemically the same as Marinol they jail you.
The legal pushers charge $600 for a month of Marinol.
Our lawmakers say buy Marinol cannabis is bad evil and jail you.
Our lawmakers sit and look down on us and count their money.
The poor and powerless pay the price for the War on US.
Our leaders do not listen to the cries of free choice.
They only listen to money and power and jail us.
The people speak and vote to make cannabis legal.
The FEDs say no we over rule your vote we will jail you.
The supreme court says a vote by the people means nothing.
The FEDs law over rules a vote by the people say the judges.
When will this tyranny finally end.
When more of us get off our ass and fight for our rights.
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
State Rep GA MMMarch 7/4/09
http://www.trm3-801.org/
Be there fight for your rights show them who this country belongs to.....
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/25/2009 @ 08:22PM PT
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Greed and Power Corrupt, Public short term memory loss, programmed media and censored school books. Hearst was building his Castle - during the depression. Self appointed moralists with their misstresses, diamond mines and slot machines. Its not what they say, its why they say it. The end justify's the means. Words vs profit. Words caging people, bombing people or replacing organics with petro chemicals. We are what we eat and we know what we're taught, Racism Classism Corporatism... and we don't know what we aren't taught. The History and properties of Cannabis, Ganja and Hemp. Prohibition demonizing a plant in the way of alternative synthetics...
"Permit me to issue and control the money of the nation
and I care not who makes its laws."
— Mayer Amsched Rothchild,
European banker in the eighteenth century
Prohibitionist WoD Junkies * (threads)
* Anslinger-Bush-Hearst-Nixon-Hitler-Nalepka
In the 1920's and 1930's Cannabis hemp was transformed into Marijuana like Jekyll into Hyde. Newspaper owner/publisher Willian Randolph Hearst was one of the leaders in the drive to make cannibis illegal. Hearst, through his newspaper's articles, brought the word 'Marijuana' into the English language, associating it sensationally with crime and violence.
Coincidentally, Hearst owned the Hearst Paper Manufacturing Division and millions of acres of prime timber land that would have lost their value had the 'hemp decorticating machine' that had just been invented been allowed to be widely distributed. This new invention greatly simplified the hemp-to-paper process.
Another player in this bit of history is Pierre DuPont, the paint maker. DuPont held patent rights to the sulphuric- acid wood-pulp paper process. And DuPont's synthetic petrochemicals had replaced hemp seed oil and hemp cordage. (With nylon rope, Patented in 1937.)
* I.G.Farben,Dupont,Ford,Hearst,Frankenfoods,Prohibition
Professor Schuman asked him how such things could be and quotes Wheeler's reply: "We just do what the Old Man orders. One week he orders a campaign against rats. The next week he orders a campaign against dope peddlers. Pretty soon he's going to campaign against college professors. It's all the bunk but orders are orders."
William Randolph Hearst, the first of the great press lords, ruler of a $220,000,000 domain, against whom an enlightened people has at last voiced its anger and disgust. For more than a generation Hearst posed as "the friend of the people" and many believed him. The Hearst communication system reached at least 30,000,000 people--he claimed that many readers for his newspapers, and many more millions for his magazines, newsreels and radio broadcasts.
"This is but one of numerous instances of slanderous and libelous attacks upon American educators in the Hearst press. This strategy is exactly comparable to that of the Nazi press in Germany between 1920 and 1933. Mr. Hearst has evidently been taking lessons from Goring, Goebbels, Rosenberg and Hitler.
* Reefer Madness,Anslinger,Hearst,Bayer,Farben II,Demonization
"...somebody has to take governments' place,
and business seems to me to be a logical entity to do it."
- David Rockefeller
Newsweek International, Feb 1 1999
President of Chase Manhattan Bank
* Bayer, Hoechst AG, IG Farben and Nazi Germany
"Prohibition was introduced as a fraud;
it has been nursed as a fraud."
- Roger Q. Mills 1887
* The Enron, Bush, Baker, Rockefeller connection
"Yellow" Journalism
In the mid-1890s, Pulitzer (in the New York World) and Hearst (in the San Francisco Examiner and later the New York Morning Journal) transformed newspapers with sensational and scandalous news coverage, the use of drawings and the inclusion of more features such as comic strips.
The Elkhorn Manifesto
SHADOW OF THE SWASTIKA
Australian academic Alex Carey once wrote that "the twentieth century has been characterized by three developments of great political importance: the growth of democracy, the growth of corporate power, and the growth of corporate propaganda as a means of protecting corporate power against democracy."
The Ganjawar Fraud...
"Marihuana makes fiends of boys in thirty days --
Hashish goads users to bloodlust."
- William Randolph Hearst - Newspaper Tycoon (1936)
I said, my! my! my! like a spider to a fly
Jump right ahead in my web!
- Jagger
US CA: Oakland Pot Dispensary Raided, Guns Seized
Lee, Henry K. San Francisco Chronicle 25 Feb 2009
The cafe was selling marijuana to people without the required documentation...
Ve Vant to zee yer papers!
"Marihuana influences Negroes to to look at white people in the eye, step on white men's shadows and look at a white woman twice."
- William Randolph Hearst - Citizen Kane - Ganja Phobic (1936)
Note. Compassionate Use Act not the MMJ Act
HS 11362.5. (a) This section shall be known
and may be cited as the Compassionate Use Act of 1996.
* has been recommended by a physician
* person's health would benefit
* or any other illness for which marijuana provides relief.
* no physician in this state shall be punished,
* Illegal possession and cultivation of marijuana,
shall not apply to a patient, or to a patient's primary caregiver
* upon the written or oral recommendation or approval of a physician
* The department shall establish and maintain a voluntary program for the issuance of identification cards to qualified patients who satisfy the requirements of this article and voluntarily apply to the identification card program.
* "Qualified patient" means a person who is entitled to the protections of Section 11362.5, but who does not have an identification card issued pursuant to this article.
"Users of marijuana become STIMULATED as they inhale the drug and are LIKELY TO DO ANYTHING. Most crimes of violence in this section, especially in country districts are laid to users of that drug."
- William Randolph Hearst - Nazi supporter (1936)
The real reason for alcohol prohibition...
"In an email to me, Clarke wrote; “I asked an historian who was working as a senior adviser to our Victorian State Government what he thought about the proposition that Prohibition was enacted to protect the Oil Companies and at their request, from the self-sufficiency hemp gave to farmers and other drivers. The historian had worked in American Universities and said he would consult his network. Three weeks later he called me to confirm absolutely that Prohibition was to stop people making their own car fuel. He said that records showed that up to 90% of all the illegal alcohol made up to that time, was for the fueling of cars. ... This historian did not go public.”
- David Malmo Levine
US MO: Charity Yanks Free House to Vet Over Pot Bust
O'Connor, Phillip St. Louis Post-Dispatch 24 Feb 2009
In January, just two days after the couple had returned from their honeymoon, the charity took back its gift after learning that Scott West had been arrested on marijuana charges in 2007 and pleaded guilty in December to a felony of possession with intent to distribute. Last week, a judge placed West on five years probation.
"Marihuana is a short cut to the insane asylum. Smoke marihuana cigarettes for a month and what was once your brain will be nothing but a storehouse of horrid specters. Hasheesh makes a murderer who kills for the love of killing out of the mildest mannered man who ever laughed at the idea that any habit could ever get him...."
- William Randolph Hearst - Yellow Journalist (1936)
CN ON: Edu: Column: Kellogg's Dumps Dolphin Boy
"Was it marijuana, the new Mexican drug, that nerved the murderous arm of Clara Phillips when she hammered out her victim's life in Los Angeles?... THREE-FOURTHS OF THE CRIMES of violence in this country today are committed by DOPE SLAVES -- that is a matter of cold record."
- William Randolph Hearst - Corporatist (1936)
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/27/2009 @ 12:34AM PT
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"When governments fear the people there is liberty.
When the people fear the government there is tyranny."
- Thomas Jefferson
Holder Says Feds Will Stop Medical Marijuana Raids By Alex Koppelman
CN Source: Salon February 26, 2009 USA
For those of you keeping score at home, add another major policy shift by the Obama administration to the tally. Breaking with precedent set under former Presidents Bill Clinton and George W. Bush, the Department of Justice will not raid medical marijuana dispensaries allowed under certain state laws.
President Obama had promised this during the campaign, but a recent raid -- conducted before new officials were in place -- led some to question whether that promise would be kept. On Wednesday, Huffington Post's Ryan Grim reports, Attorney General Eric Holder told reporters that it would be. continued...
It's Been 65 Years by Vin Suprynowicz 2003
Why Are We Still Fighting the War on Drugs?
The “Local” Matters: Kevin A. Sabet, Ph.D. 2004
A Brief History of the Tension Between Federal Drug Laws and State and Local Policy
McCaffrey: Lies, Damned Lies, And Statistics 1998
"I am against Prohibition because it has set the cause of temperence back twenty years; because it has substituted an ineffective campaign of force for an effective campaign of education; because it has replaced comparatively uninjurious light wines and beers with the worst kind of hard liquor and bad liquor; because it has increased drinking not only among men but has extended drinking to women and even children."
-- William Randolph Hearst,
initially a supporter of Prohibition,
explaining his change of mind in 1929.
From "Drink: A Social History of America" by Andrew Barr (1999), p. 239.
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/27/2009 @ 12:45AM PT
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There is a special place in Hell reserved for the Vatican
Thursday, February 26, 2009
Oh sure, there were the Crusades, the Inquisition, the destruction of science (Galileo), silence during the Holocaust, coverup of pedophiles, and the direct responsibility for millions of deaths to AIDS due to opposing safe sex practices (particularly in third world countries).
But NO, that's not nearly enough for the Vatican. Surely there's more evil that they can promote, more people they can kill in the name of God the Pope.
Oh yes, how about drug users. Let's kill some of them, too.
You see, the United States finally, finally, finally, came to its senses and the Obama administration sent a new message through its representatives to the United Nations that at least needle exchange as a harm reduction approach would be accepted. While that was not nearly all that was needed, it was at least an opening, and even the most rabid global drug warriors agreed that needle exchange was now a sure thing to be included in the new global drug policy.
But then, guess who intercedes?
The Vatican has been accused of putting the lives of thousands at risk by attempting to influence UN drugs policy on the eve of a major international declaration.
The Vatican's objection to "harm reduction" strategies, such as needle exchange schemes, has ignited a fierce debate between the US and the EU over how drugs should be tackled.
A new UN declaration of intent is due to be signed in Vienna on 11 March. However, there are major disagreements between member countries over whether a commitment to "harm reduction" should be included in the document, which is published every 10 years.
Now the Vatican has issued a statement that claims that using drugs is "anti-life" and "so-called harm reduction leads to liberalisation of the use of drugs". The Vatican's last-minute intervention appears to have led to Italy withdrawing from the EU consensus on the issue and thrown the talks over the declaration into confusion. [Guardian, UK]
Now, just to be clear, is there any doubt as to the actual truth? No.
Seven federally funded studies during the 1990s, conducted by the Government Accountability Office (GAO), the CDC and the National Academy of Sciences among others, all reached similar conclusions that NEPs work in reducing HIV's spread among IV drug users, their partners and children, and that they do not encourage increased drug use. Furthermore, a more recent study by the World Health Organization compiled the results of over 200 such reports from around the world and came to the same conclusions. [emphasis added]
The Vatican knows this, and yet they oppose needle exchange. Dr. William Martin, Professor Emeritus of Religion and Public Policy at Rice University says:
When the science is clear, when we know that something will help save lives and choose not to do it that is not only pigheaded, it is immoral.
There is no doubt that the Vatican is immoral.
I am no stranger to spirituality. I was raised in church (my father is a minister). But religion does not own, beget, nor bestow morality. And some of the most moral people I've known are atheists.
In fact, when a group of people claim to be the holders of religious truth and use that ill-gotten power for destruction rather than for the good of the people, then they are terrorists, whether they reside in caves in Pakistan, or high in the Holy See.
Trends for legalizing cannabis
Nate Silver in his post Americans Growing Kinder to Bud brings us this pretty chart regarding polling data on marijuana legalization over the past 40 years.
2009/02/26/pot.gif
Its in Rome,
Fascist Homeland's Largest Corporation is doing Fascist things? Will blunders ever cease? I thought all the druggies fell off the flat earth? Seems the people are finding God without the Priests and tithings. Tax dodgers not paying for the poverty. Aborting babies spraying cotton with poisons not used on Hemp or Ganja. Oil wars vs Bio mass and diesel, plastic from carbohydrates same as hydrocarbon fossil fools. Starving babies and illegal food. Addiction is a sin and the dying shouldn't grin. What would the kids think of the message? This is your egg... This is your egg splattered in a frying pan...
Any Questions?
http://tinyurl.com/ONDCPope
"In every country and in every age, the priest has been hostile to liberty. He is always in alliance with the despot, abetting his abuses in return for protection to his own."
-- Thomas Jefferson, 1814
WomansWackyVengeanceUnion
"The United States is in no way founded upon the Christian religion"
-- George Washington & John Adams, in a diplomatic message to Malta.
Demonizing Religionists
"This would be the best of all possible worlds,
if there were no religion in it."
-- John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson.
Witch hunts and the war on weed 20 Jun, 2002
The persecution of "witches" was really a war on sacred plants that continues today.
Teddy Kennedy's Cannabis Brain Tumor Cure
Teddy Kennedy and The Ultimate Tragedy of Liberalism.
His Brain Tumor Is of the Type That Cannabis Might Cure.
Suppressed Research May Claim Another Drug War Victim.
Posted by Richard Cowan on 2008-05-20 16:20:00
Christian Extremism and Terrorism In History
"I do not find in orthodox Christianity one redeeming feature."
-- Thomas Jefferson
Faith-Based Rehabilitation
"The Bible is not my book,
and Christianity is not my religion.
I could never give assent to the long,
complicated statements of Christian dogma."
-- Abraham Lincoln
'Relax Your Muscles as Much as Possible'
"Ancient Temple Hashish Incense! Did Jesus Inhale?
20 million arrested for possession, inhaling or not."
- DdC
"Neither the trappings of robes, nor temples of stone, nor a fixed liturgy, nor an extensive literature or history is required to meet the test of beliefs cognizable under the Constitution as religious. So far as our law is concerned, one person's religious beliefs held for one day are presumptively entitled to the same protection as the beliefs of millions which have been shared for thousands of years."
-- Judge Jack Weinstein, New York State, 1977
Flogging Sinners.jpg
"In some districts, inhabited by Latin Americans, Filipinos, Spaniards and Negroes, half the violent crimes are attributed to marijuana craze. Dr. Lee Rice of San Antonio reports that eighty per cent of all the murders committed by Mexicans are done while the killers are drugged by marijuana."
The Christian Century (newspaper) - 1938
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/27/2009 @ 03:33AM PT
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Let us not forget to smoke the poll at CNBC spread the word!!
http://www.cnbc.com/id/28621704
Running 97% for with over 33,000 votes!!!
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 02/27/2009 @ 06:36AM PT
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Keep the Promise, President Obama
-- Stop the Medical Marijuana Raids
Signatures 5776 – 5804
To: President Barack Obama
We petition that…
One of the promises made during your historic campaign was to stop the Drug Enforcement Administration's (DEA) raids against medical marijuana clinics. But raids of this type have already been conducted twice, less than two weeks since you took office.
I am encouraged by the statement of your spokesperson, Nick Shapiro, to the Washington Times on February 4: "The president believes that federal resources should not be used to circumvent state laws, and as he continues to appoint senior leadership to fill out the ranks of the federal government, he expects them to review their policies with that in mind."
In the meanwhile, however, patients and the people serving them are suffering and being subjected to injustice. Please take action now to stop the DEA's cruel and senseless raids on medical marijuana clinics sooner rather than later.
Sincerely,
The Undersigned
Take Action!
President Obama has finally selected his "Drug Czar," Seattle Police Chief Gil Kerlikowske. It's our job to educate him about the failures of the Drug War and the need for change!
Dear Police Chief Kerlikowske,
Congratulations on your nomination to direct the Office of National Drug Control Policy.
You certainly have a big job ahead of you. 76% of Americans know that the Drug War is failing. We are looking for serious answers to our nation's drug problems, but the government has thus far refused to change course.
We are hopeful that you will be more receptive to sensible reforms than your predecessors have been. After all, it was under your watch that the city of Seattle embraced harm reduction principles, openly discussed alternatives to prohibition, protected the rights of medical marijuana patients, and made marijuana possession a lowest law enforcement priority.
Over the past several years, we've been pleased to see your police force tolerate open marijuana use at the city's Hempfest, which draws more than 300,000 people annually. By refusing to arrest these peacefully assembled citizens, you stood with the 76% of Americans who support the decriminalization of marijuana.
As you direct the nation's drug policy, we urge you to follow through on the promises that President Obama has made, including:
-Ending the racially unjust disparity in sentencing for crack and powder cocaine.
-Ending the practice of prosecuting patients in states with medical marijuana laws.
-Supporting harm reduction programs such as needle exchange.
-Shifting drug policy toward a public health approach.
Ultimately, effective drug policy should be grounded in science, public health, racial equality and human dignity. We hope that you'll be the Drug Czar who finally gets it right.
What's Step 2?
Sign the petition to find out.
http://ssdp.org/
http://www.democracyinaction.org
Posted by DdC Cannabist on 02/28/2009 @ 03:42AM PT
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the closesest thing to Recongnition for everyone who voted and sent letters and signed petitions??? here is the full article http://www.opposingviews.com/articles/opinion-why-is-medical-marijuana-finally-becoming-an-american-policy One is that over the years, despite the fear created by Bush’s outdated policy, thousands of you have stood up to policies you knew were wrong. Thousands of you educated your communities, elected officials, friends and neighbors about the medical cannabis. We all helped build a movement that generated hundreds of thousands of phone calls and emails to the White House following the raids in CA and when the Obama Administration asked for citizens to weigh in on Change.gov. Though ASA chapters, e-mail lists and coalitions WE held the Obama Administration accountable. And as a patient, I am very proud of us all.
Posted by Nick A on 02/28/2009 @ 02:00PM PT
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pardon my misspellings ;-)
Posted by Nick A on 02/28/2009 @ 02:03PM PT
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"Prohibition goes beyond the bounds of reason in that it attempts to control a man's appetite by legislation and makes a crime out of things that are not crimes.
A prohibition law strikes a blow at the very principles upon which our government was founded."
-Abraham Lincoln
When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.
-Thomas Jefferson
Posted by stephen champagne on 02/28/2009 @ 09:56PM PT
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Is Now American Policey
Is Now American Policy
Wednesday, February 25, 2009
Note: This doesn't mean that there will be no more raids on medical marijuana dispensaries at all. Certainly, the State of California could conduct a raid on a dispensary that it claimed was violating state law (and any resulting cases would likely be tried in state court where you could mention state medical marijuana law).
Also, theoretically, the State of California, believing that a dispensary was violating state law, could ask for help from the DEA, but I would imagine Holder would find that to be politically unpleasant and would ask why the state is incapable of doing it themselves.
What does seem clear from Holder's statement is that there will be no more DEA raids of dispensaries that are operating legally under state law, but not under federal law. This should also mean no more Charlie Lynch trials. I hope the judge sentencing Lynch takes that important point into account.
Brief History: Of course, individual states passed their own laws. But nationally, it was a process starting with the Harrison Act in 1914, then the Marijuana Tax Act in 1937, the Food, Drug and Cosmetic act in 1938, the Narcotics Control Act in 1956, and then the big one - the 1970 Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act, which included the Controlled Substances Act which classified drugs at the federal level. - Guither
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Will Legalizing Pot Save California from its Cash Crunch?
California state Assemblyman Tom Ammiano (D-San Francisco) has announced the introduction of legislation to tax and regulate marijuana in a manner similar to alcoholic beverages. The bill, the first of its kind ever introduced in California, would create a regulatory structure similar to that used for beer, wine, and liquor, permitting taxed sales to adults while barring sales to or possession by those under 21.
California Legislator Sees Benefit in Legalizing Pot
The Wall Street Journal: "SAN FRANCISCO
A state legislator proposed legalizing the sale of marijuana in California, saying the plan would generate more than $1 billion annually for the cash-strapped state."
Make Calvina Fay cry
Go to Taxing pot could become a political toking point...
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Marijuana Legalization - no longer a pipe dream?
From Semana.Com: Decriminalize?
A revenue and legalization lesson from FDR
Reuters News Service
"It won’t solve all of the U.S.’s problems and lord knows will cause some new ones, but the money is undeniably big enough to make a dent.
After all, it certainly helped Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who legalized alcohol in 1933 in the midst of the Depression and after more than a decade of prohibition, thus bringing a half a billion in 1933 dollars into public coffers in the form of tax revenue. By 1936, alcohol taxes were 13 percent of Federal revenue."
I said, my! my! my! like a spider to a fly
Jump right ahead in my web! - Jagger
Oakland Pot Dispensary Raided, Guns Seized
US CA: Lee, Henry K. San Francisco Chronicle 25 Feb 2009
The cafe was selling marijuana to people without the required documentation...
Ve Vant to zee yer papers!
Ex-Atlanta Cops Get Prison For Drug Raid Killing
US GA: Rankin, Bill Atlanta Journal-Constitution 23 Feb 2009
Radley deserves credit for the proper headline
Tearful Atlanta Cops Express Remorse for Shooting 92-Year-Old Kathryn Johnston, Leaving Her To Bleed to Death in Her Own Home While They Planted Drugs in Her Basement, Then Threatening an Informant So He Would Lie To Cover It All Up
Anger Spills Over at Killing of Kathryn Johnston
Reefer Madness the Burning of Rainbow farm
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A People's History of the United States
from the book by Howard Zinn
The past it just crumbled, the future just threatens;
Our life blood shut up in your chemical tanks.
And now here you come, bill of sale in your hands
And surprise in your eyes that we're lacking in thanks
For the blessings of civilization you've brought us,
The lessons you've taught us, the ruin you've wrought us --
Oh see what our trust in America's brought us.
My country 'tis of thy people you're dying.
- Buffy Sainte-Marie
The Columbus Project by Mary Mu 03/14/00
When the earth is ravaged and the animals are dying, a new tribe of people shall come unto the earth from many colors, classes, creeds, and who by their actions and deeds shall make the earth green again. They will be known as the warriors of the Rainbow.
- Old Native American Prophecy
Voices of our Ancestors by Lissa Weinman
Listening To Native American Prophecies
The Ganjawar Comes To The Rez
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The INCB dinosaur and Dare to Act
Aren't drug warriors funny?
By far the most numerous and most flagrant violations of personal liberty and individual rights are performed by governments ... The major crimes throughout history, the ones executed on the largest scale, have been committed not by individuals or bands of individuals but by governments, as a deliberate policy of those governments ...that is, by the official representatives of governments, acting in their official capacity.
--John Hospers
Boycott Kelloggs and the Olympalumpas
MMM 5.2.9 / D.C. Convergence 7.4.9
Boycott Kelloggs... morningdonut
Kellogg Reputation Takes a Hit Over Dumping Michael Phelps
Public Opinion
If Lies are Laws then War is Peace
Legalize? Oh my. I do this to relieve stress of hospice work.
US Patent 6630507 -
Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants
"We.. say that on the medical evidence available, moderate indulgence in cannabis has little ill-effect on health, and that decisions to ban or legalise cannabis should be based on other considerations."
- The Lancet,
vol 352, number 9140, November 14 1998
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Vancouver Protestors Tell Harper To Stop The Gang Violence By Ending The Drug War
Protestors demanding an end to drug prohibition caused an uproar outside Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper's roundtable discussion on gang violence in downtown Vancouver yesterday.
Conservatives Would Impose Mandatory Sentences on Drug Dealers, Grow-Ops
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Former Cop: Legalizing Drugs Will Help Fight Gang Violence
Legalize and regulate drugs, or look to Mexico for our future. That's what one 28-year veteran Vancouver Police officer is saying about the ongoing wave of gang violence in Metro Vancouver. Tony Smith says keeping drugs illegal will only lead to more murders.
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How To Fight Gang Killings
"The War on drugs fails, and is doomed to perpetual failure, because it is directed not against the root causes of drug addiction and of the international black market in drugs, but only against some drug producers, traffickers and users... the War is doomed because neither the methods of war nor the war idiom itself is appropriate to a complex social problem that calls for compassion, self-searching insight and factually researched scientific understanding."
Justice Department Will Stop Medical Marijuana Raids, Attorney General Says
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Posted by DdC Cannabist on 03/01/2009 @ 01:15PM PT
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