Ask Obama why
Published March 27, 2009 @ 08:44AM PT
Yesterday, President Obama dismissed marijuana reform with a chuckle and a quip. He failed justify his position and he failed to respect the millions of Americans who disagree with him on this point.
Please join me in asking President Obama why. The link below will take you to an online petition where you can e-mail the president and ask for a real response to a serious policy question.
E-mail Obama: Ask for a real response.
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Ben Morris
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Ben has been working at the Marijuana Policy Project for two years, managing grassroots outreach for their federal policies department. He also contributes to MPP's blog and writes newsletter articles.
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You pledged "to open up the White House to the American people." I'm one of the tens of millions of Americans who believe that cannabis should be legally regulated like alcohol. I'm also one of the tens of thousands of Americans who voted to make this subject the most popular question in your online Presidential Town Hall. I'm disappointed to learn that you believe that my voice doesn't really matter.
I understand that you may oppose this position, but that is no reason to deride this issue.
Mr. President, please tell me: "What is it that you think is so funny about the subject of marijuana law reform?"
Since 1965, police have arrested over 20 million Americans for violating marijuana laws, yet nearly 90 percent of teenagers say that pot is "very easy" or "fairly easy" to obtain. Do you find this funny?
According to your administration, there is an unprecedented level of violence occurring at the Mexico/US border -- much of which is allegedly caused by the trafficking of marijuana to the United States by drug cartels. America's stringent enforcement of pot prohibition, which artificially inflates black market pot prices and ensures that only criminal enterprises will be involved in the production and sale of this commodity, is helping to fuel this violence. Do you still believe that this subject is humorous?
Finally, two recent polls indicate that a strong majority of regional voters support ending marijuana prohibition and treating the drug's sale, use, and distribution like alcohol. A February 2009 Zogby telephone poll reported that nearly six out of ten of voters on the west coast think that cannabis should be "taxed and legally regulated like alcohol and cigarettes." A just-released California Field Poll reports similar results, finding that 58 percent of statewide votes believe that regulations for cannabis should be the same or less strict than those for alcohol.
Why do you choose to laugh at these people? Why do you choose to laugh at me?
The American public is ready and willing to engage in a serious and objective political debate regarding the merits of legalizing the use of cannabis by adults. The time for joking is over.
Please consider apologizing for your dismissive tone, and please consider treating those of us who believe that there are viable alternatives to marijuana prohibition with the respect we deserve.
Posted by brandon smith on 03/27/2009 @ 09:10AM PT
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Great post. We still have a lot of obstacles to overcome on the path to legalization.
Check out my piece on the Huffington Post, “Operation Buzzkill: Random Drug Testing for the Unemployed” at:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/warren-holstein/operation-buzzkill-random_b_179960.html
Posted by Warren H on 03/27/2009 @ 09:44AM PT
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We the people are the ones who have the power, and we aways we expect far too much of our politicians. "Why hasn't Obama changed things?", "How come they scoff at our notions Marijuana reform?" When we want change and real progress, we are quick to point many fingers at our politicians on capital hill.
We need not have these men and women make progress for us. In fact they are not the ones who ever bring about real change, It always boils down to the individuals, the technicians, the thinkers, these are the people who fix our problems, for they are the ones who truly understand the issues.
When it comes the the legalization of Cannabis we need not expect a thing from our president, we need not call our senators, and congressmen, we need not look any further for progress then our own homes, and the homes our neighbors. When everyone who uses Cannabis, as well as the people who do not use, but simply believe that prohibition doesnt work, leave the underground, and speak their minds, and organize, Prohibition will end. The vast majority of Americans not to mention World citizens believe that Cannabis shouldn't be illegal. Once these people get up off their couch's and and stand up for what they believe in, criminal regulation of Cannabis will end.
-Evan E. Livonius
Maine, USA
"Work Hard. Live Easy."
Posted by Evan Livonius on 03/27/2009 @ 09:45AM PT
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I, being a huge supporter of our leader, am very disapointed!
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/27/2009 @ 10:32AM PT
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I second that! I was VERY proud to vote for him. I even got his portrait tattooed on me!! I never once thought that I was making a mistake. But that incident yesterday put the seed of doubt in my head. That was a Washington insider reaction. That's the reaction I would expect out of ANY politician over the past 30 years. That by no means embodied the change and hope I had voted for. And he did nothing to distance himself from the disconnected Washington culture he swore up and down he was not a part of. I'm sure he has no ideological aversion to cannabis law reform, but I AM sure he is playing the game of politics. That's something he was elected NOT to do.
Posted by mikey johnson on 03/27/2009 @ 11:24AM PT
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I also vote and worked for his campaign. Mainly for my hope that he would finally end the war on drugs.
But even though our main issue has been number one on HIS open government site. All we get is a laugh and a joke about, what this has to say about the on-line community. I assume he is referring about the on-line community that raised him money and got him elected?
I do not think it is a joke, 1 every 36 seconds, non-violent young people having their lives destroyed (to reasure the racist yes most of the were people of color). For what they did the same thing did? Or perhaps they picked up one and a half ounce for him and friends. I know people that will go through that in one party! And you get caught now you are a, "A DRUG DEALER". Does not matter you were picking up a bag for a friend. Now that the facts are correct they can do what they wish with, "DRUG DEALER" because we have been brainwashed. So you go to federal court for you try not to laugh, "TRIAL". Did I mention the federal court on drugs has a 99% conviction rate. And it has nothing to do with the fact they will not allow you to defend your self (Charlie Lync). Its a perfect system put in place and given much thought. They planed to reenslave the people of color plus elemenate the competion for the big oil and timber people.
But this is 2009 we have a half black president we all love him and put our faith in him. But now he is what feels like stabbing us in the back. I did not expect much the first year but the reaction to our contrys number one problem destroyed me. A laugh and a good joke and a flat no?
The war claims
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/30/2009 @ 02:52PM PT
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Hit the wrong key?
The war claims billions every year, it creates havoc in other countries but most important it is destroying almost one million mainly young, productive non-violent poor and powerless people in jail every year....
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/30/2009 @ 03:06PM PT
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It wasn't really a flat out no either. Politicians choreograph everything they say very carefully. His words were "I don't think that it would be a good idea to grow the economy." That is far from a definitive no. Essentially that is true. Cannabis legalization alone would likely do little to really grow the economy at first. But that response leaves out marijuana regulation as part of a larger economic plan. As well as part of a reformed health care system or part of reformed criminal justice system. He left that far more open that it appears. Like I said, he was playing politics. Basically he was buying time. He left that open in a way that can easily be spin in the future as NOT against marijuana legalization. That response demonstrates we have much more to do. We have made so much progress. We shouldn't let something like the president not advocating our cause openly take the wind out of our sails.
Posted by mikey johnson on 03/31/2009 @ 08:36AM PT
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http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/larry.king.live/
Tonight, Larry King is talking about legalizing marijuana. Tune in!
Posted by Jacob "Bear" Elert on 03/27/2009 @ 11:32AM PT
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i caught this on cnn. it was the second time i've heard stephen baldwin debating against cannabis legalization. he offers up nothing besides the same tired arguement that it is a gateway drug and it will lead to a generation of lazy youth. it sickens me to listen to such born again christians preaching to me. just because your life was a complete f-ing mess dude, don't go and blame it on cannabis.
Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 03/29/2009 @ 04:54PM PT
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Yeah, I made a CNN iReport about it actually.
Posted by Jacob "Bear" Elert on 04/03/2009 @ 05:52PM PT
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I started supporting financially the Obama push even before his presidential campaign got going. Having read his books, listened to his podcasts, and heard him speak a few times i had so much hope. here’s a rational dude who is gonna focus on fixing the completely irrational parts of our government. or so I thought. Well mr Obama with all these damn troops you are lobbing at afganistan…and now this?!!!!
Your uneducated, belittling, half-assed reply to the multitude of cannabis legalization questions was appalling. Please enlighten yourself and the american people!!!
mr Obama, you owe us an explanation as to why cannabis & by association hemp were made illegal in the 1930s. why are they truly illegal today? Think about up arresting over 1 million people a year for cannabis for the next 100 years? As a human being, who has inhaled cannabis several times, do you find this not truly disheartening? that’s where the current drug war is headed unless you educate yourself and rationalize with the american people that NOW is the time to end the prohibition on cannabis and hemp.
If you do not educate yourself and have a rational conversation about the pros of national cannabis & hemp legalization quite soon then I have some sad news for you…you will not be re-elected. unless you drop Biden and pick up Ron Paul as your running mate in 2012 ;) This is not a laughing matter.
Do not succumb to the powers of big pharma, big alcohol, big tobacco, corporate prisons, and big paper. They have had their say long enough. Now it is the american peoples turn to regain their freedom of choice.
Legalize hemp and legalize cannabis! Prohibition of these plants will NEVER WORK.
Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 03/27/2009 @ 11:47AM PT
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mr Obama poorly answered merely the economic impact of legalizing cannabis. and he answered incorrectly. just checkout the prose of the california & mass legalize campaigns for some potential tax revenues. of course this would mean we could legalize hemp as well. do not underestimate the potential new economic growth created by these two wonderful plants.
mr Obama you need to address the humanistic aspect of legalizing cannabis. you need to truly argue some of its effects on humans vs everything else out there and in particular tobacco, alcohol, and pills.
how can these two plants remain illegal forever? they have been illegal for about 30% of USA’s existence. 70 freakin years! can it still be illegal 3000 years from now? how would that be possible?
we need to make this national NOW so that we can move on to important issues.
Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 03/27/2009 @ 11:51AM PT
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If you don't like to smoke marijuana thats fine, but you shouldn't keep people that enjoy smoking from the right to do so. It is a harmless crime, and could have so many benefits for the United States. It's ridiculous that you can be arrested for smoking/growing a natural herb in the privacy of your own home. President Obama I would like to know the reason that your against legalization. I mean really can you give one good reason that its okay for people to drink alcohol and use tobacco products, but you can get arrested for smoking marijuana? It makes no sense. I think that just because it's not all of the "big shots" in controls drug of choice that they simply do not care about people that want the right to smoke marijuana. That must be it you don't care about the american people.
Posted by dan green on 03/27/2009 @ 03:11PM PT
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Also, guys, I'm not going to link anymore iReports, but make sure you're keeping the battle there intelligent and thorough. We need people to be impressed with our arguments, not to look down on them because they seem unintelligent.
I'd suggest hitting up the "marijuana" and "drugs" tags and getting to work.
Posted by Jacob "Bear" Elert on 03/27/2009 @ 08:05PM PT
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What we need is a national vote by the people this would legalize cannabis and put an end to the greed behind the war...
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/28/2009 @ 07:44AM PT
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Fellow activist I feel today is a sad day. The right, greedy, big money, our lawmakers and even our leader President Obama are continuing to ignore or fight against ending our enslavement.
They contributed billions to Mexico and started the problems our brothers to the south are enduring. Now after what to me was a plan, have created mass murder in Mexico. Our lawmakers use the turmoil they created as a fear card they always like to play. They announce the problems and say we must take action spend billions more and hire more law enforcement. We must put another million Americans in jail and destroy their lives. We must continue to spend billions of our hard earned money they use to enslave us.
I am so sick of this stoner image our herb has. I am as you know an old guy 60. I retired after a 30 year career with a fortune 50 company. I am also a volunteer, joining the military in 1968. I had no interest in the war on drugs until a drug task force came to my castle and to quote Chong, "They made me feel black". They came to my house on an anonymous tip but found nothing. I should consider myself lucky I was not shot or killed. Nothing was planted in my house to insure the quota is met. This stirred my interest why would eight armed men come to my house? I went to the net and read everything I could find on the war on ourselves. The lives it destroys the money wasted the motivation behind it all, greed.
Now I fight for our freedom. Recorded on hemp paper our founders gave us this freedom. Now greed and corporate money have taken our freedoms away.
I had faith in our leader President Obama and worked hard to insure his election. But now in power he fails to make a case to cure the number one problem in our great country. Even though the people keep saying this is our number one problem over and over. I do not have room or time to state all the facts that confirm what I say is true. I have no reason to lie. I do not receive millions from corporations to insure the war continues. They so far have not printed enough money to buy my opinion. The war on US (drugs) destroys more lives and waste more money than any other single action our government chooses to support. Including the financial crisis the war to contain weapons of mass destruction or the heath care meltdown or any other issue. Not to mention it is creating a Nazi like confrontation between many Americans and authority figures.
So before you cast the first stone. All I ask is go and read history it is all recorded for you. Do not rely on the news or our lawmakers for the truth. Read why Anslinger waged the war to begin with (racism). Find out what the motivation was behind the laws that started the war (greed, hate). Do some research like who provides the money behind the Drug Free America Foundation Inc. (the ones that make their money on the legal drugs and they do not like competition). Why do our lawmakers continue to support the war even though the majority say end the war legalize, regulate and tax to help our country.
Stop enslaving almost one million Americans every year. Stop wasting 100 billion ever year take the money and provide universal health care for every American. Then if a person has a problem they can get help. Not feed them to the for profit jail system we support today. Sacrificing non-violent passive productive people at the rate of one every 36 seconds. I know the main ones to suffer as always are the poor and powerless the uneducated the ones that are naive and do not believe the truth. Or they like I was have not looked for the truth they just follow the rhetoric and lies our leaders use. To continue to ensure the rich get richer and the poor pay the price. I am tired of this and advocate a grass roots action to let the people vote. We will overrule the greed and racism and free our people of the slavery still practiced today, in the year 2009. The year we make history and return the rights taken away join me in the fight....
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/28/2009 @ 10:35AM PT
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Millions of Americans are not being represented in our great country. The billions spent on the war on us (drugs) are a total waste. I call for a national vote to end the war and restore the freedoms our founders wisely gave to us.
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/30/2009 @ 07:19AM PT
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I think that the issue, our cause, benefited from the exposure that President Obama's answer provided. I have seen a spike in news articles and television time given to the legalization issue.
I believe that we need to elevate this to a national discussion and increased media coverage is a great help.
We should understand that there are bigger issues than ours and give our President time to deal with them. I suspect he will give our issue fair consideration in a reasonable timeframe.
Thank you all for your thoughts and efforts!
Jim
Posted by Jim Shattles on 03/30/2009 @ 12:03PM PT
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exactly! we shouldn't take this as the death blow to legalization. Obama is one man. If he were to come out and say "legalize marijuana", not only would it not increase the chance of marijuana getting legalized, but it would make it much harder to get ANYTHING done, cannabis related or not. it's OUR responsibility to make this happen. he's not likely going to stand in the way if this is the direction America wants to move in. so let's make this change ourselves and screw what he says.
Posted by mikey johnson on 03/30/2009 @ 01:44PM PT
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I have been waiting for forty years! Ok I am willing to wait if only we could get some respect and truth.
As for other larger issues. The economey sucks, people are being made homless and our leaders are spending us into bankruptcy.
But what if you are seventeen you just got busted for 30 grams of weed. You go to jail and trial you get the federal manditory minumum of five years. You of course are convicted I know of no reason where you can beat the system. You go to a federal prison. You are a 112 lb. frail non-violent child you do not know how to defend yourself. You are raped and warped for five years. You get out and the local grocery chain will not hire a fellon. Your life is destroyed for doing something even our leder has admitted to doing. You ask why?
Can you come up with a worse fate bankruptcy, living with the parents for a few months even the war our solders know why they are dying. But the child that has just been destroyed still ask why?
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/30/2009 @ 03:25PM PT
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Ok here is what I know. When the war on drugs started at the beginning of the 20th century around 1.3 percent of the population were addicted to some sort of (drug) including alcohol. We have spent well over a trillion dollars fighting this war. Basically making criminals out of citizens that needed medical help. Yes they had a problem. A human problem which could of been solved by helping them not incarcerating them. Yes we are so civilixed. We are the only so called free country that puts people in jail for having a medical condition. This is insane. The only reason we have all the violence and crime around this issue is because of PROHIBITION. This has to stop. Getting back to the point do you know what percent of the population is addicted today. Around 1.3 percent. Does that make sense for us to continue to fight this war on our sick who need help and our sympaphy.
Posted by Andrew Snyder on 03/30/2009 @ 09:03PM PT
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i think its narrow to say it would be political suicide for Obama to truly address the immenent Legalization of Cannabis & Hemp. he has the opportunity to rationalize with americans about the history of cannabis and hemp prohibition. bring up dupont, wr hearst, and anslingers racist lies. show americans the numbers of arrests per year and taxpayer dollars wasted arresting & incarcerating peaceful(&would be taxpaying) human beings...not to mention killing millions of innocent plants!
CANNABIS is the buzzword right now in the media. Television shows like Weeds, entourage, and the array of Pot movies are showing the plant in a positive light. Mainstream news channels like CNBC are showing some actual factual reporting on the plants in Weed Inc. Larry King Live has had a few episodes tackling the legalize debate with ron paul and montell williams arguing the legalize side quite well...specially mr Paul! Stephen Baldwin is a tool giving the same tired ex-drug addict now born again christian line that marijuana is a gateway drug. why not get the plant out of the hands of "underground" dealers and legalize & regulate!
Please mr Obama, take us seriously because we are not going away. The time is RIGHT NOW.
Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 03/31/2009 @ 02:45AM PT
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Golden, Colorado (iReport) -- Should marijuana be legalized? Probably.
In order to make an informed decision about whether marijuana should be legalized it is helpful to know why it is illegal. The process by which it became illegal had very little to do with the harmful effects it was alleged to have on users. As a drug marijuana has no side effects that are worse for the people who use it than tobacco or alcohol. It has been alleged that smoking marijuana can cause lung cancer, just as we now know the tobacco industry knew was the case back in the 1950s. The drug is somewhat addictive with long term use, but so is alcohol. So why was marijuana targeted to be classed as a narcotic while the others were eventually legalized? The answer is money.
Back in 1937 the Dupont Corporation patented several ways to process oil and coal into plastics of various types. These patents were extremely valuable and have made Dupont billions of dollars in the intervening 70 plus years. Back in the 1930s Andrew Mellon became Secretary of the Treasury under President Herbert Hoover (the president who brought us the Great Depression). Mellon was also the largest investor in Dupont Corporation. Mellon got his future nephew-in-law appointed to head the Federal Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs. With all the key players in place, Mellon moved to outlaw marijuana because the fibers of the plant (called hemp) could be used to make most of the things the new Dupont plastics made. The problem for Dupont was that hemp made things that were stronger, lighter and most importantly, less expensive. We know today what a truly criminal act this was. Hemp is completely biodegradable and doesn't require the destruction of land (as do oil and coal production) to be grown. With our landfills full of plastics that will take thousands of years to break down, how different would things be today if hemp had remained legal?
With the help of William Randolf Hearst, the conspiracy was able to paint a picture of the terrors of marijuana use and convince the public that this evil weed must me made illegal. Hearst controlled much of the media and with his nearly Godlike power to control thought in the United States, he was able to use racism, lies and distortions to get laws passed making marijuana a narcotic, despite all medical evidence to the contrary. If you wonder why people want to keep science safe from politics, here is a golden example.
At any rate, the plastics industry working with the cotton industry continue to promote the same myths and lies about marijuana to protect their corporate profits. The real problem with legalizing marijuana is that in order to do it, we must first cut through the web of lies put out by these corporate giants to educate people about the real reasons for the initial laws that made the drug illegal.
In modern times, of course, we also have to deal with another huge corporate monolith if we want to see pot legalized. That is the U.S. prison system. Since it has become privatized, the prison system makes billions of dollars for the fat cats who own and operate the prisons. In a recent case we saw how deadly making the prisons private can be when a judge was paid off to send children to prison for extended terms by the people who made money from locking them up.
Is marijuana a dangerous narcotic like heroin (which was created after the Civil War to get veterans off morphine) -- of course not. Is marijuana a drug that has effects on the people who use it? Yes, but it is no worse than many other substances that are sold legally (by large U.S. pharmaceutical companies, the tobacco industry, the alcoholic beverage industry and the sugar industry) and it has proven medical benefits.
Should marijuana be legalized. Of course it should. Will it? Not until 'we the people' stop allowing ourselves to be manipulated by the corporate advertising monster and start making our own informed decisions
Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 03/31/2009 @ 02:53AM PT
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The truth is available on the internet all you have to do is READ!
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/31/2009 @ 10:02AM PT
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Let adult free Americans make ther own decisions!!
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/31/2009 @ 10:03AM PT
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I just sent my daily email to the white house join me takes a few minuites....
http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/
SMOKE THE VOTE!! END THE TYRANNY!! USE THE MONEY WASTED ON THE WAR ON DRUGS TO FUND UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE FOR ALL. SO OUR BROTHERS AND SISTERS CAN GET HELP IF NEEDED. QUIT THROWING THEM IN JAIL LIKE CRIMINALS THEY ARE NOT!! YOUR ARE THE CRIMINAL IF YOU SUPPORT THE WAR ON US (DRUGS) GUILTY OF SLAVERY IN 2009!!
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/31/2009 @ 10:26AM PT
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First of all, everyone can not handle marijuna the same. If you legalize it, you will have everybody walking around spaced out and not knowing what is really going on. If you choose to use it, that's on you. We don't want our children walking around out of touch with reality. And we all know what is does to you. You have people smoking it and running around eating up everything and don't have the money to pay for the food needed in their homes. Then they go out stealing from other people who work hard for what they have. Let's all stay in our right minds and move this country foward and not backwards. Leagalize brain food, not brain damage food. Come on guys, let's get it right this time. Put prayer back in schools, and our homes, then let GOD nourish your body with what it needs and not what you want it to have.
Posted by Margaret Scott on 03/31/2009 @ 03:20PM PT
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This is exactly the kind of stereotyping that needs to stop in this country. Marijuana users come in all types, not just one. Lawyers, Teachers, Business Owners, Managers, Judges, Working Class, Upper Class, Lower Class and EVERYONE else in between have all used marijuana, many of them regularly. Why do you think we currently have millions of people in favor of legalization?
Thank you for your demonstration of marginalization. I hope everyone learns from it.
Posted by David Clark on 03/31/2009 @ 03:47PM PT
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Your full of it but I respect your opinion. Now if only you guys would respect our (the majoritys) opinion and legalize regulate and tax quit putting million in jail and destroying their lives!!!!!!!!
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/31/2009 @ 04:41PM PT
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I want not part of your god and I am against prayer in school. Your god hates and wants to hurt people and penalize them because they are not like you. I pray to the wind and trees and mother earth. Now if you guys would just leave us alone and keep your hate religion to yourself..
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/31/2009 @ 04:44PM PT
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did your god not put cannabis and hemp on this earth? are you telling me its like that apple and snake choice?
your god has no place in public schools.
Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 03/31/2009 @ 07:39PM PT
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If you don't want children walking around out of touch with reality then why are you trying to force your abstract religion onto them (and us at that matter)? It is my firm belief that God created the cannabis plant. God created it through evolution and the laws of science for use by man. What God did not create is beer. Why don't you give that same derogatory speech to the people down at Miller? Stand outside your local bar or winery and tell those responsibly enjoying the beverage of their choice that "God does not approve! What of the children? You will all be stealing to feed your addiction!" Your statements make it obvious you have never known an open marijuana user, so how you can make a judgment like that is beyond me. Isn't that the very thing the Bible preaches against? Casting judgments on people where God is the only force qualified to make that judgment? That's the issue with modern Christianity, people pick and choose bits and pieces that fit with their own personal morality, discard the rest and use what's left as a bludgeon against others who may not think the same way. If you truly believe every word of the Bible then, above any personal feelings you have about cannabis, you must believe that it was created, intentionally with all it's effects, by the hand of God and placed here for use by humanity ("AND IT WAS GOOD!"). And above all else you must believe that being a mortal human you have no place casting judgments on people you have never even met. That is left solely in God's hands.
The fact is there is SOMEONE in your life that is a regular cannabis user. The vast majority of cannabis users are very good at hiding it. You know why? Because it's use is IN FACT not as debilitating as your frightening fantasies may make it out to be. You wanna talk about out of touch with reality. Living in a sheltered world steering your life according to a 2000 year old book written by men claiming to be speaking on behalf of God, imagining marijuana crazed satanic boogiemen stealing to feed their insatiable munchies, THAT'S out of touch with reality. You want us all to live like that? And you claim that's NOT moving backwards? It's your American right to believe whatever you want and say whatever you want about it. But if you think that is 21st century reality you are sadly mistaken.
Posted by mikey johnson on 03/31/2009 @ 08:27PM PT
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If you don't want children walking around out of touch with reality then why are you trying to force your abstract religion onto them (and us at that matter)? It is my firm belief that God created the cannabis plant. God created it through evolution and the laws of science for use by man. What God did not create is beer. Why don't you give that same derogatory speech to the people down at Miller? Stand outside your local bar or winery and tell those responsibly enjoying the beverage of their choice that "God does not approve! What of the children? You will all be stealing to feed your addiction!" Your statements make it obvious you have never known an open marijuana user, so how you can make a judgment like that is beyond me. Isn't that the very thing the Bible preaches against? Casting judgments on people where God is the only force qualified to make that judgment? That's the issue with modern Christianity, people pick and choose bits and pieces that fit with their own personal morality, discard the rest and use what's left as a bludgeon against others who may not think the same way. If you truly believe every word of the Bible then, above any personal feelings you have about cannabis, you must believe that it was created, intentionally with all it's effects, by the hand of God and placed here for use by humanity ("AND IT WAS GOOD!"). And above all else you must believe that being a mortal human you have no place casting judgments on people you have never even met. That is left solely in God's hands.
The fact is there is SOMEONE in your life that is a regular cannabis user. The vast majority of cannabis users are very good at hiding it. You know why? Because it's use is IN FACT not as debilitating as your frightening fantasies may make it out to be. You wanna talk about out of touch with reality. Living in a sheltered world steering your life according to a 2000 year old book written by men claiming to be speaking on behalf of God, imagining marijuana crazed satanic boogiemen stealing to feed their insatiable munchies, THAT'S out of touch with reality. You want us all to live like that? And you claim that's NOT moving backwards? It's your American right to believe whatever you want and say whatever you want about it. But if you think that is 21st century reality you are sadly mistaken.
Posted by mikey johnson on 03/31/2009 @ 08:27PM PT
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I like this Mikey guy well said. During the dark ages Christians decided to kill every one that did not follow their God. Today descendants of these people follow the same position. They want to destroy every person that will not do as they do. Well you can come get me I will never advocate destroying one million poor powerless people because they use a harmless herb for greed....
Mikey keep it up we need your support...
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 04/01/2009 @ 08:45AM PT
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First of all, everyone does not handle marijuana the same. That is why impairment testing should replace the urine drug tests If you legalize it, you will have everybody walking around spaced out and not knowing what is really going on. Supposition based on the assumption that: (A) about 1/4 of the people around you are not already active cannabis users, and (B) more people would automatically start smoking it. Both notions are easily proven false when you look up the papers written on these issues. If you choose to use it, that's on you. YES it is! That’s all I want. We don't want our children walking around out of touch with reality. The legalization effort as it is proposed would set age limits like those currently in place regarding alcohol and tobacco. I haven’t ever met a legalization proponent that would give a toddler a toke.And we all know what is does to you.Wait for the straw grasping… You have people smoking it and running around eating up everything and don't have the money to pay for the food needed in their homes. I have never met a single person EVER who prioritized so poorly that they decided to go for the baggie of grass over a supply of groceries…EVER! Here’s a thought…wouldn’t being able to grow this solve the whole dilemma?
Then they go out stealing from other people who work hard for what they have. WOW, not knowing how or rather where to begin with this hypothetical argument let me just start by saying that Cannabis is not heroine or crack and the physical addiction that feeds the need of thieving junkies is not present, and therefore not a threat. (B) Judging by the demographics of cannabis users the largest segment is middle to upper-middle income white males.
Let's all stay in our right minds and move this country foward and not backwards. I couldn’t agree more Leagalize brain food, not brain damage food. Take the time to avail yourself of the work of Dr. Roberta Hamilton, former head of the UCLA Biochemistry Department. When you are done reading that cannabis is the number one healthiest food on the planet I feel you may retract that statement.
Come on guys, let's get it right this time. PLEASE!
Put prayer back in schools, and our homes, then let GOD nourish your body with what it needs and not what you want it to have. You already have prayer in your home, however, schools are another matter entirely. In this matter I am inflexible and ardent in my belief that the institution of a official state religion would harm both the state and free religious organizations. The only other solution would be to have a prayer said before class from ALL religions, then I should imagine all class time would be taken and school over for the day…equally a ridiculous argument. On a side note, I feel that by your utilization of Christianity in an attempt to try to win the hearts and mind of these good readers away from the only responsible legal stance of regulation and legalization is as personally reprehensible as President Obama’s remark. I find it incumbent upon me to say that if you believe that Jesus was the Messiah (The Anointed One) that the anointing oil was made with about 9 lbs. of Kaneh-bosm (The Hebrew word for cannabis). The word used currently “Calamus” has a completely different Hebrew word and it therefore is a (purposefully) mistranslated word
Posted by Justin Toction on 04/06/2009 @ 03:14PM PT
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Hey Fred, you respond to Margaret by saying that you respect her opinion, then exactly 3 minutes later, you disrespect her opinion and her faith. Why is it that you guys respond to opposition with insults and disrespect? Maybe it's because you are "full of it".
Posted by Dennis G. on 05/01/2009 @ 09:12AM PT
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SMOKE THE VOTE
36806 97% IN FAVOR OF LEGAL WEED
http://www.cnbc.com/id/28621704
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 03/31/2009 @ 04:49PM PT
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Maybe this person should pertake of it. It would put them in touch with reality, because they are the one not in touch with reality. It is like anything a small amount of people abuse evrything. Should we make evrything that can harm you if you abuse it illigal NO that would make no sense at all. Help the ones who have abuse problems. JAIL is not help. The only ones who benifit from jail are the greedy privately owned prison owners. If you truely are violent and will hurt your fellow man then you need to be in jail. The only violence atributed to this are the greedy people who make money from it. The cartels, DEA, SOME Police. Any one who needs to bust down a door of a non violent citizen who chooses a product much safer than any other should not be beat up and put into jail. They are threatened with violence by our goverment. For what, Ignorance, Predujice, and forcing there lifestyle down some one else. Everybody has the right to be them selves. If you look at the timelines around the same time we started using petro oil is when the co2 levels started to rise. this is in direct corrolation with the time we started to wipe out Hemp production. Think about that one.
Posted by Andrew Snyder on 03/31/2009 @ 09:34PM PT
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mr Obama,
as someone who listened to your podcasts from the very beginning and has donated a few hundred bucks to your fledgling campaign, i feel i deserve a few minutes of your time.
I am truly sickened by Robert Gibbs answers performance today trying to smooth over your embarrassing remarks about the hot topic of cannabis legalization. this when the topic involves so many potential benefits to humanity and our one precious lives on earth truly makes me question why i convinced several to vote for you.
as a fellow university of chicago guy, it is hard for me to ignore the fact that you incorrectly surmised that legalization of cannabis wouldn't help US out financially. did you forget about all the money wasted on the DEA? or the taxpayer dollars wasted since day 1 of the war on cannabis in 1937 jailing humans who have merely consumed the flowers of a plant? not to mention these inmates would otherwise be paying the US taxes! billions of dollars. yeah you are throwing around trillions of dollars but billions are not insignificant! did you learn any economics while teaching at the UofC?
mr obama lifting the cannabis prohibition will also allow americans to get back to cultivating industrial hemp. this is truly a green job economic initiative that will surely generate jobs and cash.
mr Obama, have you truly considered the millions of humans across the globe scarred by this plants prohibition. they made an educated choice to ingest, or facilitate ingesting, a plant. yet your government would have them, (THEN WHY NOT YOU!!!) criminals for life. imprisoning is not the answer we should focus on the truly addicted. get this wonderful plant out of the hands of "shadier" dealers (big parma included) who may be pushing the man-made drugs which really may cause someone harm in a very short period of time.
Now to the point of massively de-funding these drug cartels. 60% of some of these gangs profits are generated from cannabis sales alone. and then we send south of the borders our rapidly eroding U$ and our waste of metal guns? are you fucking kidding me. How is this not a NO-BRAINER.
STORM CONGRESS either april 20th or the july 4th million marijuana march on DC this year demanding international reform. MAKE every member of congress watch the UNION. Mr Obama do you comprehend how many millions of americans are going to inhale or ingest cannabis these days? Do you? Demand that CONGRESS LEGALIZE CANNABIS & HEMP NOW.
And if you do not mr Obama, i am afraid that you will be a one termer and mr Ron Paul will be our next president as he is truly progressive.
Screw alcohol, tobacco, paper, plastic & pharma....YES WE CANNABIS!
Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 04/01/2009 @ 03:06AM PT
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I was just reading Jack Hare's web site. There is an person claiming to have a video of our Vice Presidents daughter doing cocaine. They want to sell the video for 200K.
I have always said if your study statistics it will tell you. You take any segment of the population a percentage will try drugs. The only difference is we know they do drugs but never have to pay the price. Have you ever heard of a major political figure having their children spend five years mandatory minimum in a federal prison for drugs. Statistics will dictate that they should have. But they are above the law they are protected by their powerful parents. While the poor powerless people of color pay the price for the war on drugs. If we started putting their kids in jail things would change but they will not allow this to happen they are above the law. Biden is a drug war supported as you know I am waiting to see if his daughter goes to jail for her crime with cocaine....
Cherokee Fred Husein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 04/01/2009 @ 08:17AM PT
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I have not heard from you yet what is the hold up????
http://www.trm3-801.org/
Million Marijuana March
Washington D.C. July 4th, 2009
State Rep GA
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 04/01/2009 @ 08:55AM PT
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I realize the point of this cause is to "Legalize marijuana" but it was also merged with the idea to "END THE WAR ON DRUGS".
Recently, the Ohio house passed a bill that banned salvia divinorum. Although it is probably too late to stop Ohio, we should pay close attention to moves like this in other states.
Last I checked, salvia has not been causing overwhelming health concerns for anyone, aside from a "trip" which lasts at most, 10 minutes. Of course, the politicians get scared when a few people have a negative experience with it. Make sure we band together to oppose similar efforts in the future.
We've seen what prohibition does, and we don't want to repeat the same mistakes over and over again with wars against PLANTS. The last thing we need is for pot to become legal, only for the cartels to get a nice, new drug to have control over. I can assure you that if salvia becomes BANNED, and a black market is created, there will be much larger problems!!!!! If salvia becomes banned in several states, the Federal government will try to make it a Schedule I substance and continue the same failures over and over again!
Posted by Lance C on 04/01/2009 @ 10:34AM PT
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Re-legalize it. Tax it. Regulate it.
It should never have been made illegal in the first place.
Posted by David Clark on 04/01/2009 @ 06:17PM PT
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Don't lose hope of real federal drug law reform yet! check it out:
http://blog.norml.org/2009/04/01/finally-some-change-we-can-believe-in/
Senate Bill 714, the National Criminal Justice Commission Act of 2009 seeks to establish a blue-ribbon commission to “undertake a comprehensive review of the criminal justice system. Specifically, the Commission will examine “current drug policy and its impact on incarceration, crime and violence, sentencing, and reentry programs.
Let's see Obama laugh at the inevitable findings of the commission that marijuana prohibition is fundamentally flawed.
COSPONSORS(17), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)
Sen Bingaman, Jeff [NM] - 3/30/2009
Sen Brown, Sherrod [OH] - 3/26/2009
Sen Burris, Roland [IL] - 3/26/2009
Sen Cardin, Benjamin L. [MD] - 3/26/2009
Sen Durbin, Richard [IL] - 3/26/2009
Sen Gillibrand, Kirsten E. [NY] - 3/26/2009
Sen Graham, Lindsey [SC] - 3/26/2009
Sen Hagan, Kay [NC] - 3/30/2009
Sen Kennedy, Edward M. [MA] - 3/26/2009
Sen Leahy, Patrick J. [VT] - 3/26/2009
Sen McCaskill, Claire [MO] - 3/26/2009
Sen Murray, Patty [WA] - 3/26/2009
Sen Reid, Harry [NV] - 3/26/2009
Sen Schumer, Charles E. [NY] - 3/26/2009
Sen Specter, Arlen [PA] - 3/26/2009
Sen Warner, Mark R. [VA] - 3/26/2009
Sen Wyden, Ron [OR] - 3/26/2009
We have bi-partisan support in the senate. The house is likely more open to this idea. Press your representatives on Capital Hill to support this commission.
Posted by mikey johnson on 04/01/2009 @ 10:22PM PT
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I wish in this bill they would investigate our lawmakers. I feel most Americans would be suprised how many millions our representatives receive from the major corporations. Then if you follow how they vote it all adds up. When did bribrey become legal?
CFHJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 04/02/2009 @ 09:33AM PT
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The marijuana issue is only a small part of far larger an far more dangerous problem. The problem of rampant corruption of the department of health, which has basically became a wing of the pharmaceutical lobby. As a result the nation is flooded with potentially defective or dangerous drugs and medical equipment. All the facts are not known in regards to this and there desperately needs to be an independent investigation. It is my hope that with major health care reforms the "overlord" influence of the pharmaceutical industry will finally removed from our health care system.
Posted by mikey johnson on 04/03/2009 @ 08:26PM PT
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PLEDGE TO THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA.
If you pass the legal cannabis law removing all restrictions. I pledge to move to your state and I will bring my 80K house hold income with me. I am looking for a place where freedom of choice is restored. A right granted by our fouders and taken away for pure greed....
Cherokee Fred Hussein Jesus
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 04/02/2009 @ 10:05AM PT
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comeon AB 390! well, even if you move here prematurely i have a great doc here in nor-cal who would be able to find something about your body in which cannabis would be of use.
www.potdoc.com
the cannabis dispensary model seems to work quite well. except you should only have to be 21 to get in...no doctor's note required!
if not CFHJ there is still HOPE for CHANGE in massachusettes and oregon. http://www.cannabistaxact.org/
Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 04/02/2009 @ 11:22AM PT
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i think its narrow to say it would be political suicide. he has the opportunity to rationalize with americans about the history of cannabis and hemp prohibition. bring up dupont, wr hearst, and anslingers racist lies. show americans the numbers of arrests per year and taxpayer dollars wasted arresting, incarcerating peaceful human beings.
please mr Obama, join the LEGALIZE CANNABIS & HEMP wave to help free your brothers and sisters from jail for merely consuming a plant.
CANNABIS is the buzzword right now in the media. Television shows like Weeds, entourage, and the array of Pot movies are showing the plant in a positive light. Mainstream news channels like CNBC are showing some actual factual reporting on the plants in Weed Inc. Larry King Live has had a few episodes tackling the legalize debate with ron paul and montell williams arguing the legalize side quite well. Especially mr Paul! Stephen Baldwin is a tool giving the same tired ex-drug addict now born again christian line that marijuana is a gateway drug. get the plant out of the hands of "underground" dealers and legalize & regulate!
Please mr Obama, take us seriously because we are not going away.
Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 04/02/2009 @ 11:15AM PT
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I just feel it will take some time to reverse all of the years of propaganda and lies not to mention the religious right...It would be suicide to them agreed?
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 04/02/2009 @ 03:08PM PT
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We need help in Pennsylvania also. We have a rep introducing a bill in the house in the coming weeks. So any one in PA please right your reps asap. Get the word out to your friends and any one who will listen. call your local papers and radio stations, do anything to get this out. Get the truth out there. The truth and our will can set this in motion and keep the ball rolling.
Thanks, Andy
Posted by Andrew Snyder on 04/02/2009 @ 08:33PM PT
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another medical marijuana bill...that's great news honestly, but are we gonna have to wait for all 50 states come to the proper conclusion that this plant isn't evil after all and can actually help treat quite a few ailments very effectively. its not so difficult to jump through minor hoops to obtain authorization to buy the plant so why not save the taxpayers the time and doctors bills just to prove your in pain and are comfortable with the known risks with consuming cannabis.
we need to focus here on pushing for real change and that means FULL ending of the prohibition of HEMP and Marijuana across our nation. LEGALIZE FOR EVERYONE and save us battling you in every single state. what a waist of time, energy, & dollars when we can unite right now as a nation and progress forward as a free nation.
Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 04/03/2009 @ 01:36AM PT
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http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/this_is_the_truth_on_drugs_any_questions/ couldn't help pasting this nice optimistic piece.
By David Sirota
Finally, a little honesty.
Finally, after America has frittered away billions of taxpayer dollars arming Latin American death squads, airdropping toxic herbicide on equatorial farmland and incarcerating more of its own citizens on nonviolent drug charges than any other industrialized nation, two political leaders last week tried to begin taming the most wildly out-of-control beast in the government zoo: federal narcotics policy.
It started with Secretary of State Hillary Clinton stating an embarrassingly obvious truth that politicians almost never discuss. In a speech about rising violence in Mexico, she said, “Our insatiable demand for illegal drugs fuels the drug trade,” and then added that “we have co-responsibility” for the cartel-driven carnage plaguing our southern border.
She’s right, of course. For all the Rambo-ish talk about waging a “war on drugs” that interdicts the supply of narcotics, we have not diminished demand—specifically, the demand for marijuana that cartels base their business on.
According to the Office of National Drug Control Policy, Americans spend about $9 billion a year on Mexican pot.
Add that to the roughly $36 billion worth of domestically produced weed, and cannabis has become one of the continent’s biggest cash crops. As any mob movie illustrates, mixing such “insatiable” demand for a product with statutes outlawing said product guarantees the emergence of a violent black market—in this case, one in which Mexican drug cartels reap 62 percent of their profits from U.S. marijuana sales.
That last stat, provided by the White House drug czar, is the silver lining. Every American concerned about Mexico’s security problems should be thankful that the cartels are so dependent on marijuana, and not a genuinely hazardous substance like heroin. Why? Because that means through pot legalization we can bring the marijuana trade out of the shadows and into the safety of the regulated economy, consequently eliminating the black market the cartels rely on. And here’s the best part: We can do so without fearing any more negative consequences than we already tolerate in our keg-party culture.
Though President Obama childishly laughed at a question about legalization during his recent town hall meeting, his government implicitly admits that marijuana is safer than light beer. Indeed, as federal agencies acknowledge alcohol’s key role in deadly illnesses and domestic violence, their latest anti-pot fear-mongering is an ad campaign insisting—I kid you not—that marijuana is dangerous because it makes people zone out on their couches and diminishes video gaming skills.
(This is your government on drugs: Cirrhosis and angry tank-topped lushes beating their wives are more acceptable risks than stoners sitting in their basements ineptly playing Halo ... any questions?).
Despite this idiocy, despite polls showing that most Americans support some form of legalization, and despite such legalization promising to generate billions of dollars in tax revenue, Clinton only acknowledged the uncomfortable reality about demand. That’s certainly no small step, but she did not address drug policy reform. Confronting that taboo subject was left to Sen. Jim Webb, D-Va.
Last week, this first-term lawmaker proposed creating a federal commission to examine potential changes to the prison system, including a relaxation of marijuana statutes.
Webb hails from a conservative-leaning swing state whose criminal justice laws are among the nation’s most draconian, so there’s about as much personal political upside for him in this fight as there is for Clinton—that is to say, almost none. That isn’t stopping him, though.
“The elephant in the bedroom in many discussions on the criminal justice system is the sharp increase in drug incarceration,” he said in a speech, later telling The Huffington Post that pot legalization “should be on the table.”
Finally, a little honesty—and now, maybe, some action.
Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 04/03/2009 @ 01:13AM PT
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we are getting so tired of especially you tobacco using, alcohol consumin, moral preachin, wife beatin mother f-ers out their, try some cannabis indica. you'll consume less of your own vices no doubt and be a more balanced human being because of it.
can you guys believe the scientific study these assclown prohibitionists site from the BRAINDEAD reagan era?
some evil scientists pretty much gased to death two poor monkeys. wow what a trip it must have been for them to be derprived oxygen and forced to inhale 200 freakin j's worth of cannabis all at once...they lost a few brain cells because of this O2 deprivation. tragic, may their ashes rest in peach.
"One decades-old study continues to fuel claims that cannabis use causes cerebral damage. Two unwitting rhesus monkeys were exposed to 200 times the normal human dose of THC, administered through a constant cloud of smoke. However, in a more recent study, rhesus monkeys exposed to the equivalent of five cannabis cigarettes per day for seven months (what would be termed heavy chronic use in an adult human) showed no signs of cerebral abnormalities, discrediting claims attached to the older study.[10]|
http://www.cannabismd.net/cerebral-effects/
just as today IOWA became the 3rd state to end the prohibition on Marriage equality...one by one the cookies will crumble and this ridiculous national prohibition on HEMP an CANNABIS will be made an amendment. we need an amendment NOW obama.
spend my tax payer dollars wisely and AMEND the constitution NOW mr obama. lift the prohibition on Cannabis, Hemp, & Marriage CHOICE now obama. the earth is 4 billion years old. LOOK at the trends my friend.
Posted by jeffrey C oldman on 04/03/2009 @ 09:59AM PT
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I give up I have written emails to everyone on your contact us about this problem. With not one reply at least you are consistent!!
But I know from experience you do monitor these comments so here it is.
When I started using this site you could send a message using the, "send to all friends", now it is not an option. I just sent a message to all my friends one at a time what a pain in the
ASS....
CAN YOU RESTORE THE SEND TO ALL FRIENDS OPTION IN THE DROP DOWN BOX AT SEND MESSAGE TO FRIENDS???????????
We are the ones that support your site this seems like a legitimate request. But I have heard from none of your staff that I emailed, not one!!
If you are not going to restore this useful function at least you could reply to a supporter!!!
I know I will the canned we pulled your comment but for once could you address it??
CFJ
Posted by Cherokee Fred Jesus on 04/29/2009 @ 04:27PM PT
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Obama is a really smart man that has my mind going crazy i know he's good dad to his little girls and he always wants the best for them then maybe him and his wife should sit down and really see the true out come of there future just sit back and look at all the people who go around all day long and drank there self to death and that's ok then we have people who can stop smoking this man made poison that is also killing our people at and alarm we cant keep up with and as a mother of 4 ages 12 to 2 i can't see myself telling my kids that this man made drugs that are killing us off that we as a nation decied to make legal would be something i would want them to do but if you would of ask me if would rather my child smoke weed i would with responabilty and understanding of this plant by telling our kids the truth behind this brain washing there trying to do to our kids by telling these kids weed so bad one of the worse drugs out there the most drug talked about world wide and it needs to stop we need to be telling them about the REAL MAN made that we have out there and making this plant this medication this tool we use in our lives as day to day this legal not only for the true knowledge of this plant but the finactial part of there kids world the hole we as a nation could dig out for them and then as parents we should install the real truth to there live on drugs so please sit down with your wife and talk about our kids real futuer you hand the ball in your hand so i hope as a smart man you'll use it wisely thank you for you time
BRANDY PATTERSON
Posted by brandy patterson on 05/04/2009 @ 01:56PM PT
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A "crime" that elicits chuckles and quips from the president is resulting in real human beings being put in cages.
Disgusting. Immoral. Infuriating.
Thomas Jefferson was right...
Posted by Anslinger B on 05/08/2009 @ 05:26AM PT
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So many people have been having marijuana seed on their property from weather,animals,birds and /or the misidentifying of plants on their properties resulting in police showing up and busting down their doors,cutting locks,tearing up their houses,valuables coming up missing and the list goes on.Then the police call places of employment even when charges are not filed causing loss of emplyment causing hardship,pain,ruining teir reputation by running their mouths on making the victims look like druggies even when the victims prove their innocence with 9 layer test and passing them.Then they cause more pain by harassing the victims by constantly hovering all hours over the victims and the victim's family and friend's properties with their helicopters.What a horrible waste of tax payers money just to have war on the good american people over a god created plant that was meant to grow along side all other god created plants and to be used as god intended.Let's put a stop to this nightmare !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by susan verhovec on 09/05/2009 @ 03:47PM PT
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The war on alcohol proved to be a horrible mistake and so is the war on marijuana.Lets save tax payers money and decriminalize and legalize to make it not so valuable to criminal thugs and law thugs.Let this god given plant grow along side all other plants and let it be used as god as god intended.
Posted by susan verhovec on 09/05/2009 @ 04:01PM PT
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